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Are you pro-rebel or pro-Assad ?

stan1990 said:
non-terrorist rebels or moderate rebels don't exist. Free Syrian Army(FSA), called a moderate, is an organization consisting of gang members, thieves, criminals and outlaws. They committed all kind of atrocities: killing people based on ethnic or religious background, killing civilians, taking women as captives of war and recruiting children.
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Opinion (from RT.COM) noted.
 
I support the Syrian people, not Assad or the FSA. It is the good people of Syria who suffer from the rebels, Assad, and manipulation by the U.S. and Israel. They are who I support.
 
ecofarm said:
Islamist is a vague term. Most Muslims in Syria are not terrorists. The SNC coordinated relations with non-terrorist elements of the rebels.

Do you deny that Assad used chemical weapons on civilians to maintain his dictatorship?
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Because of the history of our government outright lying to get us into wars I don't know and suspect the rebels did it as it gained no military advantage and Assad would know the terrible consequences.
 
Fledermaus said:
How did the SYRIANS in Libya turn out?
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They turned north, into southern Europe, along with the 200,000 other migrants that used Libya as a stepping stone to enter Europe.

Removing Assad will bring about an Islamic State in Syria, the goal of ISIS. Why do you support this?
 
I am pro keep the US out of that mess.
 
A Syrian said:
Or any other group
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I'm not in favor of any of the choices. It becomes a lesser of evils. We need to stop helping to destabilize the middle east.
 
FreedomFromAll said:
Seems a bit more complicated than choosing a team. But to satisfy your question; neither the rebels or Assad, just the people caught between all the assholes.
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There isn't really anyway to help them. We simply cannot, and should not be the world police.
 
Apocalypse said:
Occasionally they do. Yes. When they feel it's necessary.
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I doubt it. They are simply collateral damage, just like every time Clinton and Obama lobbed cruise missiles instead of using armed forces, that can discriminate through the rifle scope.
 
truthatallcost said:
They turned north, into southern Europe, along with the 200,000 other migrants that used Libya as a stepping stone to enter Europe.
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So the SYRIANS actually did nothing in Libya... Got it.

truthatallcost said:
Removing Assad will bring about an Islamic State in Syria, the goal of ISIS. Why do you support this?
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These are the countries affected by Arab Spring...

One Civil War, one overthrow, and the rest were various concessions made by the governments to satisfy protesters....

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Many of the rebels in Syria spent much of their time FIGHTING ISIS.

Just think what Syria might be like if Assad had stepped down or made real concessions.
 
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Apocalypse said:
Yeah, they don't. Getting killed while trying to invade a country is hardly being murdered, and the majority of those are terrorists anyway either by actual membership or by their actions.



In case you haven't realized it this thread is discussing the Syrian war between Assad forces and the rebels. The Assad forces include Russia Iran and Hezbollah.
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Are Israel and Saudi Arabia even involved in any capacity whatsoever in the Syrian Civil War or the War on ISIL? I don't believe they are.
 
joko104 said:
Because of the history of our government outright lying to get us into wars I don't know and suspect the rebels did it as it gained no military advantage and Assad would know the terrible consequences.
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Thank you for that idiotic perspective.
 
Abbazorkzog said:
Are Israel and Saudi Arabia even involved in any capacity whatsoever in the Syrian Civil War or the War on ISIL? I don't believe they are.
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Israel targets Hezbollah/Iranian forces in Syria just as it used to do before the civil war started, some use this combined with the fact that the Sunni ISIS and the Shi'ite Iran are enemies to suggest using CT nonsense that Israel is aiding ISIS in these attacks, but that's just that.
 
FreedomFromAll said:
I agree that we do not need to be the world police. I also believe that world politics is a bit more complicated than that though.
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It's very complex. Our biggest problem is the reasons we go in for in most cases. Very few times since WWII, has our nation ever entered into conflicts for honorable reasons.
 
Fledermaus said:
So the SYRIANS actually did nothing in Libya... Got it.
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You are committing to repeating history by your refusal to learn from it. The FSA aren't fighting for American styled democracy and freedom. They want an Islamic State, and Assad's inclusiveness towards Christians and varying Islamic sects prohibits that objective.


These are the countries affected by Arab Spring...

One Civil War, one overthrow, and the rest were various concessions made by the governments to satisfy protesters....

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Did the Arab Spring falter?

The Arab Spring did not fail, as many people would argue, it just went out of steam for two reasons:

Firstly, the youth lack experience in the management of the post-Arab Spring political situation and, as such, they were supplanted quickly by the regimented and religiously-motivated Islamist groups, who, in turn, are losing the sympathy of the masses due to their harsh handling of daily life; and
Secondly, the establishment, in many cases, introduced reforms, that may or may not be genuine, either to defuse the situation or make minimal changes to ride the storm.

https://themaghrebtimes.com/04/22/the-arab-dream-of-democracy-that-never-materialized/

Stop advocating for unsuccessful ideas that haven't worked in a dozen tries.

Many of the rebels in Syria spent much of their time FIGHTING ISIS.

Just think what Syria might be like if Assad had stepped down or made real concessions.
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The real issue is Assad is unwanted by the American military industrial complex and Israel. It's got absolutely nothing to do with human rights, freedom, or all the rest of the familiar storyline the Pentagon has cranked out since the Korean War.
 
truthatallcost said:
You are committing to repeating history by your refusal to learn from it. The FSA aren't fighting for American styled democracy and freedom. They want an Islamic State, and Assad's inclusiveness towards Christians and varying Islamic sects prohibits that objective.


Did the Arab Spring falter?

The Arab Spring did not fail, as many people would argue, it just went out of steam for two reasons:

Firstly, the youth lack experience in the management of the post-Arab Spring political situation and, as such, they were supplanted quickly by the regimented and religiously-motivated Islamist groups, who, in turn, are losing the sympathy of the masses due to their harsh handling of daily life; and
Secondly, the establishment, in many cases, introduced reforms, that may or may not be genuine, either to defuse the situation or make minimal changes to ride the storm.

https://themaghrebtimes.com/04/22/the-arab-dream-of-democracy-that-never-materialized/

Stop advocating for unsuccessful ideas that haven't worked in a dozen tries.



The real issue is Assad is unwanted by the American military industrial complex and Israel. It's got absolutely nothing to do with human rights, freedom, or all the rest of the familiar storyline the Pentagon has cranked out since the Korean War.
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Who stated FSA was working towards an American styled Democracy?

Is that now a requirement?

Since when?
 
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