Israel Promotes Islamic Terrorism....again

truthatallcost said:

(I can't embed the video into a comment, so here is a link to it)https://mobile.twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/1005366851872800768/video/1Have no doubt, the Israeli government are fans of radical Islamic terrorism groups like ISIS & Al Qaeda. This video shows the IDF's spokesman to the Arab world praising Salafi Wahhabist Islam (the radical, pro-jihad branch of Islam that Osama bin Laden, the Muslim Brotherhood, and ISIS belong to), in an attempt to stoke tensions amongst Sunni Muslims allied with Hamas, who the spokesman accuses of acting like Shi'a Muslims. The IDF recently produced a video in Arabic, to be disseminated to Sunni Muslims, that was translated into English by Arab speakers (oopsie). Here is the English translation of just one of his quotes from the video:"As the enlightened Salafi scholar Imam Mohammed Abd al-Wahab has warned you of the threat that these people (Shi'a) hold against the Islamic religion through the heresies that they follow."Mohammed Abd al-Wahab founded the ultraconservative Wahhabi movement, which bears his name. Most of the Islamic terrorist attacks committed in United States were done by followers of Wahhabi Islam, including 9/11. Who is this IDF clown who praises the Imam responsible for giving the world Osama bin Laden?Avichay Adraee (Hebrew: אביחי אדרעי, Arabic: أفيحاي أدرعي; born in 1982) is a major in the Israel Defense Forces who serves as the head of the Arab media division of the IDF Spokesperson's Unit. As a result of his position, he receives extensive exposure in the Arab media and is known throughout the Arab world. His is of Syrian Jewish, Iraqi Jewish, and Turkish Jewish descent.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avichay_AdraeeIsrael is not interested in promoting peace. That is a bit of disinformation that has been largely promoted by sympathetic supporters of Israel in the United States.

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HowardBThiname said:

The man makes excellent points about Iran.

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However, I'd be surprised if he were IDF, despite the uniform.

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DaveFagan said:

Is this just a secondary effect of the Zionist's new "bromance" with Sauai Arabia. An attempted wedge feeding the animosity bertween Shia and Shiite.?????/

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truthatallcost said:

I think this is just the latest of Israel's many deception campaigns, designed to get others to do the fighting Israel prefers to outsource. In another era, the Israelis would have staged a terror attack against Sunni Muslims, and orchestrated it to look like the Iranians did it. Similar to the King David Hotel Bombing in Egypt, where Israel killed 91 people, and almost got away with blaming the attack on those pesky Arab terrorists, but luckily were caught.

Nowadays, they have to be a little more clever in how they manipulate people.

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truthatallcost said:

I think this is just the latest of Israel's many deception campaigns, designed to get others to do the fighting Israel prefers to outsource. In another era, the Israelis would have staged a terror attack against Sunni Muslims, and orchestrated it to look like the Iranians did it. Similar to the King David Hotel Bombing in Egypt, where Israel killed 91 people, and almost got away with blaming the attack on those pesky Arab terrorists, but luckily were caught.

Nowadays, they have to be a little more clever in how they manipulate people.

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Apocalypse said:

The bombing was done by the Irgun, Israel didn't exist at that time. It wasn't in Egypt it was in Jerusalem under British control.

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This ignorance is so amazing really. I'm not even trying to make sense anymore of this bizarre crusade against Jews posting countless of hysterical and nonsensical antisemitic bullcrap in this subforum, it's clear that your knowledge of the reality and history of Jewish related topics begins and ends with what is described in books like Mein Kampf.

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There's nothing wrong in the video described in the OP. The founder of a branch of a major religion no matter how divisive it became is not a terrorist no more than the founder of the other branches of Islam. What some who follow that branch chose to do is a completely different subject.

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Fledermaus said:

Your take on the King David bombing is pure revisionist BS.

As noted the location and the perpetrators are wrong. Add to that, keeping with Irgun tradition they called ahead and warned the Hotel only to be ignored. Add to that they didn't blame the Arabs...

Your is pure Stormfront material.

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truthatallcost said:

Wikipedia is Stormfront now?

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truthatallcost said:

How about this Maus- all of the people living in America who value Israel's wellbeing over the USA's can take their birth right trip to the promised land? Deal? No return plane tickets.

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truthatallcost said:

You're right, my mistake. I mistakenly attributed the location of the Lavon Affair terror plot with the King David Hotel attack.

As part of the false flag operation, a group of Egyptian Jews were recruited by Israeli military intelligence to plant bombs inside Egyptian, American, and British-owned civilian targets, cinemas, libraries and American educational centers. The bombs were timed to detonate several hours after closing time. The attacks were to be blamed on the Muslim Brotherhood, Egyptian Communists, "unspecified malcontents" or "local nationalists" with the aim of creating a climate of sufficient violence and instability to induce the British government to retain its occupying troops in Egypt's Suez Canal zone.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair

Irgun was absorbed into the IDF, so I'm not really inclined to believe that their Hamas-styled terrorist activities Irgun engaged in were really shunned by anyone involved in the formation of Israel. Irgun seems to have been endorsed by Israel's founders.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irgun



Get a grip man. I merely had a lapse in memory, where I accidentally mixed up details from Israel's false flag terror operations. Its very predictable that you'd invoke such terms as 'Mein Kampf' and 'antisemitism' at the mention of Israel's terrorists, isn't it? :lol: Very predictable.



You're just attempting to further the propaganda that Major Adraee based his message on. Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab is not someone who should be praised, and if you really know anything about him, then you're completely lying to me by saying it's appropriate to honor him.

"According to author Dore Gold, in Kitab al-Tawhid, Ibn Abd al-Wahhab described followers of both the Christian and Jewish faiths as sorcerers who believed in devil worship, and cited a hadith of Muhammad stating that punishment for the sorcerer is `that he be struck with the sword.`

According to Wahhab's own beliefs, you and I should be "struck with the sword" for being 'sorcerers'. Is it any wonder that Wahhab's writings have produced terrorists like Osama bin Laden and IS? Go ahead and offer kind words for Wahhab, it only elucidates your mentality.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_ibn_Abd_al-Wahhab

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Fledermaus said:

WTH are you babbling about?



How about this. Try getting it right instead of getting it Stormfront.

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Fledermaus said:

Some things you left off (not surprising)

The operation ultimately became known as the Lavon affair after the Israeli defense minister Pinhas Lavon was forced to resign as a consequence of the incident.


The bombs were timed to detonate several hours after closing time.

The operation caused no casualties among the population, but did cost the lives of four operatives: two cell members who committed suicide after being captured; and two operatives who were tried, convicted, and executed by Egypt.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

So, you have rehashed history over half a century old.

Now what?

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truthatallcost said:

You're the one who practically soiled himself over mention of Israel's false flag terrorism, so don't expect me to believe you really see no significance.

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truthatallcost said:

Disguised as Arab workmen and as hotel waiters, members of the Irgun planted a bomb in the basement of the main building of the hotel, whose southern wing housed the Mandate Secretariat and a few offices of the British military headquarters. The resulting explosion caused the collapse of the western half of the southern wing of the hotel. Some of the inflicted deaths and injuries occurred in the road outside the hotel and in adjacent buildings.

The Irgun sent warnings by telephone, including one to the hotel's own switchboard, which, possibly because hoax bomb warnings were rife at the time, the staff decided to ignore, but none directly to the British authorities.

What about this are you disputing?

Since the bombing, much controversy has ensued over the issues of when warnings were sent and how the British authorities responded. Irgun representatives have always stated that the warning was given well in advance of the explosion, so that adequate time was available to evacuate the hotel. Menachem Begin, for example, wrote that the telephone message was delivered 25–27 minutes before the explosion.

Recognize the deflection tactic here? The Jewish terrorists blamed their dead victims for their own deaths. It's always their fault that they died, which is a tactic Israel still uses today, like after IDF soldiers shot an unarmed young girl through the heart last month.

Begin claimed in his memoirs that the British had deliberately not evacuated so that they could vilify the Jewish militant groups.

It's ALWAYS someone else's fault. Unless you want to be labeled a bigot, you'll agree with that idea.

At the time of the explosion, Chief Secretary, Sir John Shaw was in his office, which was in the eastern half of the south wing, rather than the destroyed western half. Jewish militant organisations sought to shift the blame to Shaw for the deaths.

Blame the dead for dying, and shift blame to anyone else besides the murderers. Such as when the IDF wastes a child, and blames the parents.

In July 2006, the Menachem Begin Heritage Center organized a conference to mark the 60th anniversary of the bombing. The conference was attended by past and future Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and former members of Irgun. A plaque commemorating the bombing was unveiled, stating "For reasons known only to the British, the hotel was not evacuated." The British Ambassador in Tel Aviv and the Consul-General in Jerusalem protested, saying "We do not think that it is right for an act of terrorism, which led to the loss of many lives, to be commemorated", and wrote to the Mayor of Jerusalem that such an act of terror could not be honoured, even if it was preceded by a warning.

Modern Israelis clearly celebrate the hotel bombing today. There's no sense in pretending that Irgun was just a small terrorist organization that isn't reflective of Israelis as a whole, when Israel has dedicated a historical marker to the massacre, and the Prime Minister attended the unveiling, is there?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing

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Fledermaus said:

And did any of this counter what I wrote?

No.

Warnings were issued.

Disguise was used by the Irgun to gain access, but they admitted to the attack.

Kinda defeats the purpose of a false flag if you admit to it...

Derp.

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Fledermaus said:

Your recounting of half century old acts is noted.

Now what?

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truthatallcost said:

Half century old? But they're still celebrating their clever terrorism that they almost successfully blamed on the Muslim Brotherhood.

Modern Israelis clearly celebrate the hotel bombing today. There's no sense in pretending that Irgun was just a small terrorist organization that isn't reflective of Israelis as a whole, when Israel has dedicated a historical marker to the massacre, and the Prime Minister attended the unveiling, is there?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/King..._Hotel_bombing

Did you happen to see that part?

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truthatallcost said:

Oh, brilliant. So if I leave you a voice message of me saying I'm going to burglarize your house, but you don't respond to it in time and I steal everything you own, then I'm off the hook. Cool.

As for the Arab disguises...hmm, I wonder if the Israelis think we'll ever wise up to that ruse...ya think?....

Nah, probably not!

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Fledermaus said:

Yes.

They celebrated the events of seventy years ago....

Do we not celebrate our revolution and our destruction of the Kings tea?

You remember how we celebrate a terrorist attack in which we disguised ourselves as Native Americans....

Right?

BTW - THE KING DAVID BOMBING WASN'T BLAMED ON THE MUSLIMS....

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Fledermaus said:

Did or did not the Irgun transmit warnings?

Did.

Did or did not the Irgun take responsibility for the bombing?

Did.

Kinda stupid calling it a "false flag" when the Irgun admits to it.

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truthatallcost said:

Wow, so now you're conflating the destruction of tea with a terrorist attack that killed 91 people. Not only that, but you're willing to describe tea chests being thrown into the water as a 'terrorist attack' in order to attempt this absurd comparison. You may be interested to know that American historians refer to the Boston Tea Party as a 'protest', not a terrorist attack. No one died during the protest.

May I ask why you're so willing to throw everyone under the bus in your defense of Israel?

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truthatallcost said:

As recently as 2006, Israel maintained that the deaths were Britain's fault. In fact, that's the message Israel chose to convey on the historical marker for the King David Hotel. A rational thinking person cannot fathom the narcissistic mentality that would pin blame for a terrorist attack on the victims of the attack. But that's the kind of mentality I find myself frequently encountering when speaking to those who support Israel regardless of what they do.

Only an ardent nationalist would defend the most egregious misdeeds of their country, when those misdeeds involved the killing and suffering of people solely for territorial gain. Americans who would never think of condoning the American government's killing of Native Americans, mindlessly act as Israeli nationalists, even going so far as to admire Israel's terrorism against Americans and Brits.
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The Irgun gained legitimacy when they were absorbed into the IDF in 1948, only a short time after the King David Bombing. This would be similar to the US Army allowing the KKK to join en masse.

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truthatallcost said:

As recently as 2006, Israel maintained that the deaths were Britain's fault. In fact, that's the message Israel chose to convey on the historical marker for the King David Hotel. A rational thinking person cannot fathom the narcissistic mentality that would pin blame for a terrorist attack on the victims of the attack. But that's the kind of mentality I find myself frequently encountering when speaking to those who support Israel regardless of what they do.

Only an ardent nationalist would defend the most egregious misdeeds of their country, when those misdeeds involved the killing and suffering of people solely for territorial gain. Americans who would never think of condoning the American government's killing of Native Americans, mindlessly act as Israeli nationalists, even going so far as to admire Israel's terrorism against Americans and Brits.
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The Irgun gained legitimacy when they were absorbed into the IDF in 1948, only a short time after the King David Bombing. This would be similar to the US Army allowing the KKK to join en masse.

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truthatallcost said:

Wow, so now you're conflating the destruction of tea with a terrorist attack that killed 91 people. Not only that, but you're willing to describe tea chests being thrown into the water as a 'terrorist attack' in order to attempt this absurd comparison. You may be interested to know that American historians refer to the Boston Tea Party as a 'protest', not a terrorist attack. No one died during the protest.

May I ask why you're so willing to throw everyone under the bus in your defense of Israel?

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