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Ford Bronco is BACK 2020 Confirmed

I have not seen an original bronco in so long, I loved those, they were rugged and comparable to a wrangler in offroad capability. Most what every sees nowadays is the fullsize broncos or the bronco 2s, which were ford ranger suvs with a body kinda resembling the original bronco, and the bronco 2 later became rebadged the explorer.

Dad had a 1996 Explorer, and it was a great car; quite a bit more stable than the Bronco II. he was a salesman for Ford for a while in the late 1970s / early to mid 1980s, as well.
 
They talk alot about the small cars being pushed, but one of the bigger factors was the ecoboost v6, when it first came out and was advertised at as good or better mpg in a full size truck than a 4 cyl ranger, ranger sales dropped and ecoboost sales skyrocketed.

However like many things it proved to not hold up well in practice, they got great mpg in day to day driving, but often worse than an old bigblock dodge one ton when hauling or towing. Many ecoboost owners I have met who used them for work regretted getting them for trucks, because the 25-30 mpg would drop to 6-8 when they would hook up a trailer, alot I think has to do with how the turbo chargers handle load vs efficiency.


The other issue is size of course, alot of fleet guys do not want or need a large truck. Most of them want a small ranger or colorado or an e350 van, not an f150 or a silverado or a ram. Larger size in a truck is hard to maneuver when needed, especially in crowded lots, narrow driveways etc.

What I see similiar in the ranger crowd though is kinda what I see in the bronco crowd wanting a return, they want basic stuff that works. The bronco crowd wants a short wheel base 4x4 suv with a rugged suspension rather than a luxory suv with independant suspension and air ride with a flimsy awd tcase that could barely handle leaving the pavement let alone offroad.


Oh and an edit do not get me started on the transit connect, the 2012 model was a ford focus chassis they grossly overrated, and nearly everyone who bought one was trading them in at 60k miles due to being on their third transmission 4th set of ball joints second set of front rotors and second pcm.

I don't do any towing or much heavy hauling but my 2.7 L ecoboost in m f150 crew cab is getting 21.3 mpg in mixed highway city driving. Better then my 370Z
 
2020 Ford Bronco Is Confirmed | US Cars Today

I don't know about anyone else, but this excites me. I love Broncos. I hope it had the turning radius still. And the toughness. I'm excited, even if I won't be able to afford one. Maybe In 10 or 15 years? And as a side note the Ranger is coming back too, but I am not quite as thrilled about that one.


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Hopefully not made in Mexico...
 
Yeah...I think of Wrangler's as more off road vehicle's than SUV's (though I realize SUV means Sport Utility Vehicle). A Wrangler is a serious off roader in my book. SUV's are more pickup's with permanent caps on the back (which is how SUV's got started).

I gotta say though, I kinda cringe when I see a 4 door Wrangler. There is nothing wrong with it...I am just so used to the 2 door.

But that is me.

Lol. I can dig that. Have you seen those ugly things called FJ cruisers? Yuck. And you can't forget land rovers. Those are old school off roaders that got turned into mom mobiles.


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https://carsoid.com/2020-ford-bronco-release-date-price/

Projected price for base model is around $25,000. Let's hope they stick with that price range. Because I will be buying one if that is the case. By that time I will be in the market for children too.

Allegedly it will have a diesel option which is cool (won't buy it). One big question is will she be able to take her top off? I never minded the top on, but it might be more fun with it off sometimes.


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Lol. I can dig that. Have you seen those ugly things called FJ cruisers? Yuck. And you can't forget land rovers. Those are old school off roaders that got turned into mom mobiles.


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I agree 100% with all of that.

Toyota went from this dated but purposeful looking off roader:
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to this goofy looking thing:

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Which has now been discontinued, btw.
 
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I wonder if the people at FWC (game wardens) are salivating yet? Sure would look better than this:

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I agree 100% with all of that.

Toyota went from this dated but purposeful looking off roader:
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to this goofy looking thing:

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Which has now been discontinued, btw.

Yep. I've seen a few out there that looked nice when beefed up and given grills and all the other stuff...but it was hard to overcome the off road giant Mini Cooper look. Lol


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I don't do any towing or much heavy hauling but my 2.7 L ecoboost in m f150 crew cab is getting 21.3 mpg in mixed highway city driving. Better then my 370Z

They actually do very well in normal driving, just bad when hauling loads.
 
I agree 100% with all of that.

Toyota went from this dated but purposeful looking off roader:
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to this goofy looking thing:

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Which has now been discontinued, btw.


The FJ Cruiser has among the best resale value of any vehicle on the road

I saw one being used as the company truck for an outdoor adventure company, with snorkel, and the spray in bed liner sprayed all over the body
 
The FJ Cruiser has among the best resale value of any vehicle on the road

I saw one being used as the company truck for an outdoor adventure company, with snorkel, and the spray in bed liner sprayed all over the body

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Saw this one the other day.



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2020 Ford Bronco Is Confirmed | US Cars Today

I don't know about anyone else, but this excites me. I love Broncos. I hope it had the turning radius still. And the toughness. I'm excited, even if I won't be able to afford one. Maybe In 10 or 15 years? And as a side note the Ranger is coming back too, but I am not quite as thrilled about that one.


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About a thousand years ago, I was a young struggling college student trying to work my way through a nursing career at a JUCO. I was befriended by a woman named Barbara who drove a gigantic black Ford Bronco. She gave me several rides in the rig to an from class and the hospitals where we did our rotations....I was so into her...wow. Finally, the young man I was made his move at the tender age of 18 or 19 or whatever I was. Barbara, at the time was 36. "I'm old enough to be your mother" she says. "But you're not." I pointed out. Then I got the "You're sweet" and a kiss on the cheek. Even at that age, I knew I was shot down!!!! Ahh memories.

As for the Bronco...can't understand why they would bring that thing back. The Ranger? Yes. There seems to be a void in the small pick-up space right now. For those who can't afford an F150; the Ranger makes sense.
 
About a thousand years ago, I was a young struggling college student trying to work my way through a nursing career at a JUCO. I was befriended by a woman named Barbara who drove a gigantic black Ford Bronco. She gave me several rides in the rig to an from class and the hospitals where we did our rotations....I was so into her...wow. Finally, the young man I was made his move at the tender age of 18 or 19 or whatever I was. Barbara, at the time was 36. "I'm old enough to be your mother" she says. "But you're not." I pointed out. Then I got the "You're sweet" and a kiss on the cheek. Even at that age, I knew I was shot down!!!! Ahh memories.

As for the Bronco...can't understand why they would bring that thing back. The Ranger? Yes. There seems to be a void in the small pick-up space right now. For those who can't afford an F150; the Ranger makes sense.

Because people love them. Look at the jeep.


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2020 Ford Bronco Is Confirmed | US Cars Today

I don't know about anyone else, but this excites me. I love Broncos. I hope it had the turning radius still. And the toughness. I'm excited, even if I won't be able to afford one. Maybe In 10 or 15 years? And as a side note the Ranger is coming back too, but I am not quite as thrilled about that one.


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I drove one just like this in the 90's. Great little 4x4...perfect size.

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" the Ranger is coming back too " B5 #1
Here's a pic of mine.

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I didn't know what to call it. So I called it Robert.
Robert red Ford.

True story.
 
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