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    War with Iran is probably our best option

    War with Iran is probably our best option - The Washington Post

    The logical flaw in the indictment of a looming “very bad” nuclear deal with Iran that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu delivered before Congress this month was his claim that we could secure a “good deal” by calling Iran’s bluff and imposing tougher sanctions. The Iranian regime that Netanyahu described so vividly — violent, rapacious, devious and redolent with hatred for Israel and the United States — is bound to continue its quest for nuclear weapons by refusing any “good deal” or by cheating.

    Nonetheless, we might absorb some strikes. Wrenchingly, that might be the price of averting the heavier losses that we and others would suffer in the larger Middle Eastern conflagration that is the likely outcome of Iran’s drive to the bomb. Were Iran, which is already embroiled in Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Lebanon and Gaza, further emboldened by becoming a “nuclear threshold state,” it would probably overreach, kindling bigger wars — with Israel, Arab states or both. The United States would probably be drawn in, just as we have been in many other wars from which we had hoped to remain aloof.
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    “The whole episode is sadly unsurprising,” said a senior U.S. official familiar with U.S. policy on Ukraine. “It’s the epitome of impulsive, self-serving decision-making at the top that has undermined American power.”

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    Re: War with Iran is probably our best option

    I can see the possibility and even merits of a preemptive strikes to deter them from achieving nuclear capabilities, but not so much in the case of an actual ground war and ensuing occupation in order to bring about a successful transition and regime change. Even the more hawkish among us seem to shy away from that idea. I would most definitely support the former though, for the sake of the ME as a whole and even Iranians themselves.

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    Re: War with Iran is probably our best option

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    This is an opinion piece, not breaking news at all. Should be in the ME forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    This is an opinion piece, not breaking news at all. Should be in the ME forum.
    OK- Went checking. I will report it.
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    “The whole episode is sadly unsurprising,” said a senior U.S. official familiar with U.S. policy on Ukraine. “It’s the epitome of impulsive, self-serving decision-making at the top that has undermined American power.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    This is an opinion piece, not breaking news at all. Should be in the ME forum.
    How do I report a thread??? Help please.
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    “The whole episode is sadly unsurprising,” said a senior U.S. official familiar with U.S. policy on Ukraine. “It’s the epitome of impulsive, self-serving decision-making at the top that has undermined American power.”

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    Re: War with Iran is probably our best option

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    How do I report a thread??? Help please.
    The little alert sign in the lower left corner of the OP posting.
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    Re: War with Iran is probably our best option

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    The little alert sign in the lower left corner of the OP posting.
    Thanks.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/people/josh-dawsey/
    “The whole episode is sadly unsurprising,” said a senior U.S. official familiar with U.S. policy on Ukraine. “It’s the epitome of impulsive, self-serving decision-making at the top that has undermined American power.”

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    War with Iran is probably our best option

    War with Iran is probably our best option - The Washington Post

    Sanctions may have induced Iran to enter negotiations, but they have not persuaded it to abandon its quest for nuclear weapons. Nor would the stiffer sanctions that Netanyahu advocates bring a different result. Sanctions could succeed if they caused the regime to fall; the end of communism in Ukraine and Kazakhstan, and of apartheid in South Africa, led to the abandonment of nuclear weapons in those states. But since 2009, there have been few signs of rebellion in Tehran.

    Nonetheless, we might absorb some strikes. Wrenchingly, that might be the price of averting the heavier losses that we and others would suffer in the larger Middle Eastern conflagration that is the likely outcome of Iran’s drive to the bomb. Were Iran, which is already embroiled in Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Lebanon and Gaza, further emboldened by becoming a “nuclear threshold state,” it would probably overreach, kindling bigger wars — with Israel, Arab states or both. The United States would probably be drawn in, just as we have been in many other wars from which we had hoped to remain aloof.
    Yes, the US with NATO could do this. Or the US could do this alone. That would read in the ME as the US attacking another Muslim country.
    So NATO and Saudi, the chicken **** ****ers, who sit and wait for others to do the blood work, along with others should be at the forefront.
    Thoughts are?
    For a war?
    Against a War
    Continued sanctions in the event of a bad deal?
    And if Intel shows a break out then War.
    And a declaration of War falls under Congress.
    What do you think?
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    “The whole episode is sadly unsurprising,” said a senior U.S. official familiar with U.S. policy on Ukraine. “It’s the epitome of impulsive, self-serving decision-making at the top that has undermined American power.”

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    Re: War with Iran is probably our best option

    Pakistan has had nukes for decades, and haven't used them. North Korea has nukes and aren't using them. Merely having nuclear capabilities does not constitute a direct threat. We have absolutely no business having a war with Iran. We have nothing at all to gain. We only have things to lose.
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    Re: War with Iran is probably our best option

    I asked for this to be deleted- 1st wrong area - next a duplicate thread. Bad day.
    Thanks
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/people/josh-dawsey/
    “The whole episode is sadly unsurprising,” said a senior U.S. official familiar with U.S. policy on Ukraine. “It’s the epitome of impulsive, self-serving decision-making at the top that has undermined American power.”

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