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ISIS ‘resurging’ in Syria

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By Ben Watson
8/8/2019

Make no mistake, the war on ISIS is far from finished, according to a new inspector general report released by the Pentagon this week. “Despite losing its territorial ‘caliphate,’ the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) solidified its insurgent capabilities in Iraq and was resurging in Syria this quarter,” begins the report (PDF), which covers April to June. So, why is ISIS resurgent in Syria? Sentence two says that is “in part because the Iraqi Security Forces (ISF) and U.S.-backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) remain unable to sustain long-term operations against ISIS militants.” And that’s because the SDF were busy training and preparing their troops for a U.S. withdrawal, and did not direct the primary thrust of their efforts at crushing what remains of ISIS in their vicinity, including, e.g., around the Middle Euphrates River Valley. In Iraq, ISIS “solidified its insurgent capabilities” because the ISF — after billions in U.S. presence, training and assistance — remains a fledgling force that today, here in mid-2019, still “often lacks the ability to maintain hold forces in cleared territory.” (Recall that this was a quiet refrain of America’s efforts at building partner capacity that we knew back in 2015.) In terms of what could lie next in Iraq, ISIS “is attempting to expand its influence over populations in the Sunni-majority provinces north and west of Baghdad, and has reorganized its leadership and established safe havens in rural Sunni-majority areas.”

By the numbers, ISIS “likely retains between 14,000 and 18,000 ‘members’ in Iraq and Syria, including up to 3,000 foreigners,” according to the report. As for the ISIS prisoners held by the SDF, they number around 10,000 — with 2,000 of them classified as foreigners. And the facilities are described as “pop-up prisons” (page five), which doesn’t instill much confidence. The recipe for SDF success against ISIS in Syria: “build trust with local communities and to develop the human-based intelligence necessary to confront ISIS resurgent cells and insurgent capabilities in Syria.” But it’s unclear, of course, how or if that will pan out. At a July cabinet meeting, President Trump said, “We have 100 percent of the caliphate, and we’re rapidly pulling out of Syria. We’ll be out of there pretty soon. And let them handle their own problems. Syria can handle their own problems—along with Iran, along with Russia, along with Iraq, along with Turkey. We’re 7,000 miles away.”

IMO, Trump made a strategic mistake in considering, and announcing, a pullout of US forces in Syria. Much like what occurred in Vietnam and is occurring now in regards to Afghanistan and the Taliban negotiations, the enemy just tends to have patience because it knows the US has publicly committed to pulling out. Rather than concentrate its forces on keeping the pressure on ISIS in Syria, the Kurds have to prepare for the Turkish invasion which has been promised by Erdogan. Recep Tayyip Erdogan seeks to accomplish three things; (1) remove the US from Syria (2) crush the hated Kurds in Syria (3) again become the benefactor of ISIS in Syria. Erdogan is no friend of the US.

Related: Lead Inspector General for Operation Inherent Resolve | Quarterly Report to the United States Congress | April 1, 2019 – June 30, 2019

Syria Kurds say Turkey-US deal may mark 'new approach'
 
It was always foolish to assume ISIS would entirely disappear, the ideology that made ISIS plausible in the first place is not going away anytime soon.

The US on the other hand seems to have plenty of ideological driven terrorism homegrown right here to deal with these days, that sadly is also not going away anytime soon.
 
IMO, Trump made a strategic mistake in considering, and announcing, a pullout of US forces in Syria. Much like what occurred in Vietnam and is occurring now in regards to Afghanistan and the Taliban negotiations, the enemy just tends to have patience because it knows the US has publicly committed to pulling out. Rather than concentrate its forces on keeping the pressure on ISIS in Syria, the Kurds have to prepare for the Turkish invasion which has been promised by Erdogan. Recep Tayyip Erdogan seeks to accomplish three things; (1) remove the US from Syria (2) crush the hated Kurds in Syria (3) again become the benefactor of ISIS in Syria. Erdogan is no friend of the US.

Related: Lead Inspector General for Operation Inherent Resolve | Quarterly Report to the United States Congress | April 1, 2019 – June 30, 2019

Syria Kurds say Turkey-US deal may mark 'new approach'

Protect the Kurds...we owe them. ISIS is Syria/Russia's problem.
 
Protect the Kurds...we owe them. ISIS is Syria/Russia's problem.

To protect the Kurds (as a nation) would require the Kurds actually having a nation. Otherwise we (along with other nations) are simply intervening in a civil war inside Syria.
 
To protect the Kurds (as a nation) would require the Kurds actually having a nation. Otherwise we (along with other nations) are simply intervening in a civil war inside Syria.

I wasn't speaking of the "Kurds (as a nation)". I was speaking of the Kurds (as a people).
 
I wasn't speaking of the "Kurds (as a nation)". I was speaking of the Kurds (as a people).

What people (foreign nationals in sovereign foreign nations, like Syria, Yemen or Iran) does the US military have an obligation to defend?
 
What people (foreign nationals in sovereign foreign nations, like Syria, Yemen or Iran) does the US military have an obligation to defend?

As I said...the Kurds.
 
It was always foolish to assume ISIS would entirely disappear, the ideology that made ISIS plausible in the first place is not going away anytime soon.

The US on the other hand seems to have plenty of ideological driven terrorism homegrown right here to deal with these days, that sadly is also not going away anytime soon.

As I stated in one of the posts when the victory over ISIS was declared, it's important to distinguish between victory over their land grabs versus defeating the ideology which fuels these kind of organizations. Whether its ISIS, Al-Nusra, Al-Qaeda it's the conditions which will continue to fuel the rise of these groups and that's something which still exists. My concern has been the wider reach of these groups given their recruitment of Western nationals.
 
As I said...the Kurds.


My guess is the Kurds are going to get the same treatment the Mujahideen got when we were on their side driving the Soviets out of Afghanistan. The Kurds have been pretty clear on what they want (their own nation), and that's not going to happen given the areas which would constitute Kurdistan. There's no way the Turks are ceding any land, and even less so the Iraqis since that would mean ceding oil rich areas.
 
My guess is the Kurds are going to get the same treatment the Mujahideen got when we were on their side driving the Soviets out of Afghanistan. The Kurds have been pretty clear on what they want (their own nation), and that's not going to happen given the areas which would constitute Kurdistan. There's no way the Turks are ceding any land, and even less so the Iraqis since that would mean ceding oil rich areas.

Unlike the Iraqi Kurds, I don't think I've seen the Syrian Kurds pushing for a formal homeland in northern Syria. The Assad's previously left them alone to self-rule.

I think they'd be satisfied with a guarantee that Erdogan won't be allowed to slaughter them and ethnically cleanse Rojava.
 
My guess is the Kurds are going to get the same treatment the Mujahideen got when we were on their side driving the Soviets out of Afghanistan. The Kurds have been pretty clear on what they want (their own nation), and that's not going to happen given the areas which would constitute Kurdistan. There's no way the Turks are ceding any land, and even less so the Iraqis since that would mean ceding oil rich areas.

Be that as it may, we owe them protection from those who would drive them out or kill them.
 
Be that as it may, we owe them protection from those who would drive them out or kill them.

That will prove to be an interesting balance given Turkey's position and their longstanding issue with the Kurds; Iraq will be interesting as well depending on what the Kurds ultimately push to accomplish. I agree with the sentiment, but that will prove to be tricky.
 
That will prove to be an interesting balance given Turkey's position and their longstanding issue with the Kurds; Iraq will be interesting as well depending on what the Kurds ultimately push to accomplish. I agree with the sentiment, but that will prove to be tricky.

I didn't say anything about the US supporting what the Kurds "ultimately push to accomplish". I said "protection". I'm referring more toward those who would commit near or total genocide.
 
I didn't say anything about the US supporting what the Kurds "ultimately push to accomplish". I said "protection". I'm referring more toward those who would commit near or total genocide.

Well that protection will likely be needed as they push for a homeland, and even as it is they'll need protection from the Turks and Syrians. It gets more complicated given the situation there and especially with Turkey have have bad blood with the Kurds.
 
Well that protection will likely be needed as they push for a homeland, and even as it is they'll need protection from the Turks and Syrians. It gets more complicated given the situation there and especially with Turkey have have bad blood with the Kurds.

Turkey has no one to blame but itself for the animosity of the Kurds.
 
Well that protection will likely be needed as they push for a homeland, and even as it is they'll need protection from the Turks and Syrians. It gets more complicated given the situation there and especially with Turkey have have bad blood with the Kurds.

Yes. And I think we owe them.
 
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