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Elites Are Giddy Over Trump’s Airstrike in Syria, and That’s Terrifying

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Elites Are Giddy Over Trump’s Airstrike in Syria, and That’s Terrifying

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But the pathetic plaudits Trump received Thursday night for the airstrike he ordered against Bashar al-Assad's regime in Syria should serve as a reminder of how capable Trump remains of regaining the narrative of his faltering presidency—and why a relatively “normal” Trump administration may be even scarier than the cartoonishly villainous one we’ve seen up until now.

As we saw following Trump’s first address to Congress, the president is so nightmarish that some of us who observe him are desperate to forget who precisely America elected and are forever hoping he can change. This can manifest itself consciously or unconsciously. It began Thursday, before the strike, when Hillary Clinton said she believed the United States should take out Assad's airfields. That would have been a more plausible suggestion in a different universe than the one we live in—a universe in which a bigoted, Muslim-hating, and incompetent man wasn't the commander in chief of the United States armed forces. It continued throughout the afternoon and evening as the missile strike launched and Trump received heavy praise on cable news. Fareed Zakaria said on CNN that this airstrike was the moment Trump had "[become] president." Not only was this nonsense a near-repeat of what Van Jones had said on CNN following Trump's speech to Congress, but it ignored January’s botched Yemen raid, a military action that Trump ordered. (For what it's worth, the United States is already engaged in combat in Iraq and Syria with some of the groups fighting Assad.)

But Trump is not—and will never be—a normal president. He is an uninformed and dangerously unstable one. If he wants to conduct military action without congressional approval, he should be challenged, not lauded. The prospect of someone with Trump's limited focus and understanding immersing the United States more deeply in another foreign conflict is unnerving—especially when that conflict is taking place in a region that predominantly practices a religion Trump despises.


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Who are the "elites"?
Why speak in code? Just tell us who you are talking about.

I don't mean to single you out... but why use the term instead of being specific? It just comes off as rhetoric when you use the word "elites".
 
Who are the "elites"?
Why speak in code? Just tell us who you are talking about.

I don't mean to single you out... but why use the term instead of being specific? It just comes off as rhetoric when you use the word "elites".

Wall Street. The Superclass. The Ultra-Wealthy. The Top One-Tenth of the One-Percent. The primary accomplices of the neo-fascist Military-Industrialists of Corporate America.

Bernie tried to warn us.
 
Wall Street. The Superclass. The Ultra-Wealthy. The Top One-Tenth of the One-Percent. The primary accomplices of the neo-fascist Military-Industrialists of Corporate America.

Bernie tried to warn us.

Right on. I agree.
But there seem to be a lot of definitions for the word "elites" anymore. It's a dog whistle for a few different species...
 
Wall Street. The Superclass. The Ultra-Wealthy. The Top One-Tenth of the One-Percent. The primary accomplices of the neo-fascist Military-Industrialists of Corporate America.

So, no one here. Yet there's overwhelming support here from dems, repubs, independents, moderates and others.

There will probably be an uptick in his approval rating. Are the elites responsible for that too?
 
So, no one here.

Wrong. Start a call-out thread so I can address the members in question properly. The rest of your post falls apart as it hinges upon this (incorrect) assumption and derails my thread.
 
Wrong. Start a basement call-out thread so I can address the members in question properly. The rest of your post falls apart as it hinges upon this (incorrect) assumption and derails my thread.

No need. I've been here awhile. There is a handful, at most (I can only think of two), members of considerable wealth, neither are the top .1%.

Assad is a terrorist. He is gassing his own people to maintain a monarchic dictatorship.

The overwhelming support here, from every political lean, is entirely from the middle and lower class. The public overwhelmingly supports the strike because we want action taken against the use of chemical weapons.
 
No need. I've been here awhile. There is a handful, at most (I can only think of two), members of considerable wealth, neither are the top .1%.

-snip-

Re-read my post you quoted:

Wall Street. The Superclass. The Ultra-Wealthy. The Top One-Tenth of the One-Percent. The primary accomplices of the neo-fascist Military-Industrialists of Corporate America.

Underlined portion defined:

mid 16th century: alteration (probably by association with accompany) of Middle English complice ‘an associate,’ via Old French from late Latin complex, complic- ‘allied,’ from com- ‘together’ + the root of plicare ‘to fold.’

In other words, not only those that actively assist, but those that vocally support said atrocities.
 
Re-read my post you quoted:

Underlined portion defined:

In other words, not only those that actively assist, but those that vocally support said atrocities.

So, no one here. And the vast majority of members here support the strike.
 
So, no one here. And the vast majority of members here support the strike.

Argumentum ad populum - logical fallacy appealing to majority. "No one here"? Are you even reading my posts?

No. You're not.
 
Argumentum ad populum - logical fallacy appealing to majority. "No one here"? Are you even reading my posts?

No. You're not.

The elite supporting the strike is irrelevant because virtually everyone does.
 
Wall Street. The Superclass. The Ultra-Wealthy. The Top One-Tenth of the One-Percent. The primary accomplices of the neo-fascist Military-Industrialists of Corporate America.

Bernie tried to warn us.
Hard to argue, there.
 
Apparently, you don't understand what a logical ****ing fallacy is, either.

You don't understand that elite support of the strike ("being giddy") is irrelevant and means nothing.
 
^^

Oh, but I'm good with the strike too.
 
Hard to argue, there.

And a sizeable minority here are encouraging his warmongering puppetry (or, rather, is submission to such a White House foreign policy format indicative therein, but I digress). This disturbs me. The idea that the establishment and Wall Street Bankers and Corporates must be defended no matter the danger their current agenda poses to humanity and Earth disturbs me profoundly.
 
You don't understand that elite support of the strike ("being giddy") is irrelevant and means nothing.

Impossible. The elite elevated Trump and empowered him. It is your argument that is irrelevant and means nothing.
 
^^

Oh, but I'm good with the strike too.

You're good with the long-term agenda of the military-industrialists and Islamophobic ethno-nationalists (sparking a cultural/religious war between Christianity and Islam and fulfilling the Book of Revelations)? Are you ****ing kidding me?
 
And a sizeable minority here are encouraging his warmongering puppetry (or, rather, is submission to such a White House foreign policy format indicative therein, but I digress). This disturbs me. The idea that the establishment and Wall Street Bankers and Corporates must be defended no matter the danger their current agenda poses to humanity and Earth disturbs me profoundly.
Well, I was defending your definition.

But I'm O.K. with yesterday's strike. It struck me as sensible and proportional. But I just got in, and haven't caught-up on today's reads yet.
 
You're good with the long-term agenda of the military-industrialists and Islamophobic ethno-nationalists (sparking a cultural/religious war between Christianity and Islam and fulfilling the Book of Revelations)? Are you ****ing kidding me?

Perhaps against my better judgement, I'm gonna put a toe in this pool of loony and ask: why do you care about the Book of Revelations?
 
You're good with the long-term agenda of the military-industrialists and Islamophobic ethno-nationalists (sparking a cultural/religious war between Christianity and Islam and fulfilling the Book of Revelations)? Are you ****ing kidding me?
You're conflating a sensible proportional warning notice with radical thought, and it's unfounded at this time.
 
You're conflating a sensible proportional warning notice with radical thought, and it's unfounded at this time.

Trump himself has admitted multiple times that he is a radical and loose-cannon prone to uncontrolled and unfettered violence.



This man needs to be ****ing arrested!!!
 
No need. I've been here awhile. There is a handful, at most (I can only think of two), members of considerable wealth, neither are the top .1%.

Assad is a terrorist. He is gassing his own people to maintain a monarchic dictatorship.

The overwhelming support here, from every political lean, is entirely from the middle and lower class. The public overwhelmingly supports the strike because we want action taken against the use of chemical weapons.

Do you think US military cares about it ?
 
Do you think US military cares about it ?

Everyone in my platoon and company (airborne infantry) cared about the suffering of those beneath tyranny. We found that suffering abhorrent and were willing to fight and die against it.
 
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