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Purged By Turkey, An Ex-NATO Officer Speaks Out About Detention Under Erdogan

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Purged military officers being brought before judges in May 2017

8/15/18
"I am a navy officer who has been stabbed in the back by his brothers in arms," reads a pinned tweet by Turkish former Lt. Cmdr. Cafer Topkaya. "Trapped, purged, and imprisoned by his fellow countrymen. Once a NATO staff officer, now an exile. I guess it's time to tell my story!" After arriving in Ankara, there was an uneventful overnight at the officers' club. But then he got to the "urgent meeting" at general staff headquarters. He says he got a bad feeling the moment he presented his commander with a customary box of chocolates. "He felt guilty. I could see it in his eyes," Topkaya remembers. "I understood that the trap was ready, everything was ready." When Topkaya tried to leave the building, suddenly his pass didn't work. Then police arrived and hauled him off. He soon found himself lying on the floor of a re-purposed gymnasium with hundreds of other military officials, many of them battered and bruised, and with bloodied bandages lying all over. He'd seen this place and the condition of its inhabitants in leaked photos, but it was shocking to be there. After 12 days with little food, he remembers barely being able to stand or think clearly. Topkaya was brought before a prosecutor he presumed would release him once she knew his status as a lifelong officer and a NATO diplomat. Instead, what he thought were respected achievements were now liabilities. Prosecutors accused him of supporting a "terrorist organization" — which is what Turkey's government labels alleged or real followers of Gulen — and of insulting Erdogan on Twitter. Topkaya explained to authorities he had no political or religious ties, and wasn't even on Twitter.

Nevertheless, he was packed off to Sincan prison, where he says he avoided physical abuse himself but saw cellmates returning from interrogation bearing signs of maltreatment. They spoke of torture, such as being strapped to electric chairs or waterboarded, he says. In the gym, he saw one colonel repeatedly taken away to interrogations where the colonel's wife was also brought in and threatened with imprisonment, as authorities emphasized that would mean their two small daughters would be left unattended. After more than 16 months in detention, Topkaya was released conditionally to family members in Ankara with orders to check in with police every week. Going through old documents, he found a nondiplomatic passport that military police missed while scouring his parents' and in-laws' houses. He decided not to chance being arrested again. In late February, he took the passport and ran for the Greek border. "It was like escaping from enemy territory," he says. It took him a few days to get back to Belgium. He doesn't want to give exact details of how he traveled for fear of putting up obstacles for future escapees. "Bad guys have taken control of the government, the country," Topkaya concurs, "and someone should do something to stop them." Topkaya decided he had become at least one of those "someones." Last month, he created two Twitter accounts under his real name — one in Turkish, one in English — where he's telling his story, post by post, in meticulous detail. He includes supporting documents when possible. opkaya says he and his wife are aware of the risks and both believe it's the right thing to do — no matter what. "I have to tell things even if it costs me my life," Topkaya says, "because there are some mistakes you can't correct. And if I don't talk now, it will be a big mistake that I will regret for the rest of my life. And instead of living with that regret, dying with the feeling that I have done my duty is better."

Why is Erdogan's dictatorship still a NATO member? I appreciate geo-realities, but the Erdogan/AK-Party regime is becoming an embarrassing stain on NATO.
 
USA toadie NATO supports dictators. USA supports 79% of the World's worst dictators, especially in the MidEast. Of course, you know that. Just another inconvenient truth.
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Because NATO has become as worthless as the UN, full of dubious characters with questionable intentions all squabbling with other members ad nauseam to questionable ends.
 
If it goes in this way, USA will hardly find any ally and as a result become another isolated country after Iran/N.Korea in the world along with some global shifts.

BTW, The ''pastor'' has been photographed with terrorists.

https://twitter.com/bekiroglu1/status/1028866833506598912
 
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If it goes in this way, USA will hardly find any ally and as a result become another isolated country after Iran/N.Korea in the world along with some global shifts.

BTW, The ''pastor'' has been photographed with terrorists.

https://twitter.com/bekiroglu1/status/1028866833506598912

Unlike the Erdogan regime that allowed tens of thousands of global ISIS recruits to freely transit Turkey into Syria, the YPG/YPJ actually fought ISIS and captured the ISIS capital of ar-Raqqah.

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Syrian YPG/YPJ Kurdish forces capture the ISIS capital city of Raqqa. 17 October 2017.
 
Unlike the Erdogan regime that allowed tens of thousands of global ISIS recruits to freely transit Turkey into Syria, the YPG/YPJ actually fought ISIS and captured the ISIS capital of ar-Raqqah.

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Syrian YPG/YPJ Kurdish forces capture the ISIS capital city of Raqqa. 17 October 2017.

The US harbored anti Turkish terrorists in Iraq for what 15 years
 
Unlike the Erdogan regime that allowed tens of thousands of global ISIS recruits to freely transit Turkey into Syria, the YPG/YPJ actually fought ISIS and captured the ISIS capital of ar-Raqqah.

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Syrian YPG/YPJ Kurdish forces capture the ISIS capital city of Raqqa. 17 October 2017.

You would not like to take that road with me.

Some clue...USA supporting terrorists with ethnic cleansing agenda under the excuse of ISIS threat that was reported by US before the birth.

 
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Any other country can point out in response that the USA has more of our citizens in prisons than any other country on earth many times over.

The fairness of Turkey's justice system is none of our business. If any of our citizens go to another country they are inherently and voluntarily submitting to that other country's laws and legal system at their own peril.

These incidents are just used for sanctions otherwise wanted because we could point to any country on earth - including our own - and point to instances of unjust arrest, imprisonment and mistreatment while in prison. Any sanctions we impose on other countries usually have absolutely nothing to do with the knee-jerk reasons we are told.
 
Ask Fagan. He'll know.

The PKK were in northern Iraq for decades. They did not leave after the US arrived. The mountain base they have is well known. The US did not bomb them, drive them out but harbored them during the US time in Iraq. Mostly to support PJAK, the sister group to the PKK but focused on Iran nominally
 
You would not like to take that road with me.
I'll take any road with you.

Like the one of Erdogan's bunch having initially channelled supplies to IS, like the one of having allowed IS fighters to cross into Turkey to there give them medical aid, like the one of Turkish tanks and infantry having stood inactively just North of Kobane, to just watch IS nigh on demolish that town in the hope that its Kurdish inhabitants would perish as well, thus freeing Turkey from having to do that itself.

Of course you never heard any of this, mere mention in your country would get you jailed.
Some clue...USA supporting terrorists with ethnic cleansing agenda under the excuse of ISIS threat that was reported by US before the birth.
So you are denying that there was immense IS activity in the area?

Well, maybe you can be sold on the propaganda that your Sultan throws at you, most people on here cannot be. And not by you either.
 
Lol. You scare no one.

I'd rock & roll with the YPG anytime.

... feel free to take a shot any time after you do quite a search before typing, or just type you will get humiliated anyway.
 
I'll take any road with you.

Like the one of Erdogan's bunch having initially channelled supplies to IS, like the one of having allowed IS fighters to cross into Turkey to there give them medical aid, like the one of Turkish tanks and infantry having stood inactively just North of Kobane, to just watch IS nigh on demolish that town in the hope that its Kurdish inhabitants would perish as well, thus freeing Turkey from having to do that itself.

Of course you never heard any of this, mere mention in your country would get you jailed.
So you are denying that there was immense IS activity in the area?

Well, maybe you can be sold on the propaganda that your Sultan throws at you, most people on here cannot be. And not by you either.

Claiming and proving is two different things.

I claimed the terrorists with ethnic cleansing agenda, and posted a video of int.group in order to prove.

When you start to claim and prove will get the response accordingly.
 
Claiming and proving is two different things.

I claimed the terrorists with ethnic cleansing agenda, and posted a video of int.group in order to prove.

When you start to claim and prove will get the response accordingly.
The Turkish journalists that revealed the aid shipments to IS were all jailed, Turkish forces standing inactively just short of the Turkish-Syrian border while watching Kobane getting pulverized could be seen on any TV (provided it wasn't tuned to any Turkish station).

Your video proves nothing, it's a clear case of "he said, she said". Moving civilians from war zones is not unusual and unless you can provide more robust proof of actual ethnic cleansing, not worth watching.

And you'd better get your definition of ethnic cleansing right, it involves active killing.

You know, like the murder of probably 1 to 1.5 million Armenians at the beginning of the last century.
 
... feel free to take a shot any time after you do quite a search before typing, or just type you will get humiliated anyway.

Feel free to explain to us why Turkey has more imprisoned journalists than any other nation on Earth.

And tell us all why Ankara feels compelled to ethnically-cleanse Afrin and the rest of Rojava.
 
The Turkish journalists that revealed the aid shipments to IS were all jailed, Turkish forces standing inactively just short of the Turkish-Syrian border while watching Kobane getting pulverized could be seen on any TV (provided it wasn't tuned to any Turkish station).

Your video proves nothing, it's a clear case of "he said, she said". Moving civilians from war zones is not unusual and unless you can provide more robust proof of actual ethnic cleansing, not worth watching.

And you'd better get your definition of ethnic cleansing right, it involves active killing.

You know, like the murder of probably 1 to 1.5 million Armenians at the beginning of the last century.

You still claim but cannot prove, instead make up fictions and excuses is symptom of weak debater.
 
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Feel free to explain to us why Turkey has more imprisoned journalists than any other nation on Earth.

And tell us all why Ankara feels compelled to ethnically-cleanse Afrin and the rest of Rojava.

I was expecting argument, not kinda ''interrogation'', probably not any,he?
 
You still claim but cannot prove, instead make up fictions and excuses is symptom of weak debater.
The symptoms of a weak debater are when he denies what is common knowledge.

Like you.
 
The PKK were in northern Iraq for decades. They did not leave after the US arrived. The mountain base they have is well known. The US did not bomb them, drive them out but harbored them during the US time in Iraq. Mostly to support PJAK, the sister group to the PKK but focused on Iran nominally

Looks Like Our #45 is Jealous of what Bibi is doing with his Press and Left.
 
In the court,

A witness who knows the ''pastor'' for 8-10 years, Levent Alkan, says one day he went in a church, he saw a sign on chairs that Turks could not sit down, asked the reason and they said the chairs for ''guests''; some other day warned him of being in relation with terror supporters, especially helps PKK terrorists; he could not go into churches after his testimony with the order of the ''pastor'', and the ''pastor'' of the IŞIK church wanted him to change his testimony; They had a special room in which they hold meetings, one day he got in the room and saw propaganda documents of PKK terrorist organisation and a map showing ''Kurdistan'' that terrorist organisation want to found, he was not kicked out of the church but left due to discrimination he faced.

Another witness, Murat Çamdan who becomes a christian for 12-13 years, he knew the ''pastor'' Brunson from the church, no any suspicious activity till the last 4-5 years, 4-5 year ago he told us to go to the church that was founded by a guy called Syrian Mehmet, and when he went, he saw them praying over decaying bodies, also saw the ''emblems'' of terrorists on 3 bibles in the church; after a question of the judge he meant PKK terrorist with decaying bodies, he explained to have heard that they were said martyrs to have dead for the homeland.

the source/Turkish: Mahkemede çarp?c? ifadeler: Koltuklar?n üzerinde 'Türkler oturamaz' yaz?yordu - Son Dakika Haberler
 
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If it goes in this way, USA will hardly find any ally and as a result become another isolated country after Iran/N.Korea in the world along with some global shifts.

BTW, The ''pastor'' has been photographed with terrorists.

https://twitter.com/bekiroglu1/status/1028866833506598912

The Turk:

That's a very interesting avatar which you have chosen to represent yourself with here. Are you a fan of Colonel Alparslan Türkeş and the Bozkurtlar (Grey Wolves) movement which he created? Are you sympathetic to their ultranationalist and often violent agenda in Turkey? If so, that might very well colour your views on threads concerning Turkey and the surrounding Middle East not to mention China. Perhaps you could explain to non-Turkish readers here the history and political agenda of the modern-era Grey Wolves since their creation in the 1960's and their violent guerrilla operations which are alleged to have killed up to 6000 people in the 70's and 80's against previous Turkish govenments and leftists. Are you an advocate of forming the Great Turan from Xinjiang to Vienna? I think it would be most enlightening for all here to read and weigh what you might have to say on these matters.

Evilroddy.
 
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The Turk:

That's a very interesting avatar which you have chosen to represent yourself with here. Are you a fan of Colonel Alparslan Türkeş and the Bozkurtlar (Grey Wolves) movement which he created? Are you sympathetic to their ultranationalist and often violent agenda in Turkey? If so, that might very well colour your views on threads concerning Turkey and the surrounding Middle East not to mention China. Perhaps you could explain to non-Turkish readers here the history and political agenda of the modern-era Grey Wolves since their creation in the 1960's and their violent guerrilla operations which are alleged to have killed up to 6000 people in the 70's and 80's against previous Turkish govenments and leftists. Are you an advocate of forming the Great Turan from Xinjiang to Vienna? I think it would be most enlightening for all here to read and weigh what you might have to say on these matters.

Evilroddy.

That is besides the topic;interesting no argument, but fiction spiced with ignorance continues, yet again.

Very shortly...The Turk existance on the earth dates millenniums back, the grey wolf has historical place in our early history of existential fight, therefore becomes the symbol of the whole Turks in the large Turk geography, since then.


I hope next time you bring on-topic argument with no ignorance.
 
That is besides the topic;interesting no argument, but fiction spiced with ignorance continues, yet again.

Very shortly...The Turk existance on the earth dates millenniums back, the grey wolf has historical place in our early history of existential fight, therefore becomes the symbol of the whole Turks in the large Turk geography, since then.

I hope next time you bring on-topic argument with no ignorance.

In other words ..... busted.
 
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