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    Re: Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi: IS leader appears in first video in five years

    Quote Originally Posted by AmIsraelHai View Post
    Ummmm

    No.

    Creating conditions where an extremist element may flourish =/= Creating that element.

    Otherwise Israel created Hamas, Fatah and Hezbollah.
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    Re: Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi: IS leader appears in first video in five years

    Quote Originally Posted by Fledermaus View Post
    Ummmm

    No.

    Creating conditions where an extremist element may flourish =/= Creating that element.

    Otherwise Israel created Hamas, Fatah and Hezbollah.
    Because of the actions that Israel took, Hamas was created indirectly.
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    Re: Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi: IS leader appears in first video in five years

    Quote Originally Posted by AmIsraelHai View Post
    Because of the actions that Israel took, Hamas was created indirectly.
    But to say Israel CREATED Hamas would be dishonest.
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    Re: Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi: IS leader appears in first video in five years

    Quote Originally Posted by Fledermaus View Post
    But to say Israel CREATED Hamas would be dishonest.
    Yes, because they don't get any advantages. But by creating directly ISIS which is a sunni muslim group, they were used them to demolish the shia.
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    Re: Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi: IS leader appears in first video in five years

    Quote Originally Posted by Fledermaus View Post
    But to say Israel CREATED Hamas would be dishonest.
    You know that US created Al quaeda to fight the soviet in the 80s in afganistan? And 20 years later, they US demolished them. The same with Isis. Everyone knows that. I think even Israel used isis in their advantage, to more precise it was al nusra.
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    Re: Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi: IS leader appears in first video in five years

    Quote Originally Posted by AmIsraelHai View Post
    You know that US created Al quaeda to fight the soviet in the 80s in afganistan? And 20 years later, they US demolished them. The same with Isis. Everyone knows that. I think even Israel used isis in their advantage, to more precise it was al nusra.
    Fail.

    The US supported the Mujahideen.

    Mujahideen =/= AL Qaeda.
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    Re: Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi: IS leader appears in first video in five years

    Quote Originally Posted by AmIsraelHai View Post
    Yes, because they don't get any advantages. But by creating directly ISIS which is a sunni muslim group, they were used them to demolish the shia.
    Who "created" ISIS?
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    Re: Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi: IS leader appears in first video in five years

    Quote Originally Posted by Fledermaus View Post
    Fail.

    The US supported the Mujahideen.

    Mujahideen =/= AL Qaeda.
    Its not a fail, what I say are facts. The same thing was in Chechenya. Saudis and US were supporting the chechens to fight the russians in cold war.
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    Re: Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi: IS leader appears in first video in five years

    Quote Originally Posted by Fledermaus View Post
    Who "created" ISIS?
    Israel used al nusra against hezbollah. Watch this video
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    Re: Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi: IS leader appears in first video in five years

    Quote Originally Posted by AmIsraelHai View Post
    Its not a fail, what I say are facts. The same thing was in Chechenya. Saudis and US were supporting the chechens to fight the russians in cold war.
    We DID NOT support Al Qaeda in Afghanistan. We DID support the Mujahideen.

    Do you not know the difference?

    In fact Al Qaeda did not even exist until the waning months of Afghanistan.
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