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    Re: Iran tensions

    Once again the US Government is putting Saudi/UAE and Israeli interests ahead of its own peoples' interests and will become entangled again in a pointless and unwinnable war in the greater Middle East region.

    This will drive Iran further into the sphere of both Russia and China and then one day the US public will wake up to headlines that Iranian cruise and ballistic anti-ship missiles bought from China and/or Russia have sunk an entire carrier task group and many thousands of American sailors have perished. The US will respond with massive reprisal attacks and many more Iranians will die than Americans. Then Iran will incinerate the Saudi/UAE oil fields with ballistic missiles and rocket attacks. More will die.

    Let's save a lot of lives and vast fortunes of tax-payer money by kicking President Donald Trump, Vice President Mike Pence, John Bolton, Mike Pompeo, Crown Prince MBS, Prime Minister Benjamin Netenyahu and other like-minded neo-cons and militarists out of government and into jail cells where these sociopathic menaces belong. Iran has not invaded a foreign country since the late 18th Century. The other states mentioned here, not so much.

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    Re: Iran tensions

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    I like Trump. I like that he says whats on his mind. I like that he doesn't huddle with handlers and wordsmiths before he opens his mouth. But he would make a horrible president.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Valley View Post
    The Iranians are prepared to announce tomorrow (5/8/19) that they will again begin their nuclear program.

    The Trump administration (Bolton) has announced that the US has information that Iran is planning imminent attacks on Americans or US soldiers in the region. The US aircraft carrier Abraham Lincoln is on station in the Med under high alert. The Pentagon has also sent B-52 bombers to the region.

    US SoS Mile Pompeo has canceled scheduled meetings with Angela Merkel and German government officials and has departed Germany due to an "emergency". Reporters traveling with Pompeo are under a news and location blackout.

    Trump needs a distraction from Mueller and subpoena's and it seems Iran may be that distraction.
    Mueller report, taxes leaking showing he was broke all along, Fallwell blackmail scheme coming to light, stock market crash...hell yeah Dumb Trumpers want war. It’s time to yell, “Freedom Fries!” Again.
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    Re: Iran tensions

    if this idiot is allowed to start a war, look out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    if this idiot is allowed to start a war, look out.
    We all called it.
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    John Bolton may be trying to provoke Iran into firing the first shot

    Well duh.

    Pompeo Makes Unexpected Trip To Iraq, Warns Of 'Escalating' Iranian Activity

    Now we know what was so important that caused Pompeo had to stand up Angela Merkel and jet off ... his part was to warn that the sky is falling in Iraq due to Iran.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Valley View Post
    Not really. Trump is not on rock-solid ground when it comes to Iran. None of the other P5+1 nations agree with Trump tearing up the JCPA and pushing confrontation.
    Well, I do not think any of the P5+1 nations are looking out for the United States' interest on that count, and I do not think any of those nations would care overmuch if Iran obtained a nuclear weapon. So long as they can trade with Iran they will shrug their shoulders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis Leo View Post
    Well, I do not think any of the P5+1 nations are looking out for the United States' interest on that count, and I do not think any of those nations would care overmuch if Iran obtained a nuclear weapon. So long as they can trade with Iran they will shrug their shoulders.
    The US government signed the deal in front of the entire world. No JCPA violations by Iran have been reported by the IAEA.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Valley View Post
    The US government signed the deal in front of the entire world. No JCPA violations by Iran have been reported by the IAEA.
    The only acceptable deal would have been one in which the Iranians dismantled all nuclear facilities capable of generating fissile material. A ten year suspension is not a deal. It is a decade-long kicking the can down the road in exchange for allowing Iran to integrate itself into the international trading and monetary system, expand its hegemony, and develop its weapons technology for ten years just in time to become a nuclear power. And, again, I do not think any of those nations would care overmuch if Iran obtained a nuclear weapon because they want to have trade with Iran which presents a huge economic opportunity for many. I am under no illusions about the nature of the regime or its grand strategy, which is to dominate its geopolitical region.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis Leo View Post
    The only acceptable deal would have been one in which the Iranians dismantled all nuclear facilities capable of generating fissile material. A ten year suspension is not a deal. It is a decade-long kicking the can down the road in exchange for allowing Iran to integrate itself into the international trading and monetary system, expand its hegemony, and develop its weapons technology for ten years just in time to become a nuclear power. And, again, I do not think any of those nations would care overmuch if Iran obtained a nuclear weapon because they want to have trade with Iran which presents a huge economic opportunity for many. I am under no illusions about the nature of the regime or its grand strategy, which is to dominate its geopolitical region.
    Don't misunderstand. I never liked the JCPA and felt the terms weren't rigorous enough.

    That said, the United States put its signature to this deal along with Iran, China, France, Russia, the UK and Germany. It is overseen by the IAEA which reported no Iranian violations.

    By unilaterally expunging its signature, Trump's USA is no better than Putin's Russia ... which violated numerous signed treaties with Ukraine.


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