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2 women allegedly killed by relatives for kiss seen in online video

number 2 is wrong because gods morality can NOT be bad

So what are you left with?

Incidentally I think you misunderstand 2. In 2, God’s morality is perfect, but we as imperfect beings cannot truly know it without continuous struggle and reason (ie using the tools god bestowed upon us to strive to get closer to him). So sometimes we think God wanted us to do something, but because we are imperfect we got it wrong and acted immorally thinking that was what god wanted. So god isn’t wrong there, our interpretation of what he wants is.
 
actually it is a fact

Actually, it isn’t. And facts can be proven. Which you have not done. Which I keep trying to get you to fix.


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number 2 is wrong because gods morality can NOT be bad

There are over 3000 Gods on earth, not counting the ones long gone.

Some are good, some are evil, as evil can be.
 
There are over 3000 Gods on earth, not counting the ones long gone.

Some are good, some are evil, as evil can be.

nope most of them are nature based

abhramic is the true one
 
nope most of them are nature based

abhramic is the true one

Ok so let’s proceed on the assumption you are correct.

That the abrahamic god exists and is the one true god.

Since we know a whole lot about how the Hebrew, Christian and Islamic holy books and religions evolved (including through war, power plays and propaganda), combined with forced repression of “heretical” beliefs about individual faiths, evolution of practices and values over time and across regions and the like, how does recognition of the One True God (TM) allow us to discern anything about the morality he expects from us?


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Ok so let’s proceed on the assumption you are correct.

That the abrahamic god exists and is the one true god.

Since we know a whole lot about how the Hebrew, Christian and Islamic holy books and religions evolved (including through war, power plays and propaganda), combined with forced repression of “heretical” beliefs about individual faiths, evolution of practices and values over time and across regions and the like, how does recognition of the One True God (TM) allow us to discern anything about the morality he expects from us?


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Not to forget, the morality of the Abrahamic God, changed when it changed hands,
It seems God changes his mind an awful lot.
 
Not to forget, the morality of the Abrahamic God, changed when it changed hands,
It seems God changes his mind an awful lot.

Or he doesn’t but only one of the human interpretations is correct (unless none of them are).

We are playing in the sandbox that assumes He exists, is the One True God (TM) and has imparted perfect morality on the universe.

I’m fine playing in that space just to see how it goes. Others here actually believe we exist in this formulation of the world so trying to flesh out their asserted beliefs.

I do think their position as a broad one is not that atypical as a view of morality’s foundations and is very well respected as a school of thought. But there is a huge gap between what the school’s philosophers think and reason vs what we are seeing here so trying to help them build it out a bit.


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Ok so let’s proceed on the assumption you are correct.

That the abrahamic god exists and is the one true god.

Since we know a whole lot about how the Hebrew, Christian and Islamic holy books and religions evolved (including through war, power plays and propaganda), combined with forced repression of “heretical” beliefs about individual faiths, evolution of practices and values over time and across regions and the like, how does recognition of the One True God (TM) allow us to discern anything about the morality he expects from us?


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from the Holy Books

its all there

plus he gave you a consciouness
 
Around a thousand Pakistan women are murdered in so-called "honor killings" each year - in which the victim, normally a woman, is killed by a relative for bringing shame on the family.
Perpetrators have often walked free because of a legal loophole that allowed them to seek forgiveness for the crime from another family member.
But the government has since passed a law that mandates life imprisonment even if the attacker escapes capital punishment through a relative's pardon.
In September a Pakistani court sentenced three men to life in prison for the murder of three women filmed enjoying themselves at a wedding in 2012.

No defense for it. But you will not see it on the left wing news.
 
they are all nature based

Why do you say that.
I gave you the link.
They are not nature based, some are, but there are almost 4000 of them, and they come from all over.
 
Why do you say that.
I gave you the link.
They are not nature based, some are, but there are almost 4000 of them, and they come from all over.

NO THEY Are all nature based!
 
NO THEY Are all nature based!

How is "Thor ", nature based????


How is Vishnu, Shiva and Brahma, nature based.


How is Guanyin. Guanyin, also known as Guanyin Pusa, is Chinese “Goddess of Mercy”. ...
Jade Emperor. Jade Emperor (or Yuhuang Dadi in mandarin Chinese) is considered the highest deity ruling the universe in Chinese world.

nature based.
 
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How is "Thor ", nature based????


How is Vishnu, Shiva and Brahma, nature based.


How is Guanyin. Guanyin, also known as Guanyin Pusa, is Chinese “Goddess of Mercy”. ...
Jade Emperor. Jade Emperor (or Yuhuang Dadi in mandarin Chinese) is considered the highest deity ruling the universe in Chinese world.

nature based.

god of thunder!!
 
god of thunder!!

Due to the nature of the Germanic corpus, narratives featuring Thor are only attested in Old Norse, where Thor appears throughout Norse mythology. Norse mythology, largely recorded in Iceland from traditional material stemming from Scandinavia, provides numerous tales featuring the god. In these sources, Thor bears at least fifteen names, is the husband of the golden-haired goddess Sif, is the lover of the jötunn Járnsaxa, and is generally described as fierce eyed, red haired and red bearded.[1] With Sif, Thor fathered the goddess (and possible valkyrie) Þrúðr; with Járnsaxa, he fathered Magni; with a mother whose name is not recorded, he fathered Móði, and he is the stepfather of the god Ullr. By way of Odin, Thor has numerous brothers, including Baldr. Thor has two servants, Þjálfi and Röskva, rides in a cart or chariot pulled by two goats, Tanngrisnir and Tanngnjóstr (that he eats and resurrects), and is ascribed three dwellings (Bilskirnir, Þrúðheimr, and Þrúðvangr). Thor wields the mountain-crushing hammer, Mjölnir, wears the belt Megingjörð and the iron gloves Járngreipr, and owns the staff Gríðarvölr. Thor's exploits, including his relentless slaughter of his foes and fierce battles with the monstrous serpent Jörmungandr—and their foretold mutual deaths during the events of Ragnarök—are recorded throughout sources for Norse mythology.
 
What does it mean for a god to be nature based? Are we talking about wooden statues? God created nature. To say God is nature based sounds like one is saying they aren't real.. The one true god isn't BASED on anything. He simply is.

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What does it mean for a god to be nature based? Are we talking about wooden statues? God created nature. To say God is nature based sounds like one is saying they aren't real.. The one true god isn't BASED on anything. He simply is.

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worshipping natural elements or animals
 
Due to the nature of the Germanic corpus, narratives featuring Thor are only attested in Old Norse, where Thor appears throughout Norse mythology. Norse mythology, largely recorded in Iceland from traditional material stemming from Scandinavia, provides numerous tales featuring the god. In these sources, Thor bears at least fifteen names, is the husband of the golden-haired goddess Sif, is the lover of the jötunn Járnsaxa, and is generally described as fierce eyed, red haired and red bearded.[1] With Sif, Thor fathered the goddess (and possible valkyrie) Þrúðr; with Járnsaxa, he fathered Magni; with a mother whose name is not recorded, he fathered Móði, and he is the stepfather of the god Ullr. By way of Odin, Thor has numerous brothers, including Baldr. Thor has two servants, Þjálfi and Röskva, rides in a cart or chariot pulled by two goats, Tanngrisnir and Tanngnjóstr (that he eats and resurrects), and is ascribed three dwellings (Bilskirnir, Þrúðheimr, and Þrúðvangr). Thor wields the mountain-crushing hammer, Mjölnir, wears the belt Megingjörð and the iron gloves Járngreipr, and owns the staff Gríðarvölr. Thor's exploits, including his relentless slaughter of his foes and fierce battles with the monstrous serpent Jörmungandr—and their foretold mutual deaths during the events of Ragnarök—are recorded throughout sources for Norse mythology.

where did you copy and paste from?
 
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