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We must brace ourselves for isolation, ayatollah tells Iran

AProudLefty said:
Nope. You stated there's no problem with Judaism and Christianity.
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I never said that, and I don't wish to argue about it,

This thread is about Islam, no other religion.
 
The Iranians are not afraid of Donald Trump. Tiny offshore Cuba has been isolated for decades by the USA and the Cubans never capitulated. The Iranians can do the same.
 
Yasureoktoo said:
I never said that, and I don't wish to argue about it,

This thread is about Islam, no other religion.
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No, the thread is about Iran.

And about the pathological hatred some people have for Muslims, apparently.
 
Jean-s said:
The Iranians are not afraid of Donald Trump. Tiny offshore Cuba has been isolated for decades by the USA and the Cubans never capitulated. The Iranians can do the same.
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“Tiny offshore Cuba” has always been propped up by fellow totalitarian regimes, whether the USSR or Maduro today.
 
ecofarm said:
If he was a terrorist, how could he be murdered? Joking. I know why you chose those words, it's the Jews.

You claim he's the worst terrorist ever until he's killed by Jews. Then he's murdered.

That's really obvious.
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I didn't write the religion.

“I have been made victorious with terror". [Bukhari: 4.52.

That is a partial quote, but reading the bio you can see the sheer terror he emits to his victims.

immediately following the conquest of Khaibar, a Jewish woman prepared a dinner for Muhammad and some of his men. Unknown to the Muslims was that she had put a poison into the lamb (some say goat) that was served at dinner. Muhammad ate some of the poisoned lamb and died as a result three years later.

That is a missprint, he dies three days later.
It gets in depth in Bukhari.
He dies in ashias arms.
 
AProudLefty said:
Actually this thread isn't about Islam.
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You are right there, I was on a couple threads.
Sorry.

It got there when someone claimed he knew about Islam, the main culprit here.
 
Tigerace117 said:
“Tiny offshore Cuba” has always been propped up by fellow totalitarian regimes, whether the USSR or Maduro today.
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Good. The Russian Federation and China can prop up Iran. It is called having allies.
 
Yasureoktoo said:
I didn't write the religion.
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You sure are trying. But you're not getting my point. Let's follow your claims:

"1. Mohammad was the worst terrorist ever, the worst person ever, a monster."

"2. The Jews "murdered" him."


Do you see the problem? It looks like some Jew-hate overwhelmed some Mohammad-hate.
 
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ecofarm said:
You sure are trying. But you're not getting my point. Let's follow your claims:

"1. Mohammad was the worst terrorist ever, the worst person ever, a monster."

"2. The Jews "murdered" him."


Do you see the problem? It looks like some Jew-hate overwhelmed some Mohammad-hate.
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But apparently you are trying to make something up.
Not a good way to make a point.
I didn't write the religion.
I never claimed Muhammed was the worst terrorist ever.
I claimed he was a terrorist.

And he was poisoned by a Jewish woman.

I was not there, so I cannot make first hand claims.
all I can go by is what is written in Islamic text.
 
Yasureoktoo said:
But apparently you are trying to make something up.
I didn't write the religion.
I never claimed Muhammed was the worst terrorist ever.
I claimed he was a terrorist.

And he was poisoned by a Jewish woman.
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Do you have an explanation? Some way in which a terrorist ever is murdered and not just because it was Jews? No, you don't. You chose "murdered" because it was Jews and only because it was Jews. Any other group kills that terrorist, and you don't call it murder.

Why was it murder?
 
Jean-s said:
Good. The Russian Federation and China can prop up Iran. It is called having allies.
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Leaving out the fact that nothing about propping up a brutal tyranny like Cuba or the current Iranian regime is “good”.....the Russians no longer have the strength to do so indefinitely(and Iran is a bigger case than Cuba regardless) while the Chinese are busily trying to wipe their Muslims out
 
ecofarm said:
Do you have an explanation? Some way in which a terrorist ever is murdered and not just because it was Jews? No, you don't. You chose "murdered" because it was Jews and only because it was Jews. Any other group kills that terrorist, and you don't call it murder.
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No, I chose Murdered because someone intentionally put poison in his food.
A court today would call that premeditated murder, regardless if he was a minister or a terrorist.
 
Yasureoktoo said:
No, I chose Murdered because someone intentionally put poison in his food.
A court today would call that premeditated murder, regardless if he was a minister or a terrorist.
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A terrorist cannot be murdered because killing him is inherently just. You called it murder because it was a Jew.
 
ecofarm said:
A terrorist cannot be murdered because killing him is inherently just. You called it murder because it was a Jew.
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LOLOL

Yeah right.

Lets just say homicide then.

You are trying to use semantics for an argument, when you have none of the subject.
 
Tigerace117 said:
Leaving out the fact that nothing about propping up a brutal tyranny like Cuba or the current Iranian regime is “good”.....the Russians no longer have the strength to do so indefinitely(and Iran is a bigger case than Cuba regardless) while the Chinese are busily trying to wipe their Muslims out
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Even Donald Trump knows Russia has a nuclear arsenal that can wipe out any nation on Earth and nuclear China is currently Iran's biggest customer for oil. Iran has no worries and will still be here when Donald Trump is gone.
 
Yasureoktoo said:
LOLOL

Yeah right.

Lets just say homicide then.
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Killing a terrorist is always self defense, even in his sleep. We can say homicide, but we're not forgetting that you called it murder because it was a Jew.
 
I am too drunk right now but it seems that the defense is that the killing of Soleimani is murder, not self-defense?

Forgive me I am too drunk right now.
 
ecofarm said:
Killing a terrorist is always self defense, even in his sleep. We can say homicide, but we're not forgetting that you called it murder because it was a Jew.
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Actually we know he died of poisoning from earlier writings, it was Bukhari who said he was Murdered by a Jewish woman 300 years after the fact.
 
Yasureoktoo said:
Actually we know he died of poisoning from earlier writings, it was Bukhari who said he was Murdered by a Jewish woman 300 years after the fact.
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It was you, after calling Mohammad a terrorist, that claimed a terrorist was murdered because it was a Jew that killed him.

Does Bukhari say Mohammad is a terrorist? No, you do. That's what makes it different.

See? You can't have it both ways, no matter how much you want to hate both.
 
Jean-s said:
Even Donald Trump knows Russia has a nuclear arsenal that can wipe out any nation on Earth and nuclear China is currently Iran's biggest customer for oil. Iran has no worries and will still be here when Donald Trump is gone.
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Russia is not going to start a nuclear war to defend Iran. China is definitely not going to start a nuclear war to defend Iran. They are well aware that the United States also has a nuclear arsenal which can wipe out any nation on earth, on top of a battle hardened conventional military superior to either one’s. There’s a reason why China hasn’t tried an all out invasion of Taiwan.

The Iranian thugs cracking heads in the streets says otherwise
 
Yasureoktoo said:
You are right there, I was on a couple threads.
Sorry.

It got there when someone claimed he knew about Islam, the main culprit here.
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Actually it got there when you started fantasizing about “wiping Islam out”.
 
Evilroddy said:
I favour sending joko104 in the vanguard of the invasion of Iran and then abandoning the mission after Joko has been parachuted into the Zagros Mountains along with several other posters here as the trailblazer special forces team. Good luck brave Joko! Democrats will be the least of your problems in Western Iran, but we thank you for your service. :)

El Commandante.
Evilroddy.
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I would never have been accepted in the military for many reasons. My biological father was career Army. Every generation of my wife's family was in the American military including for the Union in the Civil War. Most are buried in military cemeteries. Some KIA. One of my adult children is a "kill team" leader, deliberately being vague and has been in direct contact engagements with the "enemy" in Iraq, Afghanistan and a couple other places. My kid has numerous combat related injuries and wounds, a fair amount of titanium internally, increasing hearing lose - mostly from explosions - and is going color blind from the equipment - and could get out on medical at any time.

I do not want my kid fighting for anyone like you. I do not like people of the view you have about our military and the people in it. The idea that they are to be defenseless targets day after week after month after year - perpetual body bags and horrific lifelong injuries and disabilities - not just for your troops but everyone - particularly the civilians in the middle of the horrors of war too - because you see them as just pawns in diplomacy, which with Iran and in the region really just means perpetual war, war profits, and still more power, budget money and more power over everyone - and within government - by YOUR beloved "intelligence agencies."

The Resolution demanding our troops and our country literally be totally defenseless against any attack by the Iranian military is so treasonous they should be tried for treason and hung - all of them.

Nor have our troops sacrificed more than most spoiled rotten, whining, consumed in self-pity and always lived sheltered lives progressive Democrats can comprehend for 2 decades for the purpose of turning over the entire Middle East - expanding onward into Africa, Eastern Europ and Indonesian to the new Great Iranian/Persian Muslim Theocratic Totalitarian Empire built on massive levels of suffering, subjugation, civil wars and death.

To say we shouldn't be there is nonsensical and pointless. We are there. We've been there for over a century. Nothing good replaces us if we "just leave." It won't be freedom, safety and democracy. Nor is that any different than saying white people should "just leave" all of the Americas - and say all homo sapiens except those with some Neanderthal dna should leave Northern Europe - and just keep going further back in time.
 
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