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Israelis Don't Want to be America's Pawns in the Middle East any Longer. We've Suffered Enough

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The audacity of these people. The US and Europe have had more terrorist attacks on their respective soils than Israel has had, in the past five years. Most terror attacks against the US and Europe are at least in part driven by our undying support for Israel, even at the expense of losing life and limb. This Israeli born journalist who now lives in New York City, wants us to know that they're tired of being our pawns! Hilarious if it weren't despicable. To quote CIA terrorism chief Michael Scheuer speaking before congress,"Our relationship to Israel causes dead Americans and enormous expense in fighting Muslims"

For many Israelis, this is apparent: the language we speak and the culture we hold dear is much closer to our neighbors in Beirut than to the Protestant ethos and mores of the people of New Hampshire. And even as the horrendous conflict continues between Israelis and Palestinians, as well as an occupation, there's still a sense that our fate is dependent upon and alongside our neighbors nextdoor — not with our American allies overseas.

Israel's alignment with the US has not been since time immemorial. But aligning with the West isn't entirely Israel's fault. It's easy to categorize Israel as "colonial," but it has struggled hard to be accepted in the Middle East. Israel is one of the US's most reliable and most loyal allies and in the Middle East, US policy is seen as almost synonymous with Israel's.When protests break out in the Middle East, the Israeli flag is burned together with the American one; we are known as the “little devil”, while America is the great demon.


Besides the direct daily conflict with Palestinians and tensions with our neighbors, every time the White House gave out a "special statement" about the region, we Israelis began to brace ourselves for the unknown.


It was no surprise that this week, as tensions between Iran and the US were higher than they've ever been; as the prospect of another war that would devour the region seemed imminent; as family members from all around the world messaged each other on Whatsapp groups about World War Three, Iran threated to destroy Haifa, my birth town, as revenge against the US. Haifa is known as a place of coexistence.
The reaction in Israel to the threat of annihilation was minimal. The Israeli army announced it was closing Mount Hermon, the ski resort located in the contested Golan Heights, a site on the border with Syria that's a potential target for rocket fire by pro-Iranian militias. And many Israelis dismissed the threat, saying Iran would never attack Israel because our air force would destroy Tehran.

Israelis don't want to be America's pawns in the Middle East any longer. We've suffered enough | The Independent

‘Our relationship to Israel causes dead Americans and enormous expense in fighting Muslims’ — Scheuer to Congress – Mondoweiss
 
I would like to see the EU get more involved with Israel. Israel is he EU's baby. The Holocaust is what created the state of Israel.
 
Interesting that they think if the US stopped being their ally, the Middle East would instantly welcome them with open arms.
 
How predictable that the OP would start a thread with the usual lies already expressed in the second sentence.

And how predictable that he can barely get thru a few days without spewing his Jew-hating obsession all over the place once again.

As to anything else supposedly serving as a debate topic here on which to transport the above two desires

well.........:roll:

Quite apart from the perceivable ignorance on who Nechin (the author of the opinion piece) actually is.
 
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In the 71 years that Israel has existed, 3,743 have died from terror attacks, a little more than the number killed in one day alone, the 9/11 attacks in 2001. And if you add up all of the deaths from respiratory illnesses and cancer due to exposure to toxic elements on 9/11, then more Americans died from 9/11 than have died in Israel in 71 years due to terrorism.

Summary of terrorist attacks in Israel
 
Interesting that they think if the US stopped being their ally, the Middle East would instantly welcome them with open arms.

Americans tend to vastly overestimate the level of warmth and friendship that Israelis have for us. We're simply convenient for their needs. I'm sure there are lots of great Israelis, but from what I've heard, they're quite rude to Americans. If you visit Israel, look for Arab people to talk to. They're actually much warmer and kinder towards Americans over there than most Israelis are.
 
In the 71 years that Israel has existed, 3,743 have died from terror attacks, a little more than the number killed in one day alone, the 9/11 attacks in 2001. And if you add up all of the deaths from respiratory illnesses and cancer due to exposure to toxic elements on 9/11, then more Americans died from 9/11 than have died in Israel in 71 years due to terrorism.

Summary of terrorist attacks in Israel

Israel had zero to do with 9/11....
 
Americans tend to vastly overestimate the level of warmth and friendship that Israelis have for us. We're simply convenient for their needs. I'm sure there are lots of great Israelis, but from what I've heard, they're quite rude to Americans. If you visit Israel, look for Arab people to talk to. They're actually much warmer and kinder towards Americans over there than most Israelis are.

And you know this from experience?
 
Americans tend to vastly overestimate the level of warmth and friendship that Israelis have for us. We're simply convenient for their needs. I'm sure there are lots of great Israelis, but from what I've heard, they're quite rude to Americans. If you visit Israel, look for Arab people to talk to. They're actually much warmer and kinder towards Americans over there than most Israelis are.
What the Dickens would you know about Israel and its people?

Much like all the other countries you spout your opinionated slander upon, you've never been there and that serves as ample description of your experience with the world outside of your bubble of geographical and ideological limitation.
 
And you know this from experience?

When did you visit Israel?

I don't think it'd be wise to provide dates to you. I stand by my statement however, find an Arabic restaurant manager to strike up a conversation with.
 
You the one blathering about Israel and 9/11.

What is the relevance?

You're reading comprehension skills aren't nearly as bad as you're pretending they are now. Suffice to say, Israelis using to lament the fact that Europe and the US couldn't grasp what it was like to live with terrorism by Islamic radicals. They used to say, 'if only Americans shared in our tragedy, they would understand our enmity for Arabs.'

They certainly got their wish, didn't they?
 
You're reading comprehension skills aren't nearly as bad as you're pretending they are now. Suffice to say, Israelis using to lament the fact that Europe and the US couldn't grasp what it was like to live with terrorism by Islamic radicals. They used to say, 'if only Americans shared in our tragedy, they would understand our enmity for Arabs.'

They certainly got their wish, didn't they?

An attack such as 9/11 was the wish of Israel...


What color is the sky in your world?
 
I don't think it'd be wise to provide dates to you. I stand by my statement however, find an Arabic restaurant manager to strike up a conversation with.

In other words, never.

And why do you believe an Arab would accurately relate Israeli beliefs?

And are all Arabs working restaurants in your alternative reality?
 
I don't think it'd be wise to provide dates to you. ....................~
Seeing how you'd probably fail at telling even the color of the doors at immigration at Ben Gurion, I'd also say that's wise.
 
An attack such as 9/11 was the wish of Israel...


What color is the sky in your world?

The Israeli government and hard line Zionists absolutely welcomed 9/11. Or did you not hear Netanyahu say that 9/11 benefitted Israel?
 
In other words, never.

And why do you believe an Arab would accurately relate Israeli beliefs?

And are all Arabs working restaurants in your alternative reality?

Lmao, you've never been there. Go to a restaurant in Tel Aviv, and ask the wait staff if they're Arab or Israeli.
 
The Israeli government and hard line Zionists absolutely welcomed 9/11. Or did you not hear Netanyahu say that 9/11 benefitted Israel?

I benefited when someone blew up their truck and had to buy my extra motorcycle.

Does that mean I wished for his truck to blow up?

No. That is stupid.

Please fail again.
 
I benefited when someone blew up their truck and had to buy my extra motorcycle.

Does that mean I wished for his truck to blow up?

No. That is stupid.

Please fail again.

It wasn't only Israelis wishing for an attack on America, there were plenty of good old American Zionists who fantasized about it. They would then use the traumatic event to pursue aggressive and bloody regime changes, in order to destabilize the middle east. This is precisely what occurred, after PNAC saw many of it's members promoted to White House positions.

Written before the September 11 attacks, and during political debates of the War in Iraq, a section of Rebuilding America's Defenses entitled "Creating Tomorrow's Dominant Force" became the subject of considerable controversy: "Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor.

Signatories to Statement of PrinciplesEdit


•Elliott Abrams
•Gary Bauer
•William J. Bennett
•John Ellis "Jeb" Bush
•Dick Cheney
•Eliot A. Cohen
•Midge Decter
•Paula Dobriansky
•Steve Forbes
•Aaron Friedberg
•Francis Fukuyama
•Frank Gaffney
•Fred C. Ikle
•Donald Kagan
•Zalmay Khalilzad
•I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby
•Norman Podhoretz
•J. Danforth Quayle
•Peter W. Rodman
•Stephen P. Rosen
•Henry S. Rowen
•Donald Rumsfeld
•Vin Weber
•George Weigel
•Paul Wolfowitz



Project for the New American Century - Wikipedia
 
It wasn't only Israelis wishing for an attack on America, there were plenty of good old American Zionists who fantasized about it. They would then use the traumatic event to pursue aggressive and bloody regime changes, in order to destabilize the middle east. This is precisely what occurred, after PNAC saw many of it's members promoted to White House positions.

Written before the September 11 attacks, and during political debates of the War in Iraq, a section of Rebuilding America's Defenses entitled "Creating Tomorrow's Dominant Force" became the subject of considerable controversy: "Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor.

Signatories to Statement of PrinciplesEdit


•Elliott Abrams
•Gary Bauer
•William J. Bennett
•John Ellis "Jeb" Bush
•Dick Cheney
•Eliot A. Cohen
•Midge Decter
•Paula Dobriansky
•Steve Forbes
•Aaron Friedberg
•Francis Fukuyama
•Frank Gaffney
•Fred C. Ikle
•Donald Kagan
•Zalmay Khalilzad
•I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby
•Norman Podhoretz
•J. Danforth Quayle
•Peter W. Rodman
•Stephen P. Rosen
•Henry S. Rowen
•Donald Rumsfeld
•Vin Weber
•George Weigel
•Paul Wolfowitz



Project for the New American Century - Wikipedia

Ah the old PNAC chestnut....

I suspect you have never read the "New Pearl Harbor" statement in context....

Have you?

They are discussing a new post cold war focus fo the military. Less high tech high ticket weaponry. A shift to light forces rather than armor heavy.

Nothing in there desiring a new Pearl Harbor....
 
Interesting that they think...

Who is "they"? Do you mean the author? Does he speak for All Israelis? Do I speak for all Americans?
 
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