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Any other vintage car or truck enthusiasts here?

This is not a classic car but I just got reminded of one of my favorite driving videos.
Tony Losurdo's grandmother (Italian grandmother) proves she can STILL drive a stick even after forty years.
This makes me laugh, AND miss my own Italian grandmother, every time I watch it.

 
Grandpappy said:
I've always liked old cars and trucks, not just for the bucks but for the actual love of the hobby. Here's my current weekend ride, a 1965 Chevy C10 "patina style". That means faded paint and rust. ;) But it runs like a top, get "Wanna sell it?" questions all the time.
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You have one, or want one?
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Is that a single shot 22. I think I had that exact same rifle 45 years ago. Nice truck. I remember when there were still lots of them on the road. They all had the same paint job.
 
This was my first car. Of course mine was not pristine but well abused I mean used. I plan on restoring one when I retire.

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PIPEWRENCH said:
This was my first car. Of course mine was not pristine but well abused I mean used. I plan on restoring one when I retire.

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Naaah be like this guy, buy a Hellcat, scare the crap out of young guys with it.



watching him smoke that Vette three times was entertaining as Hell.
I bout damn near busted a gut watching him get sideways.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
You mean this?

$194.00 Who is "they"...the DEALER? You went to the dealer for a problem with an 03 Ranger? :lamo

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Yeah there is, cost to operate. Cost of operation on most newer cars is drastically lower. You use less of everything, including gasoline.



That doesn't even make sense, ^^^ put down the pipe and read what you just wrote.



---Sorry but you're misinformed. You DON'T have to go to the dealer to flash and reprogram most ECM's.
If that is the case with MBZ well then I stand by my earlier statements.
Sorry but while I am a fan of older MBZ, the newer ones, not so much.



No they don't. People who can't (or won't) find qualified mechanics do that.
The moment our warranty is up we already have the indie garage all lined up but he even joked that we wouldn't be needing him for a long time, as he recognized the durability of the Pacificas. He said the first repair we're likely to need will be the door and window seals, which I already know from experience aren't the greatest on newer Chryslers.
L.A. doesn't get much rain so, might be a while.

And as far as smog, hey you know what? We NEED to pay attention to smog, certainly out here in L.A.
Don't like it? Don't live in L.A. then. I like being able to see more than half a block on most days.
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Ah so socially responsible you are! I live in flat, narrow Florida between 2 large bodies of water. Wind blows it out to sea.

The dealer told me the computer that runs the AC was out and the total would be $1500. I said no and hot wired around it.

I would not want either a Muscle car ('70 Boss 429 if I could pick it) or a Hellcat for a daily driver. Actually, my little old single cab Ford Ranger sportside with 3.0 6 cylinder with manual 5 speed at nearly 220,000 miles is just fine for me. Probably in another 10,000 miles I should change the Royal Purple oil I put in it at 155,000. :)
 
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joko104 said:
Ah so socially responsible you are! I live in flat, narrow Florida between 2 large bodies of water. Wind blows it out to sea.

The dealer told me the computer that runs the AC was out and the total would be $1500. I said no and hot wired around it.

I would not want either a Muscle car ('70 Boss 429 if I could pick it) or a Hellcat for a daily driver. Actually, my little old single cab Ford Ranger sportside with 3.0 6 cylinder with manual 5 speed at nearly 220,000 miles is just fine for me. Probably in another 10,000 miles I should change the Royal Purple oil I put in it at 155,000. :)
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Truck for hauling friends?

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joko104 said:
Ah so socially responsible you are! I live in flat, narrow Florida between 2 large bodies of water. Wind blows it out to sea.

The dealer told me the computer that runs the AC was out and the total would be $1500. I said no and hot wired around it.

I would not want either a Muscle car ('70 Boss 429 if I could pick it) or a Hellcat for a daily driver. Actually, my little old single cab Ford Ranger sportside with 3.0 6 cylinder with manual 5 speed at nearly 220,000 miles is just fine for me. Probably in another 10,000 miles I should change the Royal Purple oil I put in it at 155,000. :)
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Yah I know all about Ford Rangers, every other friend of mine owns or has owned one.
There is no "computer that runs the AC" so it sounds like the dealer had a flunky who wouldn't know an AC from a Finordiner Rod.
The Vulcan is a great engine...not the muscular beast that the Yamaha DOHC V6 from the Taurus SHO is, but certainly very durable.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Yah I know all about Ford Rangers, every other friend of mine owns or has owned one.
There is no "computer that runs the AC" so it sounds like the dealer had a flunky who wouldn't know an AC from a Finordiner Rod.
The Vulcan is a great engine...not the muscular beast that the Yamaha DOHC V6 from the Taurus SHO is, but certainly very durable.
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Interesting. I didn't believe the dealer about the AC for some reason and certainly wasn't going to spend $1500 on a computer for a truck I paid $2000 for parked along the road. It was not more complicated that a wire and toggle switch to the compressor.

It is hard for me to think of anything but a V8 (or V12) as a performance motor, but I know they are getting serious horsepower out of smaller motors. The new Ranger has a 275 horsepower 2.3 4 cylinder with 8 speed auto transmission. Wish they had a manual version. Old school, but with a manual transmission you can always push/pull/roll start it. For a while I had an old Triumph Herald with a bad starter. So I parked it on a hill. That got the job done for starting it. Just don't let it die while driving it.
 
joko104 said:
Ah so socially responsible you are! I live in flat, narrow Florida between 2 large bodies of water. Wind blows it out to sea.

The dealer told me the computer that runs the AC was out and the total would be $1500. I said no and hot wired around it.

I would not want either a Muscle car ('70 Boss 429 if I could pick it) or a Hellcat for a daily driver. Actually, my little old single cab Ford Ranger sportside with 3.0 6 cylinder with manual 5 speed at nearly 220,000 miles is just fine for me. Probably in another 10,000 miles I should change the Royal Purple oil I put in it at 155,000. :)
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Computers do not run A/C on vehicles.
No such thing as 'hot wired' (opposite of cold wired?). :lamo
How cute.
 
SMTA said:
Computers do not run A/C on vehicles.
No such thing as 'hot wired' (opposite of cold wired?). :lamo
How cute.
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Well, it's just because if that was true, then computers would run A/C in a window air conditioner too.
And they don't. It's a motor, a clutch*, a compressor, a blower fan and a condenser.
If there's a thermostat, I guess that's the only "brains" an A/C ever needs.

* in automotive use...the very first automotive A/C's didn't even have that, the compressor just ran full time.
 
Actually, the engine computer (PCM) does control the A/C compressor. It's programmed to turn the compressor off if the engine overheats or the driver floors the accelerator.
Welcome to the 21st century.
 
Grandpappy said:
Actually, the engine computer (PCM) does control the A/C compressor. It's programmed to turn the compressor off if the engine overheats or the driver floors the accelerator.
Welcome to the 21st century.
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Today, but not on a 2003 Ford Ranger.
Yes, the computer gets involved in climate control in my wife's 2018 Pacifica minivan, under much the same conditions.
What's interesting though, is the fact that the same engine and climate controls can be set up to run in "dumb mode" because they use the same powertrain in some vehicles like the Jeep which may or may not have the same sophistication depending on which model we're talking about.

That accelerator cutout feature is relatively new, by the way...and long overdue.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Today, but not on a 2003 Ford Ranger.
Yes, the computer gets involved in climate control in my wife's 2018 Pacifica minivan, under much the same conditions.
What's interesting though, is the fact that the same engine and climate controls can be set up to run in "dumb mode" because they use the same powertrain in some vehicles like the Jeep which may or may not have the same sophistication depending on which model we're talking about.

That accelerator cutout feature is relatively new, by the way...and long overdue.
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Just remember that if the A/C craps out on the wife's minivan, you can have Joko 'hot wire' around that PCM for you! :lamo
 
Grandpappy said:
You have one, or want one?
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That's a beautiful truck, I had a '73 a while back, but it doesn't get any better than the mid 60's for cars and trucks. Picked up a '64 Continental last year, which for me is the best of the best in classic cars.

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Chips said:
That's a beautiful truck, I had a '73 a while back, but it doesn't get any better than the mid 60's for cars and trucks. Picked up a '64 Continental last year, which for me is the best of the best in classic cars.

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Really nice car, good photo, too. :thumbs:
 
Grandpappy said:
Really nice car, good photo, too. :thumbs:
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Thanks, on both counts.

The 1960's were definitely a good decade for cars and trucks. There's a '64 Corvette and a '65 Imperial in town that I run across from time to time, like an instant car-show.
 
Chips said:
Thanks, on both counts.

The 1960's were definitely a good decade for cars and trucks. There's a '64 Corvette and a '65 Imperial in town that I run across from time to time, like an instant car-show.
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I'm more of a MoPar guy.
Awww who am I kidding, I'm a hopelessly fanatical MoPar guy.
So for me, instead of the 1960's Connie, which is an amazing vehicle, I would still choose the 1965 Imperial.

I've had a couple of chances to get one, but I keep hesitating.
I probably shouldn't hesitate but the thing that makes me stall is the fact that I can't afford to own a "collector" car, it would have to be modernized enough to be a daily driver that can handle the realities of five or six dollar a gallon gasoline, so that would entail many thousands of dollars to "21st century restomod" such a car if I ever did get it.

Many many thousands, perhaps even tens of thousands, which would probably be about ten thousand more than I have to invest, so I'd be stuck with an old heap in somewhat lackluster condition with a very inefficient engine in possibly questionable shape, and brakes and steering which are clearly not up to an environment which consists of 75 mph on the freeway and very sudden stops and SigAlerts seemingly out of nowhere.

If I can manage to put thirty or forty thousand aside, I know I could easily turn an old heap like that into a very enjoyable and very useable everyday driver. Six or eight thousand won't do the job, that's for sure.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
I'm more of a MoPar guy.
Awww who am I kidding, I'm a hopelessly fanatical MoPar guy.
So for me, instead of the 1960's Connie, which is an amazing vehicle, I would still choose the 1965 Imperial.
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The '64 - '65 Imperials are pretty nice, honestly the first time I saw the one near here I needed to do a double take. You can definitely see Engel's work, striking resemblance to the Continentals. I'm still partial to the suicide doors, and the 'electric razor' grille on the Lincoln.

Both, right about my favorite cars.

Classy, but not ostentatious.

I've always been more into the old luxury sedans than I have ever been into the old muscle cars.


Checkerboard Strangler said:
I've had a couple of chances to get one, but I keep hesitating.
I probably shouldn't hesitate but the thing that makes me stall is the fact that I can't afford to own a "collector" car, it would have to be modernized enough to be a daily driver that can handle the realities of five or six dollar a gallon gasoline, so that would entail many thousands of dollars to "21st century restomod" such a car if I ever did get it.
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Having 'dealt' with my classic for the past year, I think the $30k figure for an Imperial is a decently sound number. Looks like a good condition hard-top might for for between $12k and 18k, and I can vouch for the $10k investment post-purchase.

I didn't look to modernize my car, it's only got 26,600 miles on it, so I've kept it as stock as possible. But, getting some new tires on and some other minor details quickly added up to just shy of $10k. Of course, as much as I'd like to, my Lincoln isn't a daily driver. Just a weekend and holiday machine. Though, I might take it to work tomorrow, as I don't expect a lot of traffic.

It's definitely an investment in time and money, one that I'm not sure I'll repeat with another vehicle. For me it was a '64 Continental or nothing, and with that one under my belt, I'll probably stick with new cars hereafter.
 
Chips said:
The '64 - '65 Imperials are pretty nice, honestly the first time I saw the one near here I needed to do a double take. You can definitely see Engel's work, striking resemblance to the Continentals. I'm still partial to the suicide doors, and the 'electric razor' grille on the Lincoln.

Both, right about my favorite cars.

Classy, but not ostentatious.

I've always been more into the old luxury sedans than I have ever been into the old muscle cars.




Having 'dealt' with my classic for the past year, I think the $30k figure for an Imperial is a decently sound number. Looks like a good condition hard-top might for for between $12k and 18k, and I can vouch for the $10k investment post-purchase.

I didn't look to modernize my car, it's only got 26,600 miles on it, so I've kept it as stock as possible. But, getting some new tires on and some other minor details quickly added up to just shy of $10k. Of course, as much as I'd like to, my Lincoln isn't a daily driver. Just a weekend and holiday machine. Though, I might take it to work tomorrow, as I don't expect a lot of traffic.

It's definitely an investment in time and money, one that I'm not sure I'll repeat with another vehicle. For me it was a '64 Continental or nothing, and with that one under my belt, I'll probably stick with new cars hereafter.
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What part of Cali are you in if I may ask?
I'm in Whittier, right near where the I-5 and I-605 cross each other ("Where the freeways meet in Downey!")
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
What part of Cali are you in if I may ask?
I'm in Whittier, right near where the I-5 and I-605 cross each other ("Where the freeways meet in Downey!")
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I'm up north, outside the city, looking out at nothing but fog.
 
Chips said:
I'm up north, outside the city, looking out at nothing but fog.
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Yeah, you could probably get away with driving it more regularly than I could.
I cannot begin to imagine getting on the 605 and finally hitting 70 or 75 and then suddenly having all the traffic in front of me screeching to a stop (which it almost always does at some point) and repeating that all day in a 4000 pound vehicle with old drum brakes.

Not to mention, the fuel economy at those speeds is going to be atrocious and you simply CANNOT do 55-60, even in the far-most right lane. You will literally get run off the road for doing so.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
If I can pull it off. The good news is, Pentastar V6 engines are everywhere. Chrysler has used them in a lot of cars and trucks.
It's even more legendary than the famous indestructible Slant Six.

I'll feel guilty yanking out the venerable old 413 from it, until someone shows up with some cash to take it off my hands.
I know that a lot of people love the 413 engines. I sure do, but unless you want to build a totally ridiculous show car and give the engine some racing parts, it's just too inefficient to use as a daily driver at four bucks a gallon.

I'm more than a little frightened about the computerization factor. There is no way to make a modern Pentastar communicate with ancient analog mechanical dash instruments, so cobbling together some kind of updated display will be one of the tougher parts of the restomod I am sure.
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Do a 350 crate, 300hp, 20mpg estimated. You'll need an msd ignition control, and a holley 650 carb, tuned right, with decent gearing, and you can get 20mpg.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Yeah, you could probably get away with driving it more regularly than I could.
I cannot begin to imagine getting on the 605 and finally hitting 70 or 75 and then suddenly having all the traffic in front of me screeching to a stop (which it almost always does at some point) and repeating that all day in a 4000 pound vehicle with old drum brakes.

Not to mention, the fuel economy at those speeds is going to be atrocious and you simply CANNOT do 55-60, even in the far-most right lane. You will literally get run off the road for doing so.
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Yea, there's a lot of good open freeway up here.

Taking it back and forth across the bay bridge can be tricky, for the same reasons you've mentioned. Of the few times that I've had to stop quickly from the 80mph range, I'll say that the big old drum brakes have performed admirably (did drive it to my mechanic the next week to get them checked out to be sure though).

And yea, the best fuel economy I've recorded so far was 11mpg heading south from Bodega Bay, on the open roads in Sonoma county. Otherwise, it's usually a solid 8mpg in the hills around here.

But, I'll be the first to say that it's a beautiful thing to get that car on an open freeway and float along at 85mph.

Like riding on a cloud.
 
KevinKohler said:
Do a 350 crate, 300hp, 20mpg estimated. You'll need an msd ignition control, and a holley 650 carb, tuned right, with decent gearing, and you can get 20mpg.
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I don't want to deal with carburetors anymore. I really like fuel injection.
If I did anything, the car would end up with an ECM anyway, might as well go with fuel injection.
 
1976 vette, resto mod. 350, vortex heads, 993 casting, "mild" cam, due to the clearance issue with the heads, aluminum intake, headers, 2.5 in true dual exhaust, glass pack mufflers. Exhaust dumps out the side, just before the rear wheels, NASCAR style. Totally replaced the suspension, its fully adjustable, bilstien heavy duty shocks, poly bushings all over, tubular upper and lower A arms. Bear aluminum breaks, slotted rotors...honestly, too much to list.

I figure it makes about 350hp to the rear wheels...maybe 400hp on the motor. Easily 450 ft lbs of torque, thing is a stump puller. Had the car weighted at the local dump, 3,300 pounds with me in it. Combine that with 275 rear tires, and 255s up front...she is on rails, and gets up and goes like a bat outa hell. Only thing it now needs is a TKO600 5 speed to replace the old "super" t10 4 speed tranny. 1st gear, combine with 3.08 rear gear...is too long.
 
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