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Trump to attempt to broker peace between Israel & Palestine

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President Trump has already hosted Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu in DC, and now plans to meet Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, who arrived in Washington D.C. on May Day.
President Trump says there is “no reason” Israelis and Palestinians cannot end their longstanding animosity.

“I want to see peace with Israel and the Palestinians,” Trump told Reuters Thursday. "There is no reason there’s not peace between Israel and the Palestinians — none whatsoever.”

Trump has tasked his son-in-law and senior adviser, Jared Kushner, with the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, but no new peace talks have been announced.

Trump: 'No reason there?s not peace between Israel and the Palestinians' | TheHill
This lofty ambition from Art of the Deal author Donald J. Trump, the one that said he'd replace ACA / Obamacare with something cheaper and better within his first 100 days.
“Nobody knew that healthcare could be so complicated.” President Trump
Yet another failure for the nascent Trump administration.
"We will have so much winning if I get elected, that you may get bored with winning." Republican leading presidential candidate Donald Trump - September, 2015
Not shy to expose his ignorance:
Trump told Reuters Thursday. "There is no reason there’s not peace between Israel and the Palestinians — none whatsoever.”

Trump: 'No reason there?s not peace between Israel and the Palestinians' | TheHill
There are multiple reasons, not least the bad blood, the hostility, bloodshed, and oppression between them for generations.

But perhaps Netanyahu needs no reason more to avoid locking Israel into a peace deal than that currently, Israel is steadily expanding into land claimed by Palestinians.
Netanyahu is building settlements there as fast as he can, despite protests from the U.S. & U.N.

A peace deal would likely put a halt to that Israel expansion / Palestine reduction. It's a trend Netanyahu is very eager to sustain.
Trump told Reuters Thursday. "There is no reason there’s not peace between Israel and the Palestinians — none whatsoever.”
It's not gunna happen during the Trump administration the Donald; not if your presidential term is limited to 8 years.

Q:
What's the difference between a chick pea, and a garbanzo bean?

A:
Donald Trump never had a garbanzo bean on his face.
 
So many Doubting Thomas's bring up trifling details instead of accepting The Donald's incredible ability to negotiate the impossible. After all, he did seek and succeed at becoming POTUS.

This past week he has tuned in and channeled our 7th President, Andrew Jackson. Picture the soon-to-be seance with Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu, Palestinian President Abbas, Melania, Donald, Ivanka, Jared, and the spirit of Andrew Jackson.

When the Palestinians and Israelis join together in peace and unity, the World can no longer deny the Greatness of Donald John Trump. You just wait and see.... NOT!
 
President Trump has already hosted Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu in DC, and now plans to meet Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, who arrived in Washington D.C. on May Day.

This lofty ambition from Art of the Deal author Donald J. Trump, the one that said he'd replace ACA / Obamacare with something cheaper and better within his first 100 days.

Yet another failure for the nascent Trump administration.

Not shy to expose his ignorance:

There are multiple reasons, not least the bad blood, the hostility, bloodshed, and oppression between them for generations.

But perhaps Netanyahu needs no reason more to avoid locking Israel into a peace deal than that currently, Israel is steadily expanding into land claimed by Palestinians.
Netanyahu is building settlements there as fast as he can, despite protests from the U.S. & U.N.

A peace deal would likely put a halt to that Israel expansion / Palestine reduction. It's a trend Netanyahu is very eager to sustain.

It's not gunna happen during the Trump administration the Donald; not if your presidential term is limited to 8 years.

Q:
What's the difference between a chick pea, and a garbanzo bean?

A:
Donald Trump never had a garbanzo bean on his face.

All Presidents that tried have failed to broker peace between Israel and PLO/Hamas. There will never be peace as long as Israels right to exist is ignored.
 
TT #2

Alright.

But does he know no shame? He didn't know being president would be so hard?!

Trump failed dismally on healthcare, and the wall, etc., but he thinks he can succeed with peace between the Israelis & Palestinians ?! 44a259045d6bc18697b7bc4ddaaf002acfc7ea0.gif

This guy is a DOPE !!

And btw:

Considering the Israeli tilt to the Trump administration, his son in law for obvious example,

if you were Palestinian peace negotiators, would you accept the Trump administration as honest, objective, unbiased peace brokers?

I don't THINK so!
 
PS

Please pardon me H4. I didn't mean to ignore you; we just posted at nearly the same time (and our post-counters are nearly synchronized).
"All Presidents that tried have failed to broker peace between Israel and PLO/Hamas. There will never be peace as long as Israels right to exist is ignored." H4
You know that.
I know that.
The president of the United States does not ?!
 
PS

Please pardon me H4. I didn't mean to ignore you; we just posted at nearly the same time (and our post-counters are nearly synchronized).

You know that.
I know that.
The president of the United States does not ?!

Past Presidents have known that yet they tried anyway, shouldn't they be criticized for failing ??

In reality all any President can do is bring the parties to the table. It's up to them what the terms of the peace will be. Without Israels right to exist all negotiations will fail.
 
"Did Obama even try? Or Bush?" W #6
Netanyahu was deliberately, publicly rude and contemptuous to President Obama for 8 years.
Further, President Obama was the president of the United States, not the president of the Middle East.

However much of a twit * Bush is, at least he realized (in some cases) he's got his limits.
"Past Presidents have known that yet they tried anyway, shouldn't they be criticized for failing ??" h4
When I was employed by a Fortune 500, my employment appraisals were based upon "results achieved". They didn't reward me for failed attempts.
"In reality all any President can do is bring the parties to the table. It's up to them what the terms of the peace will be."
Tell that to President Carter.
The U.S. is bribing Egypt & Israel with $Billions to maintain their peace agreement Carter brokered.

Problem is, Trump is such a twit, he thinks he can succeed here.
Do you really think he'd try, if he KNEW he'll fail? I doubt it.
“Nobody knew that healthcare could be so complicated.” President Trump
* "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we," U.S. President Bush ~Aug. 5, 2004
 
He can't even broker a deal for healthcare. What a colossal film flam man
 
President Trump has already hosted Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu in DC, and now plans to meet Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, who arrived in Washington D.C. on May Day.

This lofty ambition from Art of the Deal author Donald J. Trump, the one that said he'd replace ACA / Obamacare with something cheaper and better within his first 100 days.

Yet another failure for the nascent Trump administration.

Not shy to expose his ignorance:

There are multiple reasons, not least the bad blood, the hostility, bloodshed, and oppression between them for generations.

But perhaps Netanyahu needs no reason more to avoid locking Israel into a peace deal than that currently, Israel is steadily expanding into land claimed by Palestinians.
Netanyahu is building settlements there as fast as he can, despite protests from the U.S. & U.N.

A peace deal would likely put a halt to that Israel expansion / Palestine reduction. It's a trend Netanyahu is very eager to sustain.

It's not gunna happen during the Trump administration the Donald; not if your presidential term is limited to 8 years.

Q:
What's the difference between a chick pea, and a garbanzo bean?

A:
Donald Trump never had a garbanzo bean on his face.

I'm not sure the latest memes concocted in the boiler rooms does much more than get the target audience responding as trained.

Given the complex and devious objectives of the players in the Middle East, it's not unreasonable to make every effort to find a way for Israel and the Palestinians to move beyond the death and destruction the anti-Semites are anxious to carry out.
 
I'm not going to fault him for trying. But the guy can't even get his own party on the same page so...
 
Thread: Trump to attempt to broker peace between Israel & Palestine
Skeptic Bob, et al,

I agree with "Skeptic Bob." I can't fault The President for not making an attempt. AND!!! I don't have high expectations for any meaningful success; and cannot blame the Administration if all comes for not.

I'm not going to fault him for trying. But the guy can't even get his own party on the same page so...
(COMMENT)

Much of the inner political aspects of the Palestinian Government (Ramallah & Gaza) is dysfunctional. There are many factions, that demand to be heard --- and --- it's hard to get a consensus as to the color of the sky; let alone on any deeper political development.

One positive observation I am noting is that in the few incidents of significance have been recorded. It would appear that HAMAS is exercising a more enlightened view on the way forward than we've come to know expect from them. That, by itself, is a good sign.

Most Respectfully,
R
 
President Trump has already hosted Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu in DC, and now plans to meet Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, who arrived in Washington D.C. on May Day.

This lofty ambition from Art of the Deal author Donald J. Trump, the one that said he'd replace ACA / Obamacare with something cheaper and better within his first 100 days.

Yet another failure for the nascent Trump administration.

Not shy to expose his ignorance:

There are multiple reasons, not least the bad blood, the hostility, bloodshed, and oppression between them for generations.

But perhaps Netanyahu needs no reason more to avoid locking Israel into a peace deal than that currently, Israel is steadily expanding into land claimed by Palestinians.
Netanyahu is building settlements there as fast as he can, despite protests from the U.S. & U.N.

A peace deal would likely put a halt to that Israel expansion / Palestine reduction. It's a trend Netanyahu is very eager to sustain.

It's not gunna happen during the Trump administration the Donald; not if your presidential term is limited to 8 years.

Q:
What's the difference between a chick pea, and a garbanzo bean?

A:
Donald Trump never had a garbanzo bean on his face.

Soooo...what? He shouldn't even attempt to try and broker a peace deal? Or should he spend a lot of money to get Netanyahu replaced in Israel's next election like Obama tried to do?
 
"Soooo...what? He shouldn't even attempt to try and broker a peace deal? Or should he spend a lot of money to get Netanyahu replaced in Israel's next election like Obama tried to do?" KS #13
"When the picture doesn't make any sense, a piece of the puzzle is missing." psychologist Joy Browne

KS, please don't misinterpret my comment here as an attempted put-down of you. Those of us in good conscience (you, me, and a few hundred million of our closest friends) struggle to make sense of it.

I suspect one of the missing puzzle pieces is, Trump is ruled by his ego.

A guy like California Governor Jerry Brown (both the youngest, and the oldest California governor in history) doesn't try to make a name for himself by curing cancer, or sending a rocket ship to Neptune.
Governor Brown understood that what the electorate wanted was able, responsible, competent governance.
So Governor Brown got California's fiscal house in order (something that Governor Schwarzenegger promised to do, and failed to do).

Trump isn't interested in good governance, balancing the budget; the style of a technocrat.
Trump wants to bomb the $#@! out of ISIL, bring peace to Israel / Palestine, etc.
Problem is, Trump is routinely displaying his ignorance.
“Nobody knew that healthcare could be so complicated.” President Trump
Then why Mr. Trump did you promise to repeal ACA and replace it with something better?
"Soooo...what? He shouldn't even attempt to try and broker a peace deal? Or should he spend a lot of money to get Netanyahu replaced in Israel's next election like Obama tried to do?" KS #13
Define "attempt".

Even if they all go through the motions, it'll come to naught. Netanyahu likes things just the way they are. And the Palestinians have virtually no power, no leverage.

Trump is grandstanding. And it's sad to see that the U.S. has reduced itself to this.

During the presidency of GWB, U.S. was badly tarnished.
Under President Trump, we're becoming the laughing stock of the solar system.
 
Re: Trump to attempt to broker peace between Israel & Palestine
Sear, et al,

You have made a classic mistake here.

If any entity turned the US into the "laughing stock of the solar system," it was NOT (and will not be in all probability) President Trump.


During the presidency of GWB, U.S. was badly tarnished.
Under President Trump, we're becoming the laughing stock of the solar system.

(COMMENT)

The Republican and Democratic Parties have believed for decades that only one of the major political parties has been capable enough to produce a leader with the necessary qualities and characteristics to be The President. And, for more than half a century, these two arrogant political parties believed that the only question that would every be raised was whether Office would be filled by either the (R) or (D). That is broken. Further more, the Republican and Democratic Parties believe that only they set the standard for how a President should look and behave like.

These arrogant ideas are what brought the election to the tipping point. While the Republican and Democratic Parties tend to disregard the outcome of the election, it is indicative of the loss in general public had in the confidence and fidelity with the Republican and Democratic Parties. Americans may not be able to tell you exactly what ails America - politically, economically, industrially, educationally, commercially and in foreign relations, but they can feel it.

Probably on of the most noticeable illness in America is that it is becoming ever more difficult for the middle class to pay for a college education; and yet, when they do manage to graduate, they find they employed at a job that does not fully use one's skills or abilities. College graduates competing for jobs that would normally be filled by a high school graduate. When Americans read that the Top 10 Best Science Jobs in the US in the US News and World Report are: Psychologist, Industrial Psychologist, Epidemiologist/Medical Scientist, Biochemist, Forensic Science Technician, Environmental Science and Protection Technician, Anthropologist, Archaeologist, Geographer, and Survey Researcher. You will notice that in that list, there are no chemical engineers, electrical engineers, physicists, nuclear engineers, electronic design engineers, Aeronautical Engineers, and civil engineers.

IF anyone is going to make America the laughing stock of the solar system, it will probably be either the Republican and Democratic Parties that will attempt to make The President's image that way. The Republican and Democratic Parties put the party first, campaign funding second, and personal image.

How many of you believe that the politicians in the most senior positions in America have Chief among their qualities honesty.


I did not vote for President Trump, BUT, the very best thing that the Republican and Democratic Parties can do today is work in the best interest of the Leadership and the people of the US. Taking potshots at The President is the surest way to "laughing stock of the solar system." We all need to help the White House, not ridicule it.

Most Respectfully,
R
 
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"You have made a classic mistake here.
If any entity turned the US into the "laughing stock of the solar system," it was NOT (and will not be in all probability) President Trump." RR #15
It was a logical fallacy recognized as false even by the ancients that named it: "post hoc ergo propter hoc" (after that, therefore because of that).
The rooster's crow does not cause the sun to rise.

BUT !!

Just because event B follows event A does not prove A causes B.

BUT !!

If event B follows event A, it is not proof that event A did NOT cause event B.
The rooster's crow does not cause the sun to rise.
BUT !!
The sunrise may indeed cause the rooster to crow. -****-a-doodle-doo!-
"If any entity turned the US into the "laughing stock of the solar system," it was NOT (and will not be in all probability) President Trump." RR #15
President Trump does not elevate the hard won prestige of the United States of America.

Trump's 3rd trophy wife has already left him.
He's flip-flopped on too many issues to enumerate.

Before the election Trump published 10 things he'd accomplish his first 100 days in office.
Despite his superlative self-flattery, Trump has not accomplished a single one of those 10 commitments.

Trump's word is worthless. No one trusts him.
And it demonstrates how opposite reputation can be from reality.

President Trump (R-NY) said he'd put coal miners back to work.
The Democrats (D-US), long recognized as champions of the middle-class, champions of the working man, have not held out such false hope.
But it's Trump that gets the credit here, deserved or not. Do you really think President Trump is going to revive the coal industry?!

Global warming address isn't percolating into our culture from the top down; from Washington DC to the electrical outlet through congressional dictates.
It's percolating up from private and corporate initiative in the forms of wind turbine and photo-voltaic arrays, proliferating across the country and around the world.
And they're comprising an ever increasing share of electrical generation in the U.S. not because of U.S. federal government, but despite it.
"If any entity turned the US into the "laughing stock of the solar system," it was NOT (and will not be in all probability) President Trump." RR #15
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Re: Trump to attempt to broker peace between Israel & Palestine
sear, et al,

This is both non-sense and an attack on The President's character; not any outcome The President may have contributed to --- or --- the content of the White House and its product.

It was a logical fallacy recognized as false even by the ancients that named it: "post hoc ergo propter hoc" (after that, therefore because of that).
(COMMENT)

Actually, it is a counter-claim against your statement ("Under President Trump, we're becoming the laughing stock of the solar system."); with a probability attached ("and will not be in all probability").

Your proposition is trying to establish trying to establish the implication that The President was a proximate cause of an allegation not held in evidence.

Trump's 3rd trophy wife has already left him.

(COMMENT)

The President's "third wife" is Melania Trump; and she is the First Lady of the United States. Just because the First Lady happens to be young and attractive, is not a cause for concern pertaining to his leadership potential. Again, is a criticism directed at the person of The President," and not political position he maintains.

He's flip-flopped on too many issues to enumerate.
(COMMENT)

When made aware of new information in context, and it became clear to The President the reasons for wanting to maintain any given position or policy were NOT as good as the reasons for wanting to keep a policy or position; then there is sufficient cause for change. The policy may have made sense in one context, but — NOT in another.

It is not a detractor for The President to make or change policy based on the advice of his staff.

Before the election Trump published 10 things he'd accomplish his first 100 days in office.
Despite his superlative self-flattery, Trump has not accomplished a single one of those 10 commitments.

Trump's word is worthless. No one trusts him.
And it demonstrates how opposite reputation can be from reality.
(COMMENT)

"No one trusts him." My question would be: Is this statement always true at all times, no matter what? "Reputation" What makes you an authority on the beliefs or opinions that are generally held by the domestic population --- or --- external foreign impressions? As I see it, you are an example of a source of negative commentary that has the very impact impact for your complaint.

As for the policy on energy, the greenhouse effect, coal consumption, etc etc etc ... there are varying opinions across the board. Yours is just one of them.

Most Respectfully,
R
 
Re: Trump to attempt to broker peace between Israel & Palestine
→ sear, et al,

"This is both non-sense" RR #17
If President Trump brings peace to the Middle East, you'll see me posting contrition to beat the band.
I hereby formally predict virtual total failure: zero peace treaty between Palestine & Israel during the Trump administration.
“Nobody knew that healthcare could be so complicated.” President Trump

"We will have so much winning if I get elected, that you may get bored with winning." Republican leading presidential candidate Donald Trump - September, 2015
According to CBS-TV News Donald Trump committed to ten major accomplishments he would achieve in his first 100 days as president. According to that same source, he's accomplished a grand total of zero of them.
"and an attack on The President's character" RR #17
"Attack"?
"Report" is probably the more objective word.

BUT !!

I fully understand why you'd use the word "attack". In Trump's case, they're virtual synonyms.
"not any outcome The President may have contributed to --- or --- the content of the White House and its product." RR #17
Correct.
The outcome generally comes last.
So mine is rather more a prediction than a report (or if you prefer "attack").
"Again, is a criticism directed at the person of The President," and not political position he maintains." RR #17
The posted topic title is: Trump to attempt to broker peace between Israel & Palestine

Know it or not, believe it or not, like it or not, admit it or not; personality of a leader can have bearing on the value of that leadership.
Quote Originally Posted by sear View Post
He's flip-flopped on too many issues to enumerate.
(COMMENT)

"When made aware of new information in context, and it became clear to The President the reasons for wanting to maintain any given position or policy were NOT as good as the reasons for wanting to keep a policy or position; then there is sufficient cause for change." RR #17
Splendid. So give the guy a Nobel prize.
Meanwhile your explanation doesn't cover him reversing himself in the same paragraph. Example:
Commenting on Senator John McCain (R-AZ)
"He's not a war hero.
He is a war hero.

He's a war hero because he was captured.
I like people that weren't captured. OK?"
Donald Trump: July 2015 seeking the Republican nomination for the 2016 presidential race
Just what is it you allege became clear to Trump from one sentence to the next, in this case?
"As for the policy on energy, the greenhouse effect, coal consumption, etc etc etc ... there are varying opinions across the board. Yours is just one of them.

Most Respectfully,
R
RR #17
a) I won't dispute that point with you here.

b) My opinion hardly matters.

c) My comment is not an expression of personal opinion, but a report on scientific consensus. That consensus is based upon quantifiable data.
Therefore your "there are varying opinions across the board. Yours is just one of them" dismissal;
your characterizing scientific consensus as personal opinion merely exposes your feeble and impotent determination to dismiss reality, and undermine me. You have failed at both.

Happy Cinco de Mayo.
 
Mideast Peace Starts in Saudi Arabia
Charles Krauthammer, New York Daily News



[FONT=&quot]CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]NEW YORK DAILY NEWS[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Thursday, May 25, 2017, 8:00 PM[/FONT]
“Whom the gods would destroy, they first tempt to resolve the Arab-Israeli conflict.”
— Irving Kristol

The quixotic American pursuit of Middle East peace is a perennial. It invariably fails, yet every administration feels compelled to give it a try. The Trump administration is no different.
It will fail as well. To be sure, no great harm has, as yet, come from President Trump’s enthusiasm for what would be “the ultimate deal.” It will, however, distract and detract from remarkable progress being made elsewhere in the Middle East.
That progress began with Trump’s trip to Saudi Arabia, the first of his presidency — an unmistakable declaration of a radical reorientation of U.S. policy in the region. Message: The appeasement of Iran is over.
Barack Obama’s tilt toward Iran in the great Muslim civil war between Shiite Iran and Sunni Arabs led by Saudi Arabia was his reach for Nixon-to-China glory. It ended ignominiously. . . .
 
RE: Trump to attempt to broker peace between Israel & Palestine
※→ et al,

Given the track record in the Region, I have to admit that the probability of an accord leading to a Peace Treaty is pretty poor.

Mideast Peace Starts in Saudi Arabia
Charles Krauthammer, New York Daily News

[FONT="][B][URL="http://www.nydailynews.com/authors?author=Charles-Krauthammer"]CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER[/URL][/B][/FONT]
[FONT="]NEW YORK DAILY NEWS[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#999999][FONT="]Thursday, May 25, 2017, 8:00 PM[/FONT]

“Whom the gods would destroy, they first tempt to resolve the Arab-Israeli conflict.”
— Irving Kristol

The quixotic American pursuit of Middle East peace is a perennial. It invariably fails, yet every administration feels compelled to give it a try. The Trump administration is no different.
It will fail as well. To be sure, no great harm has, as yet, come from President Trump’s enthusiasm for what would be “the ultimate deal.” It will, however, distract and detract from remarkable progress being made elsewhere in the Middle East.
That progress began with Trump’s trip to Saudi Arabia, the first of his presidency — an unmistakable declaration of a radical reorientation of U.S. policy in the region. Message: The appeasement of Iran is over.
Barack Obama’s tilt toward Iran in the great Muslim civil war between Shiite Iran and Sunni Arabs led by Saudi Arabia was his reach for Nixon-to-China glory. It ended ignominiously. . . .
(COMMENT)

The US needs to keep its mouth shut. Our Foreign Service is not capable of dealing with these kinds of situations. Whether we talk about Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, or Yemen (as examples), we have not learned our lesson.

We need to back away from these types of conflicts and insurgencies. In the case of the Israeli 'vs' Palestinian, we need to maintain our distance and honor our commitment to the Israelis. But we should not be sticking our fingers in the Peace Brokering business. These people have been spilling blood in that Region since before the Crusades And when the Muslims don't have anyone to fight with, they start fighting among themselves (Sunni 'vs' Shia). The Arab People in this Region are as barbaric today as they were before Saladin; chopping peoples heads off, burning people alive, and stoning women to death. We need to keep our distance; but understand that if we engage, we have to fight them on their level.

There are few areas in the region that, in support of one side or the other, the Arabs are consistently organizing, instigating, facilitating, participating in, financing, encouraging or tolerating Jihadism, Deadly Fedayeen Action, Hostile Insurgency Operations, Radicalized Islamic Behaviors, and Asymmetric Violence. We need to be very cautious with who we deal with; especial in the environment where helping a people, sect, tribe or culture today will turnout to be our enemy tomorrow. We will be burned if we do and burned if we don't. The fable of the Good Samaritan simply doesn't work there.

A novice like President Trump should stay out of the sandbox. It is unlikely that any good can come of it.

Just My Thought,

Most Respectfully,
R
 
RE: Trump to attempt to broker peace between Israel & Palestine
※→ et al,

Given the track record in the Region, I have to admit that the probability of an accord leading to a Peace Treaty is pretty poor.


(COMMENT)

The US needs to keep its mouth shut. Our Foreign Service is not capable of dealing with these kinds of situations. Whether we talk about Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, or Yemen (as examples), we have not learned our lesson.

We need to back away from these types of conflicts and insurgencies. In the case of the Israeli 'vs' Palestinian, we need to maintain our distance and honor our commitment to the Israelis. But we should not be sticking our fingers in the Peace Brokering business. These people have been spilling blood in that Region since before the Crusades And when the Muslims don't have anyone to fight with, they start fighting among themselves (Sunni 'vs' Shia). The Arab People in this Region are as barbaric today as they were before Saladin; chopping peoples heads off, burning people alive, and stoning women to death. We need to keep our distance; but understand that if we engage, we have to fight them on their level.

There are few areas in the region that, in support of one side or the other, the Arabs are consistently organizing, instigating, facilitating, participating in, financing, encouraging or tolerating Jihadism, Deadly Fedayeen Action, Hostile Insurgency Operations, Radicalized Islamic Behaviors, and Asymmetric Violence. We need to be very cautious with who we deal with; especial in the environment where helping a people, sect, tribe or culture today will turnout to be our enemy tomorrow. We will be burned if we do and burned if we don't. The fable of the Good Samaritan simply doesn't work there.

A novice like President Trump should stay out of the sandbox. It is unlikely that any good can come of it.

Just My Thought,

Most Respectfully,
R

I doubt he will stay out, so we shall see.
 
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