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Russia-Turkey Alliance Is Beginning to Unravel in Syria

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Russia-Turkey Alliance Is Beginning to Unravel in Syria

The collapse of the “Astana format” would jeopardize the conflict settlement system in Syria that Russia has spent so much time constructing.

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Russian (foreground) and Turkish forces in Syria.

2/13/20
Will the Moscow-Ankara alliance in Syria remain intact? This is the main question following clashes this month between the Syrian and Turkish militaries in Idlib. Damascus intensified its offensive in Idlib in late December. When the latest ceasefire agreement between Moscow and Ankara collapsed about one month later, Turkey began deploying military equipment to the area to support Syrian opposition militias and to strengthen its own observation posts — some of which were now located on territory controlled by Damascus. In the past 10 days, Turkish military and civilian advisors there have come under fire by Syrian artillery at least twice and casualties have been reported. In retaliation, Turkey has hit Syrian positions, leading to at least 10 times as many casualties among pro-Assad forces. Ankara has unequivocally blamed Damascus for the escalation, though in early February, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan lay part of the blame on Russia for the first time — for giving free reign to Bashar al-Assad. Erdogan has also leveled accusations at Iran, thereby threatening to undermine the so-called “Astana format” that includes the three countries. Until only recently, Ankara had repeatedly stated its desire to maintain that trilateral relationship. Ankara has since essentially issued an ultimatum demanding that Syrian forces return to the positions they occupied before their offensive — that is, behind the line of Turkey’s observation posts — by the end of February. Erdogan has added that if Turkish troops or anyone else is injured as a result of further actions by Damascus, Turkey would “hit the regime forces everywhere… regardless of what was decided in the Sochi agreement.”

Moscow has not yet shown any desire to make concessions. It initially tried to smooth over the situation by saying that the Turkish military had failed to warn its Russian colleagues in time about any possible troop movements. Russia later shifted the blame on terrorist groups. The collapse of the “Astana format” would jeopardize the conflict settlement system in Syria that Russia has spent so much time constructing. The cooperation between the three countries involved had successfully resulted in “on the ground” compromises over the past three years, as well as at least some progress on the humanitarian and political front. Although Ankara did carry out several military operations against Syrian Kurds that provided a limited foothold in the area, it is not yet big enough for refugees to return to. One solution would be to add part of Idlib to the territory. Indeed, prior to the recent hostilities, it seemed that Russia and Turkey would reach a new agreement concerning Idlib’s new borders. Ankara’s ultimatum, however, has thrown that into doubt.

Three brutal dictators - Assad/Putin/Erdogan - can't get along on the Syrian battlefield. Whooda thunkit?
 
Russia-Turkey Alliance Is Beginning to Unravel in Syria

The collapse of the “Astana format” would jeopardize the conflict settlement system in Syria that Russia has spent so much time constructing.

20515920-7638881-Ankara_launched_its_offensive_against_the_YPG_following_Presiden-a-3_1572723716496.jpg

Russian (foreground) and Turkish forces in Syria.



Three brutal dictators - Assad/Putin/Erdogan - can't get along on the Syrian battlefield. Whooda thunkit?

the alliance has been dead for a long time, Turkey is invading Syria, no other way to say it

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The attack on Syria has been a shame but justice won!
 
Wonder who will blink first. Honestly could see Trump sitting this fight out due to being unable to decide which dictator he likes best LOL
 
literally every war creates a humanitarian crisis

Not on this scale. 3.5 million Syrians have already fled the country with another 500,000 war refugees heading to Turkey as I write this.

Assad and Putin have destroyed all hospitals and clinics in areas not under their control.
 
Not on this scale. 3.5 million Syrians have already fled the country with another 500,000 war refugees heading to Turkey as I write this.

Assad and Putin have destroyed all hospitals and clinics in areas not under their control.

ISIS was in the area, as well as sdf, but noooo, just blame one side
 
Unless you can show us differently, IS doesn't have fighter jets and helicopters.

Civilians die by other reasons too, not just airplanes, gun fire,mortars,etc

Also, do you see the problem here?

Casualties of the Syrian Civil War - Wikipedia

On all other sides, women and men die about the same rate except for SAA civilian casualties, why? Because these "civilian" men are really soldiers for Rebels.
 
Assad and Russia’s bombing of hospitals isn’t an accident — it’s a strategy

Russia ‘bombed four hospitals in Syria in four hours’, report finds

Along with the Russian Navy engaging in sea piracy, we have Russian pilots bombing hospitals. A brave lot they aren't.

So is the US

According to SOHR, U.S.-led Coalition airstrikes have killed 14,022 people across Syria, of which: 9,170 dead were ISIL fighters, 360 Al-Nusra Front militants and other rebels, 169 government soldiers and 3,833 civilians. The air strikes occurred in the period between 23 September 2014 and 30 September 2019.

Casualties of the Syrian Civil War - Wikipedia
 
This doesnt prove anything, every side commits war "crimes"

This thread is specifically about Russian and Turkish war crimes in Syria. They have been documented by the UN.
 
This thread is specifically about Russian and Turkish war crimes in Syria. They have been documented by the UN.

ok? What is your point, literally every single side in every single war commits war crimes, they are unavoidible
 
ok? What is your point, literally every single side in every single war commits war crimes, they are unavoidible

Bombing populated cities into dust is always avoidable. Just don't do it.
 
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