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US plan to create "Arab NATO" fails

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According to Reuters, Egypt announced its reluctance to take part in the American initiative to create a Middle Eastern military alliance. “Arab NATO”, as the unrealized project was called by journalists, faces troubles at the discussion stage - there are too many contradictions among potential participants.
Egypt notified all members of the proposed Middle East alliance of its decision. As noted, Cairo believes that the formation of an "Arab NATO" could lead to tensions with Iran.
At the same time, Egypt is concerned that the alliance will be threatened in case of losing US President Donald Trump in the new election.
An alliance that hasn’t yet been created should unite Jordan, Egypt, and also the six Gulf states: Bahrain, Qatar, Kuwait, the United Arab Emirates, Oman and Saudi Arabia.
The idea of creating a Middle Eastern military alliance was suggested by US President Donald Trump in 2017 during his visit to Riyadh. Since then, American diplomats have been actively meeting with representatives of potential participants in the organization.
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One of these meetings was held recently with representatives of Egypt. On April 9, President of this country Abdel Fattah el-Sisi met with Donald Trump at the White House.
During this meeting, Trump noted Egypt’s "significant progress" in the fight against terrorism. The parties also discussed trade and military cooperation. Apparently, it was during this meeting that Egypt announced its unwillingness to be part of the "Arab NATO".
Washington hopes that the main goal of the organization will be to protect the Middle East from "external aggression" and "strengthen relations between the United States and countries of the region."
It’s assumed that the military alliance will become not only a platform for joint consultations, but will also serve as the basis for the creation of regional air defense and missile defense systems, joint military exercises and close cooperation of counter-terrorism structures. Its ultimate goal is the conclusion of a collective security agreement and the formation of a common military contingent.
In addition, the creation of such an alliance would contribute to the implementation of Trump's idea of reducing the US military presence in the Middle East.

Trump's intentions are in line with the US National Security Strategy, which refers to the need to "expand regional consultative mechanisms" and "deepen interaction" between states supported by the states.
From the point of view of Trump, the United States paid too long for the security of its allies in the Middle East - now it’s time for them to defend themselves.
And if Washington really reduces its presence in the region, the new strategic alliance will be called upon to prevent Iran from filling the vacuum.
In fact, cooperation between the US and a number of Gulf states to contain Iran already exists. But it’s difficult to call this a full-fledged coalition, since there is no general strategy for action.
The Arab countries are allies, but at the same time irreconcilable competitors fighting for leadership in the region.

One of the main obstacles to create a military alliance may be the conflict between Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain and Egypt on the one hand, and Qatar on the other.
The last one has been in diplomatic isolation from other Arab countries for more than a year, and recently announced its withdrawal from OPEC, of which Saudi Arabia is the informal leader.
The authorities of Qatar refer to the economic reasons for getting out of the oil cartel (the country is going to significantly reduce oil production, and it would be difficult to do this within OPEC), it isn’t difficult to trace the political background.
Oman’s membership in the “Arab NATO” also looks vague.
Defense News columnists believe the country is unlikely to sacrifice its traditional neutrality in order to fight Iran.
The agreement among the Arab countries is complicated by the murder of Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi, whose organization is blamed on Saudi Arabian crown prince Mohammad Bin Salman.
It remains unclear how Israel will respond to the emergence of a military alliance in the Middle East.
On the one hand, the alliance is beneficial for Tel Aviv, since one more influential opponent of Iran will appear in the region. "Arab NATO" can be a deterrent to the spread of radical Islam and terrorism, which will favorably affect the security of Israel.

On the other hand, the Arab military alliance may be a threat to Israel due to the prevailing anti-Israeli sentiment in the region. Indeed, recently the Jewish state had to wage bloody wars with the combined Arab forces.
At the moment, there are many more questions than answers around the Middle East strategic alliance. The future of this initiative looks extremely vague, since potential members of the union don’t want to led by the Americans and to enter into unprofitable unions.
 
As was obvious from the start of a bust idea.

This piece is by Robert Fisk a ME Arabic speaking journalist who's lived in Beruit 40 years and who has won the British Press International Journalism Award seven times...


May 20, 2017

Saudi Arabia: Trump's plan to create an Arab NATO with a collection of dictators, tyrants and thugs is bound to fail


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The Savior ?


Donald Trump set off on Friday to create the fantasy of an Arab Nato. There will be dictators aplenty to greet him in Riyadh, corrupt autocrats and thugs and torturers and head choppers. There will be at least one zombie president – the comatose, undead Abdelaziz Bouteflika of Algeria who neither speaks nor, apparently, hears any more – and, of course, one totally insane president, Donald Trump.

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The incubator of terrorism


Even for those used to the insanity of Arab leadership – not to mention those Westerners who have still to grasp that the US President is himself completely off his rocker – the Arab-Muslim (Sunni) summit in Saudi Arabia is almost beyond comprehension. From Pakistan and Jordan and Turkey and Egypt and Morocco and 42 other minareted capitals, they are to come so that the effete and ambitious Saudis can lead their Islamic crusade against “terrorism” and Shiism. The fact that most of the Middle East’s “terrorism” – Isis and al-Qaeda, aka the Nusrah Front – have their fountainhead in the very nation to which Trump is traveling, must and will be ignored. Never before in Middle Eastern history has such a “kumidia alakhta” – quite literally “comedy of errors” in Arabic – been staged.

On top of all this, they have to listen to Trump’s ravings on peace and Islamic “extremism”, surely the most preposterous speech to be uttered by a US president since he is going to have to pretend that Iran is extremist – when it is Saudi Arabia’s Wahhabi Isis clones who are destroying Islam’s reputation throughout the world. All this while he is fostering war.

But be sure Vladimir Putin comprehends all too well what is going on in Riyadh. He will watch the Arab Nato fall apart. His foreign minister Lavrov understands Syria and Iran. And his security officers are deep inside Syria. Besides, if he needs any more intelligence information, he has only to ask Trump.


Almere-Digest: Saudi Arabia: Trump's plan to create an Arab NATO with a collection of dictators, tyrants and thugs is bound to fail - by Robert Fisk



Few doubt Iran's role in terror and instability in the ME. Few also fail to recognize that Trump goes where the money is which is Saudi Arabia. We recall that Willie Sutton said he robbed banks because that's where the money is. We know Donald Trump sells out America to the highest bidder.
 
According to Reuters, Egypt announced its reluctance to take part in the American initiative to create a Middle Eastern military alliance. “Arab NATO”, as the unrealized project was called by journalists, faces troubles at the discussion stage - there are too many contradictions among potential participants.

~snipped for space~

1. It is customary to provide a link to a news story that you have cited...in this case, Reuters. There are reasons for this...to give people the ability to check the veracity of your claims that Reuters actually said what you say they said and to allow people to differentiate what Reuters said and what you said...if you did, in fact, say anything in your own words...among other reasons.

2. What recent "bloody wars with the combined Arab forces" has Israel waged that either Reuters or you say "indeed" happened?

Anyway, I agree with Trump. Get the US out as much as possible. Encourage those ME countries to deal with their problems...with our help when necessary...but not with our control. It's their region...not ours.

If, in fact, Cairo believes the formation of this alliance could "lead to tensions with Iran", well guess what...there already ARE tensions with Iran. Those Arab countries have to deal with those tensions whether they like it or not.

Their fears that Trump losing the next election would jeopardize this alliance is misplaced. In actuality, they don't need the US to justify their desires to band together for mutual protection. They are sovereign nations...not vassals of the US.

No, I see the only valid roadblock to the formation of this alliance are the conflicts between the various countries. I think, if they allow these conflicts to continue, they are playing into the hands of Iran and they will suffer the consequences.

So it goes...
 
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1. It is customary to provide a link to a news story that you have cited...in this case, Reuters. There are reasons for this...to give people the ability to check the veracity of your claims that Reuters actually said what you say they said and to allow people to differentiate what Reuters said and what you said...if you did, in fact, say anything in your own words...among other reasons.

2. What recent "bloody wars with the combined Arab forces" has Israel waged that either Reuters or you say "indeed" happened?

Anyway, I agree with Trump. Get the US out as much as possible. Encourage those ME countries to deal with their problems...with our help when necessary...but not with our control. It's their region...not ours.

If, in fact, Cairo believes the formation of this alliance could "lead to tensions with Iran", well guess what...there already ARE tensions with Iran. Those Arab countries have to deal with those tensions whether they like it or not.

Their fears that Trump losing the next election would jeopardize this alliance is misplaced. In actuality, they don't need the US to justify their desires to band together for mutual protection. They are sovereign nations...not vassals of the US.

No, I see the only valid roadblock to the formation of this alliance are the conflicts between the various countries. I think, if they allow these conflicts to continue, they are playing into the hands of Iran and they will suffer the consequences.

So it goes...

A 'New Arab League'.

If it does by some quirk happen, I don't see it lasting.
 
1. It is customary to provide a link to a news story that you have cited...in this case, Reuters. There are reasons for this...to give people the ability to check the veracity of your claims that Reuters actually said what you say they said and to allow people to differentiate what Reuters said and what you said...if you did, in fact, say anything in your own words...among other reasons.

2. What recent "bloody wars with the combined Arab forces" has Israel waged that either Reuters or you say "indeed" happened?

Anyway, I agree with Trump. Get the US out as much as possible. Encourage those ME countries to deal with their problems...with our help when necessary...but not with our control. It's their region...not ours.

If, in fact, Cairo believes the formation of this alliance could "lead to tensions with Iran", well guess what...there already ARE tensions with Iran. Those Arab countries have to deal with those tensions whether they like it or not.

Their fears that Trump losing the next election would jeopardize this alliance is misplaced. In actuality, they don't need the US to justify their desires to band together for mutual protection. They are sovereign nations...not vassals of the US.

No, I see the only valid roadblock to the formation of this alliance are the conflicts between the various countries. I think, if they allow these conflicts to continue, they are playing into the hands of Iran and they will suffer the consequences.

So it goes...

Strangely, I agree with you. If the Arab countries want to form an alliance against Iran or anyone else, they are free to do so. I don't see them doing it effectively, but that's their business.
 
Strangely, I agree with you. If the Arab countries want to form an alliance against Iran or anyone else, they are free to do so. I don't see them doing it effectively, but that's their business.

Thank you. I am always gratified when someone agrees with reason and common sense.
 
This Arab Nato alliance as it's often called originated officially in February 2015 in the Obama National Defense Strategy document.

The notion of a military alliance of the Gulf States plus Egypt, Jordan, UAE, commanded by the Saudis and guided by the United States had a promising start. A remarkable aspect is that Israel would be a silent partner.

The proposal gained traction right away to check Iran, make Turkey take notice and counter Russia and China in the region short term and long term. There were several encouraging conferences over a couple of years. The Arab League thought it was the best idea since the pyramids.

When Trump became Potus / CinC his Secretary of Defense James Mattis said the proposed alliance was the best idea since pita bread. There were challenges for sure, problems, issues, ancient rivalries, some nasty conflicts such as in Yemen, but the countries of the proposed alliance were nodding in agreement a lot. They said it was a good thing Washington would standardize, supply and equip the huge alliance forces at Nato style discounts. Prospective governments of the treaty alliance took note too when a Chinese destroyer entered the Med for the first time ever.

Then Trump suspended the Iran nuclear agreement while Europe continued to respect and honor the deal struck by the P5 + 1 of the UN Security Council members. Trump and the Saudi monarchy became BFF while Putin gloated. Mattis said he'd quit as SecDef while Trump said he fired him. Egypt suddenly said last month its largest Army of the region and armed forces would not be under Saudi supremacy as proposed in the discussions of an Arab Nato cohered in Washington and underwritten by it militarily, politically and strategically.

So now we see the further proof that everything Trump touches turns to sh!t.
 
Methinks that now you may have reached your limit.

Not at all.

I'll never reach a limit to my use of reason and common sense.
 
Not at all.

I'll never reach a limit to my use of reason and common sense.

I have noticed at the thread that you like the idea of the Arab Nato equivalent. I'd noted in scrolling the treaty proposal was officially incorporated into the Obama National Security Strategy in 2015. It was the first time Pentagon formally endorsed it. So it's unfortunate if not tragic Trump & Co have mucked it up since taking office.

2015 was also the year the US ended some 20 years of its global strategic ambiguity. That is, after the end of the Cold War the Pentagon suspended its listing of foreign hostile states against the United States. During that suspension USA had no official nation state enemies. Then in 2015 when Ashton Carter became SecDef he changed that -- Carter had worked for or officially advised 11 secretaries of defense. Pentagon put Russia behind Door Number One, China behind Door Number Two and Iran behind Door Number Three. Then Carter flung open all the doors on 'em. He put NK in the middle of the room under a spotlight. (It was an energy saver spotlight of course.)

So I'd be confident then you'd give credit where credit is due. Your guideposts being reason and common sense and all the rest of it. I must say I'm pleased to see you turning over this new leaf, as it were. It gives me hope for the forlorn. I look forward to seeing you on our new common ground.
 
I have noticed at the thread that you like the idea of the Arab Nato equivalent. I'd noted in scrolling the treaty proposal was officially incorporated into the Obama National Security Strategy in 2015. It was the first time Pentagon formally endorsed it. So it's unfortunate if not tragic Trump & Co have mucked it up since taking office.

2015 was also the year the US ended some 20 years of its global strategic ambiguity. That is, after the end of the Cold War the Pentagon suspended its listing of foreign hostile states against the United States. During that suspension USA had no official nation state enemies. Then in 2015 when Ashton Carter became SecDef he changed that -- Carter had worked for or officially advised 11 secretaries of defense. Pentagon put Russia behind Door Number One, China behind Door Number Two and Iran behind Door Number Three. Then Carter flung open all the doors on 'em. He put NK in the middle of the room under a spotlight. (It was an energy saver spotlight of course.)

So I'd be confident then you'd give credit where credit is due. Your guideposts being reason and common sense and all the rest of it. I must say I'm pleased to see you turning over this new leaf, as it were. It gives me hope for the forlorn. I look forward to seeing you on our new common ground.

I always give credit where it is due. I also assign blame where it is due. Such as blaming Obama with his Hillary-inspired lead-from-behind operation against Gadaffi that gave ISIS the support they needed to move from a "junior league" terrorist organization to an organization that controlled huge swaths of both Syria and Iraq.

As I said...reason and common sense.
 
Yeah, I'm sure this will go well. Gather a bunch of authoritarian states with incompetent militaries and see what happens.
 
I always give credit where it is due. I also assign blame where it is due. Such as blaming Obama with his Hillary-inspired lead-from-behind operation against Gadaffi that gave ISIS the support they needed to move from a "junior league" terrorist organization to an organization that controlled huge swaths of both Syria and Iraq.

As I said...reason and common sense.

I don't recall you giving Obama any credit for anything.

While you give Trump your absolute support no matter what it is.

Always and only criticizing the critics of Trump. And offering only Trump apologias. Your long record is of Obama-Clinton Derangement Syndrome and Putin-Trump Support Syndrome. To include MSM Derangement Syndrome.

And here I'd been hoping -- against hope -- you'd turned over a new leaf. It turns out I've been waiting in vain here for you to commend OB for officially endorsing the Arab Nato equivalent in his National Security Strategy of 2015. And for the Obama Administration ending 20 years of US strategic ambiguity by identifying as hostile nation state competitors, in order, Russia, China, Iran and the special case of North Korea. Indeed, what we have now in the Trump maladministration resembles nothing of this. So call it as you will but your reason and common sense is another man's poison.
 
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