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    Iran's Influence in Iraq. Leaked Documents Tell Fascinating Story.

    A trove of leaked documents bring to light the extent and vigour of Iran's influence over the Iraqi State and how Iran is attempting to maintain that powerful influence. Well wiporth a read by a group of very good security and intelligence reporters.

    Leaked Intelligence Reports Expose How Iran Dominates Iraq

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    Re: Iran's Influence in Iraq. Leaked Documents Tell Fascinating Story.

    Quote Originally Posted by Evilroddy View Post
    A trove of leaked documents bring to light the extent and vigour of Iran's influence over the Iraqi State and how Iran is attempting to maintain that powerful influence. Well wiporth a read by a group of very good security and intelligence reporters.

    Leaked Intelligence Reports Expose How Iran Dominates Iraq
    Thank you for the informative article.

    Iran has long had undue influence in Iraq's Shia dominant south and central regions.

    This is where the Dawa Party flourished in Iraq despite Saddam's brutal attempts to crush it.


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    Re: Iran's Influence in Iraq. Leaked Documents Tell Fascinating Story.

    Quote Originally Posted by Evilroddy View Post
    A trove of leaked documents bring to light the extent and vigour of Iran's influence over the Iraqi State and how Iran is attempting to maintain that powerful influence. Well wiporth a read by a group of very good security and intelligence reporters.
    Leaked Intelligence Reports Expose How Iran Dominates Iraq
    Cheers and enjoy the read.
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    Another anti-invasion argument which was correct.
    A destabilized Iraq will fall under Iran's sway.
    Who'da thunk?
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Iran's Influence in Iraq. Leaked Documents Tell Fascinating Story.

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Another anti-invasion argument which was correct.
    A destabilized Iraq will fall under Iran's sway.
    Who'da thunk?
    About everyone who has been in the region for more than a week.

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    Re: Iran's Influence in Iraq. Leaked Documents Tell Fascinating Story.

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    About everyone who has been in the region for more than a week.
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    To be fair, there's a fair body of evidence which suggests that Iran set up the neocons to take out Iraq.

    Arras Karim Habib
    Some more about Habib
    More about Chalabi, Iran and the neocons
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    Re: Iran's Influence in Iraq. Leaked Documents Tell Fascinating Story.

    Quote Originally Posted by Evilroddy View Post
    A trove of leaked documents bring to light the extent and vigour of Iran's influence over the Iraqi State and how Iran is attempting to maintain that powerful influence. Well wiporth a read by a group of very good security and intelligence reporters.

    Leaked Intelligence Reports Expose How Iran Dominates Iraq

    Cheers and enjoy the read.
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    What's been really fascinating about this is how pragmatic approach Iranian intelligence took in gaining influence in Iraq; as well as their ability to infiltrate ISIS. The one good take away is the divide between the more pragmatic intelligence agency and the ideological interests of the government. As for Iranian influence in Iraq, that's coming to a head now as part of the many protests in Iraq; this leak will not help the perception of the Iraqi government once again being a puppet of another foreign power.

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    Re: Iran's Influence in Iraq. Leaked Documents Tell Fascinating Story.

    Quote Originally Posted by ElChupacabra View Post
    What's been really fascinating about this is how pragmatic approach Iranian intelligence took in gaining influence in Iraq; as well as their ability to infiltrate ISIS. The one good take away is the divide between the more pragmatic intelligence agency and the ideological interests of the government. As for Iranian influence in Iraq, that's coming to a head now as part of the many protests in Iraq; this leak will not help the perception of the Iraqi government once again being a puppet of another foreign power.
    ElCupacabra:

    You make excellent points. I have always thought that Iran would make a much better regional ally for the USA than the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. Equally theocratic but more practical and reliable in my opinion than the KSA. But the 1970's vintage petro-dollar scheme stands in the way of that happening for the foreseeable future.

    The protests and riots in Iraq have been grossly under-reported in most Western mainstream media and have been an absolute slaughter for about a month now. I agree that the writing is on the wall for the present pro-Iranian Iraqi government, but I am sure Iran will find a way to dominate any democratically chosen successor government due to the demographics of present day Iraq. Another Sunni dictatorship is about the only way to reverse Iran's influence, but we know how how dictatorships in Iraq workout.

    The above assumes that neither Israel nor America attacks Iran, which opens a can of worms which I don't want to peer into.

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    Re: Iran's Influence in Iraq. Leaked Documents Tell Fascinating Story.

    Quote Originally Posted by Evilroddy View Post
    ElCupacabra:

    You make excellent points. I have always thought that Iran would make a much better regional ally for the USA than the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. Equally theocratic but more practical and reliable in my opinion than the KSA. But the 1970's vintage petro-dollar scheme stands in the way of that happening for the foreseeable future.

    The protests and riots in Iraq have been grossly under-reported in most Western mainstream media and have been an absolute slaughter for about a month now. I agree that the writing is on the wall for the present pro-Iranian Iraqi government, but I am sure Iran will find a way to dominate any democratically chosen successor government due to the demographics of present day Iraq. Another Sunni dictatorship is about the only way to reverse Iran's influence, but we know how how dictatorships in Iraq workout.

    The above assumes that neither Israel nor America attacks Iran, which opens a can of worms which I don't want to peer into.

    Cheers.
    Evilroddy.

    The situation in Iran is pretty dire due to the sanctions the US has placed on them. US and British history in Iran has led to much of the mess we're dealing with now, and you have to question how wise it is to continually keep trying to control the country's destiny since foreign intervention has proven to worsen the situation there. The current strategy of starving the Iranians into revolution is another questionable choice, since it could lead to increasing anti-US sentiment and the introduction of some other hardline government. Listening to Pompeo state that the US is with the people of Iran makes you wonder if this administration thinks the Iranian people are idiots.

    There's no question of there being issues with the current Iranian government, and that part of the current situation is on them. However, to claim that the plight of the people is only on the Iranian government is disingenuous. It is the sanctions which are at the core of the economic crisis there, and there's no way around that. I'm sure that if there is some form of regime change, there won't be much love for the US as a result. I don't think there will be direct military action against Iran though; that would be such a massive quagmire. The US will continue it's economic siege until something happens.

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    Re: Iran's Influence in Iraq. Leaked Documents Tell Fascinating Story.

    Quote Originally Posted by Evilroddy View Post
    ElCupacabra:

    You make excellent points. I have always thought that Iran would make a much better regional ally for the USA than the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. Equally theocratic but more practical and reliable in my opinion than the KSA. But the 1970's vintage petro-dollar scheme stands in the way of that happening for the foreseeable future.

    The protests and riots in Iraq have been grossly under-reported in most Western mainstream media and have been an absolute slaughter for about a month now. I agree that the writing is on the wall for the present pro-Iranian Iraqi government, but I am sure Iran will find a way to dominate any democratically chosen successor government due to the demographics of present day Iraq. Another Sunni dictatorship is about the only way to reverse Iran's influence, but we know how how dictatorships in Iraq workout.

    The above assumes that neither Israel nor America attacks Iran, which opens a can of worms which I don't want to peer into.

    Cheers.
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    Re: Iran's Influence in Iraq. Leaked Documents Tell Fascinating Story.

    Quote Originally Posted by Evilroddy View Post
    A trove of leaked documents bring to light the extent and vigour of Iran's influence over the Iraqi State and how Iran is attempting to maintain that powerful influence. Well wiporth a read by a group of very good security and intelligence reporters.

    Leaked Intelligence Reports Expose How Iran Dominates Iraq

    Cheers and enjoy the read.
    Evilroddy.
    Given how heavy iraq's shia population is, it would be no surprise the two would work together.

    Now the recent riots in shia areas against govt's reeks of us intervention, I figured this out weeks ago reading about protesters griping about iraq govt and oppression while admitting they were from libya and tunisia, what kind of organic revolt needs people bussed in from other nations?

    Given how iranian intel functions I doubt the protestors would last long, and iran would likely regain control over shia areas, as one should note the same thing in lebanon is happening in shia areas, that overwhelmingly back iran, yet are protesting iran and filled with people who have never once in their lives lived in either nation, this smells as fishy as a riot demanding the california governor resign, only to notice the rioters came in with cars with georgia plates.
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