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Islamist in the Service of the American Empire

Do you agree that the American intervention in Iraq is the reason for the emergence of ISIS?

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zyzygy said:
No suppose about it.
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That's right. This stan guy is the guy that doesn't understand people are responsible for their own actions. It it been so long ID forgotten what a stupid argument he's trying to make full stop use more YouTube videos to teach him.
 
Not bloody likely.
 
stan1990 said:
And Christianity is responsible for the Crusades and Ku Klux Klan.
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The Crusades were a response and the KKK was a Dem creation not driven by Christianity, but by non-denominational hate.
 
nitroexpress said:
The Crusades were a response and the KKK was a Dem creation not driven by Christianity, but by non-denominational hate.
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The KKK was a creation of former Confederate General Nathan Bedford Forrest.
 
Rogue Valley said:
The KKK was a creation of former Confederate General Nathan Bedford Forrest.
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Although he was the first Grand Wizard, formation was a group effort.

"Historian Eric Foner observed: "In effect, the Klan was a military force serving the interests of the Democratic party, the planter class, and all those who desired restoration of white supremacy. Its purposes were political, but political in the broadest sense, for it sought to affect power relations, both public and private, throughout Southern society. It aimed to reverse the interlocking changes sweeping over the South during Reconstruction: to destroy the Republican party's infrastructure, undermine the Reconstruction state, reestablish control of the black labor force, and restore racial subordination in every aspect of Southern life. To that end they worked to curb the education, economic advancement, voting rights, and right to keep and bear arms of blacks. The Klan soon spread into nearly every Southern state, launching a reign of terror against Republican leaders both black and white".
 
By toppling Saddam who was a strong albeit brutal and murderous leader, we created a power vacuum in Iraq that allowed ISIS to take power.

But that does not make the US responsible for the crimes ISIS created. Everyone bears moral responsibility for his own actions.
 
nitroexpress said:
The Crusades were a response and the KKK was a Dem creation not driven by Christianity, but by non-denominational hate.
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You are wrong. Crusades isn't a response, for what by the way? Crusades campaign launched against Christians European and European cities like Constantinople. Crusades in the Middle East killed more Arabs Christians than Muslims.
 
Bodhisattva said:
I waited all this time for response that stupid. . .
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Your response is stupid. You and others who try to spell their dirt on my threads are employees with a mission to post-poll and twitter links. You guys are;t capable of writing one meaningful thread to express solid views that people can discuss.
 
stan1990 said:
Your response is stupid. You and others who try to spell their dirt on my threads are employees with a mission to post-poll and twitter links. You guys are;t capable of writing one meaningful thread to express solid views that people can discuss.
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You keep babbling about "Twitter links".

Why?
 
stan1990 said:
You are wrong. Crusades isn't a response, for what by the way? Crusades campaign launched against Christians European and European cities like Constantinople. Crusades in the Middle East killed more Arabs Christians than Muslims.
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The religion of peace is anything but.

 
nitroexpress said:
The religion of peace is anything but.

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Guess that goes double for Christianity then.

How exactly was sacking Constantinople, committing massacres in the south of France or rampaging through Russia and the Baltic States a “response” to Muslims?
 
Tigerace117 said:
Guess that goes double for Christianity then.

How exactly was sacking Constantinople, committing massacres in the south of France or rampaging through Russia and the Baltic States a “response” to Muslims?
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Clearly history is not your forte. Roll the video back, concentrate and realize that war is not kissy huggy -- war is hell.
 
stan1990 said:
You are ignorant of everything related to anything in life. Cats understand world politics better than you.
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All housecats are libertarians, utterly dependent upon others for their very existence but convinced that they don't anybody or anything.
 
nitroexpress said:
Clearly history is not your forte. Roll the video back, concentrate and realize that war is not kissy huggy -- war is hell.
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Funny how every two bit armchair general rolls out the same old excuse to justify atrocities. You do realize that Sherman meant that as a condemnation.....right?

Which still doesn’t change the fact that the argument that the Crusades were some kind of retaliation is full of ****. In fact, the Crusades crippled the Byzantine empire—-you know, the Christian state which was the main bulwark against Islamic expansion in the Near East?

So yes, it is pretty clear you don’t know anything about history.
 
Fledermaus said:
You misspelled liberals.
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I did? You mean you think liberals are convinced they don't need anybody for anything?
Then if that is true, why would liberals want a capable and competent government that can help people?
If we're convinced we don't need anyone or anything, government would top the list of unneeded things.

So you see, I didn't misspell anything.

Getting rid of government, drowning it in the bathtub, libertarians are all over that **** big time.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
I did? You mean you think liberals are convinced they don't need anybody for anything?
Then if that is true, why would liberals want a capable and competent government that can help people?
If we're convinced we don't need anyone or anything, government would top the list of unneeded things.

So you see, I didn't misspell anything.

Getting rid of government, drowning it in the bathtub, libertarians are all over that **** big time.
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All housecats are liberals, utterly dependent upon others for everything....

Ill play the broad brush ignorance game with you....
 
Fledermaus said:
All housecats are liberals, utterly dependent upon others for everything....

Ill play the broad brush ignorance game with you....
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You're playing with yourself. What else is new, you do that all the time anyway.
At least shut the door when you do that. Nobody wants to see it.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
You're playing with yourself. What else is new, you do that all the time anyway.
At least shut the door when you do that. Nobody wants to see it.
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What? You don't want to play the broad brush game?

You started it....

We'll skip your turn....

All crawfish are liberals, they swipe ineffectively with their claws and back away at high speed.

Your turn.
 
Tigerace117 said:
Funny how every two bit armchair general rolls out the same old excuse to justify atrocities. You do realize that Sherman meant that as a condemnation.....right?

Which still doesn’t change the fact that the argument that the Crusades were some kind of retaliation is full of ****. In fact, the Crusades crippled the Byzantine empire—-you know, the Christian state which was the main bulwark against Islamic expansion in the Near East?

So yes, it is pretty clear you don’t know anything about history.
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Last chance to redeem yourself. Crowder is wrong and you know better, is that it? You haven't posted any documentation to back yourself up, but you know better, right?

 
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