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Israeli Spyware that Reportedly Helped Kill Jamal Khashoggi Found in USA as Well

While the orthodox community may number 20% of the Israeli Jewish population, the rabbi's position holds power over all Jews, whether they're religious or not. For example, women in Israel who seek an abortion must gain the consent of a government sanctioned rabbi. The rabbi has the final say over whether the woman is allowed to terminate pregnancy.

The Sephardi Chief Rabbi is a paid position by the government. He is one half of The Chief Rabbinate Council, which holds immense power over the lives of all Jews in Israel, not just orthodox or haredi.

"The Rabbinical courts are part of Israel's judicial system, and are managed by the Ministry of Religious Services. The courts have exclusive jurisdiction over marriage and divorce of Jews and have parallel competence with district courts in matters of personal status, alimony, child support, custody, and inheritance. Religious court verdicts are implemented and enforced—as for the civil court system—by the police, bailiff's office, and other agencies

With the Rabbinate existing as a government department, there have been calls for the entire department to be shut down, and for things to return to a localised model of rabbinate. These calls have increased in recent times because of two former Chief Rabbis being convicted of fraud, and the increasing encroachment of the religious institutions on the lives of Israelis. There are also charges that the office has become a political, rather than a religious, office, and that it has become beholden to the Haredi world and become their "puppets"."



How chagos can sit there and distort the truth day after day is a mystery to me.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chief_Rabbinate_of_Israel
 
Enough so that you, Chagos, & Apocalypse refuse to give a straight answer. No other groups of people I've ever encountered do this. So its apparently not limited to just Israelis.

Do what?


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Amazing how the ignorant continuously demonstrates their lack of knowledge (here of Israel), to the point even of contradicting themselves and being unaware of even that.

The Sephardi rabbi represents the main stream of Jewish opinion on black monkeys (since that was the claim peddled) to an even lesser degree than Catholicism does for Christians on the topic of confession.

Or a Kluxer would be seen as representing the political right in US on any topic at all.

Less amazing that the ignorant, once their narrative is shown for being the fabricated BS that it is, will accuse the better informed of distortion. When one has nothing of more substance, that's probably the only recourse left to them, no matter how foolish those reverting to it make themselves look in the process.

Themselves and often user names chosen.
 
No disciplinary action was taken against Rabbi Yosef, so what other conclusion can one come to but to think the rabbi's opinion that 'black people are monkeys' isn't all that controversial in Israel?
 
The conclusions that those completely clueless over any country they spout forth on draw, can safely be ignored.
 
I guffaw at this poster's extreme megalomanic character, as he thinks filling every post with personal attacks & insults frees him from having to make a valid point.

Bottom line- Rabbi Yitzhak Yosef is paid by the government, and wasn't reprimanded or disciplined for spouting KKK type rhetoric. No one can be so blind as to miss the significance of that.
 
Outlining that this thread has by now been derailed by the very "opening" poster himself (who clearly faked some initial indignation over spyware) to pursue the real and very obvious goal of denigrating the State of Israel at any given opportunity, may be seen as insulting by the thus revealed, but remains fact.

In view of the behaviour displayed both here and in other threads, that is really the only pertinent and by that criterion valid point to be made.

The fact also remains (to stay with the OP's own derailment here) that still no evidence has been submitted to show the Sephardic rabbi as representing the mainstream of Israeli opinion, let alone as holding power over all Jews in forcing them to follow his take on anything at all.

Abortion (seeing how it was dragged up as a supposed item of support for the OP's asinine claim) being one of the main pointers, with at least half of Israel's women undergoing it, showing approval institutions of both state and religious the finger.

Interestingly without being subject to prosecution for their defiance of either.
 
Lol! Anyone interested in doing so can quite easily see that the first derail attempt occurs at post #3 by a certain board member who goes by the username 'Chagos'. He tried to detail the OP, which never mentioned Jews or the Jewish people, with a corny line to the effect of, 'must be the jooz again'. This counts as a derail attempt, as every time someone lobs this sophomoric crap at another commenter, the real intention is to put the other person on the defensive, and get them to plead their case that they're not antisemitic. Typical trick of the likes of Chagos, who by the way, has never offered the slightest suggestion of being offended by the Rabbi's remarks ('daft Rabbi' is all he'd volunteer).
The man who is constantly offended by any citizen of the EU who offers the slightest criticism of migration trends, doesn't flinch an inch when one of the most powerful religious figures is Israel stereotypes blacks as monkeys. Telling.
 
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Pleading to not being a Jew hater isn't going to get the person feeling thus charged very far at all, is it now? Not with the known record.:lamo

But it's nevertheless good that the thread has abandoned its initial window dressing over any spyware and has come to its originally intended point.

Which is of course "stick it to da Jooz".

In view of which it's pretty fruitless to argue over some rabbi fool or over how much power he wields when one considers the flak he got at home, all the way to the justice ministry.

The OP's purpose remains clear.
 
In addition to all of which (when one cuts thru the deflection nonsense) the question on proof of how said rabbi represents mainstream Israeli opinion still remains unanswered.
 
The Justice Ministry didn't do anything about Yosef's racism, and he's been known to use the Talmud to support everything from slavery (non-Jews only exist to serve Jews), to misogyny (where he called secular women 'animals' for dressing how they want). Remember, this rabbi is EMPLOYED by the Israeli government, which itself has been determined to be a violator of Human Rights by the leading organizations in the field.

I'm sure Chagos knows these things, but why bother being consistent when it comes to human rights, when you can call the goy 'joo haterz', and feign moral superiority?
 
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Israel has laws on its books which make incitement to racism a crime. Apparently the Justice Ministry determined that equating black people to monkeys didn't qualify, thus the 'rabbi represents mainstream Israeli opinion'.
 
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More amazing revelations about our terrific ally Israel. As I recall, the original story from Sept about Israeli spyware floating around the USA garnered virtually no interest from the MSM or intelligence agencies in the USA, so I'd assume they're also in support of what NSO is doing with Israel's blessing.

I wonder who else is currently under surveillance , or possibly even being tracked for the purpose of murder?

'Mossad' is Israeli's topnotch Israeli agency responsible for collecting intelligence, covert operations and counter-terrorism. Israel has been working hand in hand with the U.S. for many years on global security threats. The Israelis were extremely upset with Trump in May 2017 when he hosted Russia's two top spies in the Oval Office without benefit of the American press present. He gave away some very sensitive information regarding Israeli's intelligence to those two Russian spies.

http://wapo.st/2pPSCIo?tid=ss_tw&utm_term=.61245de26815
 
'Mossad' is Israeli's topnotch Israeli agency responsible for collecting intelligence, covert operations and counter-terrorism. Israel has been working hand in hand with the U.S. for many years on global security threats. The Israelis were extremely upset with Trump in May 2017 when he hosted Russia's two top spies in the Oval Office without benefit of the American press present. He gave away some very sensitive information regarding Israeli's intelligence to those two Russian spies.

http://wapo.st/2pPSCIo?tid=ss_tw&utm_term=.61245de26815

You realize that the Mossad spies on us, correct? So they steal US classified information, which is a problem considering they've got a penchant for selling American technology and weapons to China. In fact, its safe to say that Israel is hedging its bets by cozying up to China, in case the USA weakens further. Why would you be more concerned about what Trump did?
 
You realize that the Mossad spies on us, correct? So they steal US classified information, which is a problem considering they've got a penchant for selling American technology and weapons to China. In fact, its safe to say that Israel is hedging its bets by cozying up to China, in case the USA weakens further. Why would you be more concerned about what Trump did?

Well, no. Israeli will not breach U.S. national security because if they did they know damned well the U.S. wouldn't have their back in the Middle East. Why wouldn't anyone NOT be concerned with a U.S. president inviting Russia's two top spies into the Oval Office in the White House with only Russian press present to witness the meeting?
 
Well, no. Israeli will not breach U.S. national security because if they did they know damned well the U.S. wouldn't have their back in the Middle East. Why wouldn't anyone NOT be concerned with a U.S. president inviting Russia's two top spies into the Oval Office in the White House with only Russian press present to witness the meeting?

1. Israel not only spies on the US government, they take it a step further by spying on individual US citizens who have no government connections.

2. The US has Israel's back in the Mideast for a variety of reasons, none of which is based on some form of mutual trust. If the USA really turned it's back on countries that spy on us, Israel would have been tossed years ago.

From 2000-

Israel has been caught spying in Washington again, this time on the White House and other sensitive telephone systems. But Americans have to look and listen very hard to learn the details. The damage could be as great as that sustained during spy-for-pay Jonathan Jay Pollard’s blatant military codes, plans and secret-stealing rampage of the 1980s. And probably greater than Israel’s stealing not only of U.S. nuclear secrets in the 1960s, but even of American enriched uranium via an Israel-controlled contracting firm in Apollo, Pennsylvania.

https://www.wrmea.org/000-june/despite-coverup-israel-caught-spying-in-washington-again.html

3. How was the Trump episode resolved? Criminal charges? Impeachment? As far as I know, no wrongdoing was ever proved.
 
1. Israel not only spies on the US government, they take it a step further by spying on individual US citizens who have no government connections.

2. The US has Israel's back in the Mideast for a variety of reasons, none of which is based on some form of mutual trust. If the USA really turned it's back on countries that spy on us, Israel would have been tossed years ago.

From 2000-

Israel has been caught spying in Washington again, this time on the White House and other sensitive telephone systems. But Americans have to look and listen very hard to learn the details. The damage could be as great as that sustained during spy-for-pay Jonathan Jay Pollard’s blatant military codes, plans and secret-stealing rampage of the 1980s. And probably greater than Israel’s stealing not only of U.S. nuclear secrets in the 1960s, but even of American enriched uranium via an Israel-controlled contracting firm in Apollo, Pennsylvania.

https://www.wrmea.org/000-june/despite-coverup-israel-caught-spying-in-washington-again.html

3. How was the Trump episode resolved? Criminal charges? Impeachment? As far as I know, no wrongdoing was ever proved.

Republican control, that's why no charges. Winter is coming.
 
Republican control, that's why no charges. Winter is coming.

That's too bad. I thought perhaps you'd be open to a dialogue on the actual subject you decided to comment on, but you only dropped by to talk about Orange Man.
 
That's too bad. I thought perhaps you'd be open to a dialogue on the actual subject you decided to comment on, but you only dropped by to talk about Orange Man.

That's my prerogative. It's hogwash, that's all, no 'there-there' as Republicans loved to say, just a 'nothing-burger'.
 
Evidence for an idiot Sephardim rabbi representing mainstream Israeli opinion continues to be absent, everything so far presented in supposed support of such a claim having been as idiotic as the rabbi himself.
 
Pure disinformation, or pure stupidity Chagos..I can't decide which you're peddling here.

You might want to brush up on the subject before blabbering on about it though. Rabbi Yosef's father held the Chief Rabbi post before him, and was also a noted racist, though his hatred was along the lines of yours, and was reserved most of all for Caucasians. When he died, he was worth tens of millions of shekels, not bad for a man of God. His racist tirades were also tolerated by the Israeli government, and the citizens of Israel. Netanyahu requested to eulogize him at his funeral. Here they are getting, er, comfortable with one another:

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Evidence for an idiot Sephardim rabbi representing mainstream Israeli opinion continues to be absent, everything so far presented in supposed support of such a claim having been as idiotic as the rabbi himself.

The peddling of something not remotely resembling any such evidence and claiming it to be corroboration of an idiotic claim, being just that and a demonstration of both the poster's ignorance on Israeli affairs as well as his dishonesty in general.
 
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