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We must brace ourselves for isolation, ayatollah tells Iran

Why don't you bring a Muslim to the table.
I can bump heads with any of them
and I have all the books here at home.
Whatever I can't say of the top of my head I can look up.

I asked you a question. I'll ask it again. Have you ever heard of the Constitution of Medina?
 
Tiger ace is blowing wind.
I asked him what he read about Muhammed and he is avoiding the question.

The Sirat Rasual Allah is the only bio. of Muhammed written within 200 years of his lifetime.
800 pages of fine print from before his birth to his death.
The History of Al Taburi is next, 40 volumes.

Then we have Bukhari but it is not all Muhammed and is 300 years after the fact.
Then Muslim, with the same content.

We know about Muhammeds birth, he was orphaned.
adopted into the Qusayy family.
spoke to spirits in a cave and started his religion.
Was thrown out of town
raided Meccan caravans from Yathrub,
Raised an army and conquered Mecca.
then he dehumanized the Jews, and went after them
Allah ordered him to rob and kill the Jews.
We know about his favorite torture methods, his favorite murder methods.
We know how he split the booty.
We know about many rapes,

I could go on and on for hours, and back up everything I say with Quotes from Islamic text.

I answered your question on multiple occasions.

You went “durrrrr I don’t like the answer so I’m going to ignore it Muslims bad durrrrr”

Christians committed numerous murders and rapes when they sacked Jerusalem.

Christians literally tortured Jews into hiding for centuries in Iberia.

Christians depopulated huge chunks of Germany during the Thirty Years War.

Christians committed what could easily be considered one of the first genocides in the south of France.

Christians slaughtered their way through the Baltic States, butchering the local pagans in the name of God before getting their ass handed to them by other Christians of the “wrong” branch at Lake Peipus.

Christians were responsible for millions upon millions of deaths in the New World.
 
I favor war with Iran because we have been at war with Iran for many years in many ways including exorbitantly horrific endless proxy wars. Dragging this out continually for years will continue with the result that Iran is stronger and we become weaker in that region and in relation to Iran worldwide. When Iran obtains nuclear weapons, the destabilizing effect in that region and far beyond it will radically increase the power, growth and territorial expand across tens of millions dead or refugees of Iran.

While it sounds great to say "just get the hell out of there!" - the reality is that we are all on the same planet and the amount of time it will take to destroy any of our cities by a nuclear warheaded ballistic missile from Iran is no more than 20 minutes - and that is if they are old technology intercontinental missiles.

I favour sending joko104 in the vanguard of the invasion of Iran and then abandoning the mission after Joko has been parachuted into the Zagros Mountains along with several other posters here as the trailblazer special forces team. Good luck brave Joko! Democrats will be the least of your problems in Western Iran, but we thank you for your service. :)

El Commandante.
Evilroddy.
 
Hadith, sorry for the spelling.

what kind of Islamic documentation, book reports, or did you go to the original sources.

What did you read about Muhammed.

Shhh. Trolls about!

Cheers.
Evilroddy.
 
I asked you a question. I'll ask it again. Have you ever heard of the Constitution of Medina?

Of course I have, but we have a huge monkey wrench here.
Like most of Islam it is a complete fabrication, supposedly written by Muhammed.

Let me look up when it first showed up on the scene.
 
Iran no longer has to worry about isolation. They have millions of leftist Iran fanboys in this country to keep them company

I never really understood why Iran wasn't our ally in the ME instead of the Saudi's...especially after 9/11. If given a choice between the two evils...I'd take Iran hands down. Their youths are busting at the seams to become westernized, more secular and join the modern world. Not so much the Saudi's.
 
I answered your question on multiple occasions.

You went “durrrrr I don’t like the answer so I’m going to ignore it Muslims bad durrrrr”

Christians committed numerous murders and rapes when they sacked Jerusalem.

Christians literally tortured Jews into hiding for centuries in Iberia.

Christians depopulated huge chunks of Germany during the Thirty Years War.

Christians committed what could easily be considered one of the first genocides in the south of France.

Christians slaughtered their way through the Baltic States, butchering the local pagans in the name of God before getting their ass handed to them by other Christians of the “wrong” branch at Lake Peipus.

Christians were responsible for millions upon millions of deaths in the New World.

What you are doing is called an "Escape". something to change the subject.

You claimed you knew a lot about Islam
I asked you a direct question

What did you read about Muhammed.
I don't give a rodents rectum what the Christians did,
That is for another thread.
 
No one is doubting your knowledge of the Qur'an and the Prophet.
You don't need to browbeat people over it because they know less than you.

I am not browbeating him.

He made the claim he knows a lot about Islam.
He knows nothing about it, and I proved it
 
I asked you a question. I'll ask it again. Have you ever heard of the Constitution of Medina?

Of course I have but there is a monkey wrench it it.

It is claimed to be from Muhammed, but the first mention of it is in the sirat Rasuall Allah,
later edited by Ibn Hussin making it 185 years after the fact.
also they are speaking of the Jews, but at the time they just beheaded all the males, and took the females and children captive.
 
What you are doing is called an "Escape". something to change the subject.

You claimed you knew a lot about Islam
I asked you a direct question

What did you read about Muhammed.
I don't give a rodents rectum what the Christians did,
That is for another thread.

Oh look, more blatant hypocrisy from you.

I’ll give you a hint bud: faux outrage works better when it’s about something that everyone else hadn’t done themselves.

As I said before, I read that Muhammad was the product of his time—-a dangerous area in a chaotic period where you either learned how to fight or you became a victim.

You not being able to handle that fact does not change it.
 
Of course I have but there is a monkey wrench it it.

It is claimed to be from Muhammed, but the first mention of it is in the sirat Rasuall Allah,
later edited by Ibn Hussin making it 185 years after the fact.
also they are speaking of the Jews, but at the time they just beheaded all the males, and took the females and children captive.

Eh?...
 
Oh look, more blatant hypocrisy from you.

I’ll give you a hint bud: faux outrage works better when it’s about something that everyone else hadn’t done themselves.

As I said before, I read that Muhammad was the product of his time—-a dangerous area in a chaotic period where you either learned how to fight or you became a victim.

You not being able to handle that fact does not change it.

No you did not.

a person of his time tells nothing about him, especially when there are volumes written about him.
The entire religion is based on his exploits, his orders.
 

When Muhammed was thrown out of Mecca, he went to Yathrub, a Jewish community,
Later he turned on them, beheading 600 to 900 males and one female,
He then changed the name to Medina.
Nothing in writing survives from the time period in question, but a couple hundred years later when the religion begins to take form,
all the writings appear.
Even the "Companions of Muhammed" People who supposedly knew him, were written between the 10th and 12th century.
They even have a written genealogy from Ishmael to Muhammed.
 
It's Abrahamic. Didn't you say you knew something about Islam?

He doesn't understand that we have a problem with the three Abrahamic religions. He's focusing on Islam without understanding the problems with the other two.
 
When Muhammed was thrown out of Mecca, he went to Yathrub, a Jewish community,
Later he turned on them, beheading 600 to 900 males and one female,
He then changed the name to Medina.
Nothing in writing survives from the time period in question, but a couple hundred years later when the religion begins to take form,
all the writings appear.
Even the "Companions of Muhammed" People who supposedly knew him, were written between the 10th and 12th century.
They even have a written genealogy from Ishmael to Muhammed.

Made up stories, eh?
 
It's Abrahamic. Didn't you say you knew something about Islam?

No it is not.
Supposidly it is one of the Abrahamic religions,
Most of the Jewish and Christian characters are mentioned, but they are all Muslims, and their actions and deeds are different.
But takes a complete turn around when Muhammed takes over.
However there is much influence from the rock God religions that preceded him.
 
No you did not.

a person of his time tells nothing about him, especially when there are volumes written about him.
The entire religion is based on his exploits, his orders.

Actually, it certainly does one a lot about them, especially when one considers that he lived in Arabia.

Which was, again, a harsh environment with large groups of people who knew how to ride and use a sword competing for very limited resources.

A person from Arabia of that time period would need to be tough simply to survive.

That’s just a fact.

Likewise this was a period where there weren’t actually a lot of options as to how to make a living.

If you had to leave a major settlement you were more or less **** out of luck unless you resorted to banditry or could make it to another major settlement with whatever resources you’d scraped together.

So in actuality one can learn quite a lot from actual history instead of mindless bigotry.

But judging from your posts you aren’t a big fan of anything which requires you to engage what passes for your brain.
 
Made up stories, eh?

Total fabrication.
Most of Islam is total fabrication
even the Qur'an of today is 9th century, not the 7th.
we don't know if Muhammed existed at all.

The reason we know so little about these people is because everyone was illiterate, and nothing was written down.
We have phony stories from Jewish and Christian lore showing up as coming from God.

The genealogy is a good example
Fully documented from Ishmael to Muhmmed.
First of all, Muhammed was a nobody in the Quaresh tribe, an orphan that almost died as a child.
Tossed out of town.
Islam claims they have names of ancestors going back 3500 years.
why Muhammeds ancestors and nobody else's
What language were they written in.
What were they written on, camel bones.
Where are they now.

I can see when they tossed him out, and take your 10 tons of camel bones with you.
 
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He doesn't understand that we have a problem with the three Abrahamic religions. He's focusing on Islam without understanding the problems with the other two.

There's so much hate flowing it's too bad it cannot be used as an energy source.
 
Are you sure you're an Islam expert?

I never claimed to be an expert,
But I do know my way around the religion.
My studies are mostly 400 years prior Muhammed with the rock god religions,
Going all through his life to his death.
BTW, The Jews murdered him.
 
He doesn't understand that we have a problem with the three Abrahamic religions. He's focusing on Islam without understanding the problems with the other two.

Another fail.

This thread is about Islam, not any other religion.
 
Total fabrication.
Most of Islam is total fabrication
even the Qur'an of today is 9th century, not the 7th.

The reason we know so little about these people is because everyone was illiterate, and nothing was written down.
We have phony stories from Jewish and Christian lore showing up as coming from God.

The genealogy is a good example
Fully documented from Ishmael to Muhmmed.
First of all, Muhammed was a nobody in the Quaresh tribe, an orphan that almost died as a child.
Tossed out of town.
Islam claims they have names of ancestors going back 3500 years.
What language were they written in.
What were they written on, camel bones.

I can see when they tossed him out, and take your 10 tons of camel bones with you.

Do you even understand why we have a problem with three Abrahamic religions?
 
I never claimed to be an expert,
But I do know my way around the religion.
My studies are mostly 400 years prior Muhamm with the rock god religions,
Going all through his life to his death.
BTW, The Jews murdered him.

If he was a terrorist, how could he be murdered? Joking. I know why you chose those words, it's the Jews.

You claim he's the worst terrorist ever until he's killed by Jews. Then he's murdered.

That's really obvious.
 
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