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Russia 'may have committed war crime' - Johnson

DaveFagan said:
The USA has no business in Syria. We are attacking a sovereign Nation. We are not defenders of liberty and justice. We are hegemonic warmongers furthering the agendas of the Military Industrial Complex and the Big Energy/Banking oligarchs and Mid East oily states. We are the BAD GUYS and suporters of this agenda are evil do-badders. Syria is 6-7,000 miles away and needs our help not bombs and intrigue for the "War is good business, and business is good," boardroom army.
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Doubling down on rhetoric isn't an adequate substitute for facts and reason, just so you know.

Your wishes that the United States support a ruthless dicatator noted.
 
Jack Hays said:
The war in Syria began with a Syrian popular uprising for freedom and democracy. The regime's response was a brutal assault on civilians. The resistance asked only for weapons with which to fight. We failed to provide that. The stalemate and influx of religious extremists followed. Our failure to provide assistance in a timely manner has led to hundreds of thousands of deaths.
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The war started when Assad won the election and the CIA financed NGOs began resorting to insurrection. ISIS financed, armed and trained by US Allies Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Turkey are the backbones of Syrian invaders. The USA and Turkey are both invaders in Syria. We are fighting against liberty and justice for all. The USA does not spread freedom and democracy. We spread a form of financial hegemony.
 
Fledermaus said:
So, have you figured out ISIS and Al Nusra are different folks yet?

And what aircraft do either fly?
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They are not different folks. Joined at the hip and the USA wallet. That is why they are an ingegrated army known as ISIS. They fly TOW missiles.
 
Tigerace117 said:
Doubling down on rhetoric isn't an adequate substitute for facts and reason, just so you know.

Your wishes that the United States support a ruthless dicatator noted.
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Just so you know. Assad is elected. Ruthless describes the attacks upon Syria by a Nation 6,000 miles away attempting to subvert democracy when the efforts of its' CIA financed NGOs to subvert the election failed.
 
DaveFagan said:
They are not different folks. Joined at the hip and the USA wallet. That is why they are an ingegrated army known as ISIS. They fly TOW missiles.
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And we have more ignorant accusations instead of evidence.

They are not integrated. Stop. That is wrong.

And how exactly does ISIS/Al Nusra fly TOWs?

What aircraft do they use?
 
DaveFagan said:
Just so you know. Assad is elected. Ruthless describes the attacks upon Syria by a Nation 6,000 miles away attempting to subvert democracy when the efforts of its' CIA financed NGOs to subvert the election failed.
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No, he wasn't. The Ba'ath Party took control of Syria in a coup, and "elections" aren't the same thing as elections. Elections actually have to be free and fair to count as democratic.

How far away is Russia from Syria?
 
DaveFagan said:
Just so you know. Assad is elected. Ruthless describes the attacks upon Syria by a Nation 6,000 miles away attempting to subvert democracy when the efforts of its' CIA financed NGOs to subvert the election failed.
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Dictators have been elected.

It happens all the time.

Syria is Democratic as the DPRK is Democratic.
 
DaveFagan said:
The war started when Assad won the election and the CIA financed NGOs began resorting to insurrection. ISIS financed, armed and trained by US Allies Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Turkey are the backbones of Syrian invaders. The USA and Turkey are both invaders in Syria. We are fighting against liberty and justice for all. The USA does not spread freedom and democracy. We spread a form of financial hegemony.
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Arab Spring ring a bell?
 
Russia has long been purposefully bombing hospitals, there is no maybe about it. I dont expect China to allow Russia to be punished for it however.
 
DaveFagan said:
The war started when Assad won the election and the CIA financed NGOs began resorting to insurrection. ISIS financed, armed and trained by US Allies Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Turkey are the backbones of Syrian invaders. The USA and Turkey are both invaders in Syria. We are fighting against liberty and justice for all. The USA does not spread freedom and democracy. We spread a form of financial hegemony.
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Exactly none of that is either true or accurate.
 
DaveFagan said:
The war started when Assad won the election and the CIA financed NGOs began resorting to insurrection. ISIS financed, armed and trained by US Allies Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Turkey are the backbones of Syrian invaders. The USA and Turkey are both invaders in Syria. We are fighting against liberty and justice for all. The USA does not spread freedom and democracy. We spread a form of financial hegemony.
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Not a bad idea for a pseudo-history, political thriller novel. I might use this premise in my sequel to The Powers That Be.
Realistically though, Occam's Razor dictates it is much more realistic that Assad is simply a spoiled and power-hungry dickwad.
 
Fledermaus said:
Arab Spring ring a bell?
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As if wars are a function of weather. Simple minded grasp of complicated events. Is that your specialty?
 
Aleppo is a symbol of American weakness - TheWashington Post‎ - 1 day ago

By Richard Cohen Opinion writer ... Aleppo, like Guernica before it, is where the world is ...

In April of 1937, the war planes of Nazi Germany and fascist Italy chose a market day to bomb a Basque town, one of the first times a civilian population was deliberately targeted. Pablo Picasso, a native of Spain, quickly reacted by depicting the horror in his famous mural named for the town, “Guernica.” It was finished by June. If he were alive today, he might want to paint one called “Aleppo.” It should be mounted outside the White House.
Aleppo is not some quaint market town. It is — or was — Syria’s major city, an ancient trading center, a cosmopolitan stop for many a camel caravan. It is now being leveled by incessant bombings, the occasional use of chemical weapons, barrel bombs and, recently, bunker-busters that entomb the wounded. Even ambulances and rescue workers have been targeted. Aleppo, like Guernica before it, is where the world is learning a lesson it seems always to forget.
President Obama tells every interviewer that he’s anguished over Syria, but that is scant compensation to the victims, and it has not moved the Russians or the Syrian government to halt their bombing. Secretary of State John F. Kerry, like some hapless suitor offering wilted flowers, has been appealing to Vladimir Putin’s wholly imaginary better angels. Putin takes the flowers and then bombs some more. Unlike Obama, he knows what he wants. He wants to win.
This is not Kerry’s failure. It is Obama’s. He takes overweening pride in being the anti-George W. Bush. Obama is the president who did not get us into any nonessential wars of the Iraq variety. The consequences for Syria have been dire — perhaps 500,000 dead, 7 million internal refugees, with millions more surging toward Europe like a tsunami of the desperate. . . .


 
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