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Syria war: At least 70 killed in suspected chemical attack in Douma

Thats interesting. So as long as Assad slaughters his people the old fashioned way, with tanks and bombs, he can run up the number of dead and injured as high as he wants and you dont give a crap. But kill a few dozen with a chemical weapon and now you suddenly care and want the US to prepare for WWIII. Brilliant.

Uh....no, actually, I've been against Assad slaughtering people for longer than I've been on this board. You can easily look that up if you really feel a burning urge.

And yes, that international community does seem to think that as long as Assad commits mass murder the same old way it's a-ok.

I'll give you a hint-- despite the hysterics, not rolling over and being Putin's lapdog like you conservatives so desperately want does not automatically mean "World War III".

But hey, keep making excuses for why gassing civilians ain't so bad.
 
Of course he does. The last thing he wants is an international coalition to decide to toss him out of power. As of now he's managed to more or less coast on the fact that ISIS is worse than he is, but continued use of gas on civilians could finally motivated countries to intervene in force. There's only so much the Russians can do to protect him.

Special Forces and air power seem to be doing a good job at destroying ISIS; they'll do the same if we ever do decide to get rid of Assad's WMDs one way or another.

Lol, international coalition. You cant name me one country that wants to go into Syria and fight the Russian and Iranian backed Syrian forces. Not one. Including ours. OUr mission in Syria is to destroy ISIS, not topple Assad. He is staying and there is nothing we can or will do about it.
 
Uh....no, actually, I've been against Assad slaughtering people for longer than I've been on this board. You can easily look that up if you really feel a burning urge.

And yes, that international community does seem to think that as long as Assad commits mass murder the same old way it's a-ok.

I'll give you a hint-- despite the hysterics, not rolling over and being Putin's lapdog like you conservatives so desperately want does not automatically mean "World War III".

But hey, keep making excuses for why gassing civilians ain't so bad.

I didnt say it wasnt bad. I said there is nothing we can do about it. And nothing we are going to do about it. And nothing the world is going to do about it. So you can beat your chest all you want. Assad is staying and we are leaving.
 
Is it? Why? If you dont know what should be done, how can you be certain that doing nothing is the wrong thing? Sounds to me like you just want to criticize Trump because you hate the man, not because you actually have any real solutions to what you see as a problem.

He is the one along with our military who is tasked with finding solutions, not us, sis.
 
He is the one along with our military who is tasked with finding solutions, not us, sis.

No kidding. I thought there might be some substance behind your criticism though. My mistake.
 
Lol, international coalition. You cant name me one country that wants to go into Syria and fight the Russian and Iranian backed Syrian forces. Not one. Including ours. OUr mission in Syria is to destroy ISIS, not topple Assad. He is staying and there is nothing we can or will do about it.

GW Bush accomplished destabilizing the entire ****ing ME with his ****ty Iraq War; let him & his ****ing family go to Syria & fight his little ISIS buddies ............ maybe send that asshole prick Eric Prince & his private **** sucking army of mercs over there, if they have the balls ............
 
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GW Bush accomplished destabilizing the entire ****ing ME with his hitty Iraq War; let him & his ****ing family go to Syria & fight his little ISIS buddies ............ maybe send that asshole prick Eric Prince & his private **** sucking army of mercs over there, if they have the balls ............

Whatever you say............
 
Whatever you say............

just in case you haven't been paying attention, which is pretty obvious, Bush desatbilzed the entire ME by deposing Saddam with the ****ty 2003 GW Bush Iraq War.

Bush is a war criminal; too bad he is not wasting away in some filthy prison cell but the fact remains that since Saddam was removed the entire ME has gone completely to Hell; why?

Bush wanted those people to have FREEDOM; well, this is what freedom looks like but do NOT involve my tax dollars & US troops in a cluster**** that we have no business in ........
 
just in case you haven't been paying attention, which is pretty obvious, Bush desatbilzed the entire ME by deposing Saddam with the ****ty 2003 GW Bush Iraq War.

Bush is a war criminal; too bad he is not wasting away in some filthy prison cell but the fact remains that since Saddam was removed the entire ME has gone completely to Hell; why?

Bush wanted those people to have FREEDOM; well, this is what freedom looks like but do NOT involve my tax dollars & US troops in a cluster**** that we have no business in ........

Whatever you say.............
 
Didnt take long for you to resort to trolling now did it. But I guess when thats the only card you got, you play it.

Read McCains comments he made today, honey pot.
 
Lol, international coalition. You cant name me one country that wants to go into Syria and fight the Russian and Iranian backed Syrian forces. Not one. Including ours. OUr mission in Syria is to destroy ISIS, not topple Assad. He is staying and there is nothing we can or will do about it.

The Kurds will be glad to help us like they have against ISIS. He cannot be allowed to remain in power.
 
Lol, international coalition. You cant name me one country that wants to go into Syria and fight the Russian and Iranian backed Syrian forces. Not one. Including ours. OUr mission in Syria is to destroy ISIS, not topple Assad. He is staying and there is nothing we can or will do about it.

Lol, I hate to break it to you but enough atrocities can turn any public against a regime, especially when that regime is throwing around chemical weapons like confetti.

Oh, there's plenty we could do. If we really wanted to neither the Russians nor the Iranians would have a chance at stopping us from tossing Assad out of power. The question is "will we?" and the answer to that is too early to tell
 
I didnt say it wasnt bad. I said there is nothing we can do about it. And nothing we are going to do about it. And nothing the world is going to do about it. So you can beat your chest all you want. Assad is staying and we are leaving.

And again, there is plenty we could do if we wished, but your fervent wishes that no one will do anything about Assad's violations of international law, well.....we'll just have to wait and see.
 
The Kurds will be glad to help us like they have against ISIS. He cannot be allowed to remain in power.

Maybe so, but toppling Assad will take far more troops than the 2000 we have there now. Are you prepared for an all out war against Assad, the Russians and the Iranians so that we can control the rubble pile that is Syria? im not.
 
And again, there is plenty we could do if we wished, but your fervent wishes that no one will do anything about Assad's violations of international law, well.....we'll just have to wait and see.

Trump may act, but thats it. No other world power will lift a finger. Nobody cares about Syria or the Syrian people. Nobody wants to get involved. That has been true for 5 years now.
 
Lol, I hate to break it to you but enough atrocities can turn any public against a regime, especially when that regime is throwing around chemical weapons like confetti.

Oh, there's plenty we could do. If we really wanted to neither the Russians nor the Iranians would have a chance at stopping us from tossing Assad out of power. The question is "will we?" and the answer to that is too early to tell

There is ZERO will in this country or in congress for the US to launch an invasion force to overthrow Assad. Z.E.R.O.
 
Trump may act, but thats it. No other world power will lift a finger. Nobody cares about Syria or the Syrian people. Nobody wants to get involved. That has been true for 5 years now.

Considering the fact that Trump has stumbled his way into the presidency, him acting is no small thing. Depends on what you consider a "world power" nowadays. China and Russia obviously wont stop Assad, but if Trump ever pulled his head out of his hindquarters he could certainly get air support at least from numerous American allies.

Well, other than those countries taking in refugees...and fighting ISIS.....and the international aid groups.....and the UN....other than all those people, nobody cares, I suppose.
 
There is ZERO will in this country or in congress for the US to launch an invasion force to overthrow Assad. Z.E.R.O.

We'll see if that holds true down the line, especially once Assad keeps gassing his own people. Nothing is dumber or more vicious than a dictator who got away with an atrocity once---or, in this case, multiple times.
 
Inform the Assad regime that the next use of weapons of mass destruction— i.e. chemical weapons—-will be responded to with US use of our own weapons of mass destruction to annihilate his stockpile.

The reason why Saddam didn’t use his chemical weapons during Iraqi Freedom was due to the fact that he knew Baghdad would go up in smoke if he did so.

Tigerace117:

Perhaps you're having a bad day and spoke impetuously or perhaps you really meant what you said as quoted above. I don't know.

Some questions for you, given your above stated desire to use WMDs against suspected stores of Syrian WMDs in response to alleged strikes by the Assad Regime by initiating US attacks of reprisal against a state with which you are not at war:

First, assuming for the moment that the Assad Regime has in its possession chemical WMDs, other than industrial-grade chlorine, would the regime be stupid enough to concentrate such weapons in targetable stockpiles or would it disperse such weapons in smaller caches where they will be hard to hit? Would it place those stockpiles or caches where foreign weapon systems could reach them without doing horrendous collateral damage to innocent Syrians, other internationals communities and Russians in Syria? Keep in mind those would be suspected caches and stockpiles. What happens if you are conned and hit dummy caches intentionally placed to trick foreign states willing to use force and to discredit them by doing great damage to civilian populations? Remember, you're not at war with Syria.

What do you do if American planners find that suspected stockpile or cache sites are near Russian personnel or either Russian military or civilian infrastructure? Are you willing to risk starting a war with the world's second most powerful nuclear-armed state and to have been the power of record to first-strike using NBC weapons?

So you are saying that it is not acceptable for the Syrian Regime to use WMDs in war but it is acceptable for the United States and possibly its allies to do so? How exceptional of you. Furthermore is it acceptable to launch pre-emptive first-strikes at allied Russian air-defence and anti-access systems located in Syria, which could interfere with and threaten US target acquisition and strike efforts?

Finally, are you reckless enough to gamble away all of our lives along with your own by possibly starting a global thermonuclear war with Russia? You declaim and condemn the Chinese and Russians for the death tolls they racked up in the 20th Century. Are you personally willing to top the list of mass killers in the 21st Century? Every villan is a hero in his or her own mind and does what he/she thinks is right in working their ruinous schemes. Are you willing to be Stalin117 or Mao117 and trigger the possible end of human civilisation and the deaths of billions?

There are limits to US military power, despite the might of the US Armed Forces, and both humility and caution rather than reckless brinksmanship and vain-glory are needed at times like this.

Cheers?
Evilroddy?
 
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