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N.J. alleged beating

York_Curmudgeon

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Surveillance tape from Lawrence's Grill and Bar in Passaic on May 29 shows a police car pull up to Ronnie Holloway, who is standing still on the curb outside the restaurant. After a few moments Holloway zips up his sweatshirt -- because the female officer in the car instructed him to do so, Holloway said.

At that point, the other officer in the vehicle, Joseph R. Rios III, exits the car, grabs Holloway and slams him onto the hood of the police car. He then pummels Holloway with his fist and baton.
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Voidwar said:
New Jersey police officer pounds man on tape - CNN.com

Here is a link straight to the video page.

I'm wondering how the Blue Wall will justify this, but they are just so imaginative, that I'm sure I will be entertained whatever they come up with.
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Why do you ignore those of us that describe certain individual police actions that are horrible and illegal?
There is a Blue Wall Defense and there is a Blue Wall Attack Force.
Both lie and twist the truth in order to meet their biased agenda.

Both Suck...

You act as if you are impartial or honest... it is I that am honest.
I say that inappropriate actions are inappropriate based on individual cases.

You attack all cops and condone murder of people that you think violate your rights.

With regards to this case, it certainly looks the cop is in the wrong, but the evidence is inconclusive.
 
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This clearly appears to be a violent criminal assault perpetrated by a cop. The victim clearly was no threat, not making any kind of aggressive behavior, and the attack was obviously unnecessary. The officer in question should be arrested and prosecuted for assault. And if the only charge against this man was "resisting arrest" then the agency should be forced to compensate him and the officer should be charged with making a false arrest.

This act was abhorrent. Justice must be served.
 
Voidwar said:
What do you think a right is ?
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A "Right" is a man made concept.
Your "Right" to own a gun is nothing more than a joke of a man made law.
 
So you think rights are a joke, why am I not surprised.
 
Voidwar said:
So you think rights are a joke, why am I not surprised.
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Nope, not at all...

Unless you can prove that "rights" are inherent, you ain't got **** and all of your "the cop is the threat" crap is laughable...
That is the whole point that I have been destroying you over...
 
Bodhisattva said:
Unless you can prove that "rights" are inherent.
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Perhaps you choose to set the bar there, but that doesn't set it there for me.

You say rights are a joke, and then you backpedal when called on it.
 
Voidwar said:
Perhaps you choose to set the bar there, but that doesn't set it there for me.

You say rights are a joke, and then you backpedal when called on it.
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Nope, rights are not a joke, the fact that people made them up and think that they are the end all is the joke. I see that you will make no attempt to prove the impossible, so I guess that I win yet another point against your delusions.
 
Bodhisattva said:
I see that you will make no attempt to prove the impossible
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I am under no obligation to jump over your hurdle.

You don't get to set my bar.
 
Well, let's get back to basics here.

The broad cop had no legal authority to tell a citizen to zip up his sweater.

If a man can walk the streets without a shirt on, he can walk the streets with he sweater unzipped.

The broad cop wasn't his mother, she had no authority to dictate his sartorial display.

What basis did the dick cop have to assualt this man?

Not one probable cause was mentioned in the article linked.

Two cops, two separate instances of abuse of power.
 
Voidwar said:
hmmmmmmmmm
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Do you even understand how to connect statements in order to keep them in context? Jesus this is frickin a funny joke... :lol:

Originally Posted by Bodhisattva
A "Right" is a man made concept.
Your "Right" to own a gun is nothing more than a joke of a man made law.

Originally Posted by Bodhisattva
Nope, rights are not a joke, the fact that people made them up and think that they are the end all is the joke.
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You are truly a futile effort...
 
Scarecrow Akhbar said:
Well, let's get back to basics here.

The broad cop had no legal authority to tell a citizen to zip up his sweater.

If a man can walk the streets without a shirt on, he can walk the streets with he sweater unzipped.

The broad cop wasn't his mother, she had no authority to dictate his sartorial display.

What basis did the dick cop have to assualt this man?
Not one probable cause was mentioned in the article linked.

Two cops, two separate instances of abuse of power.
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None as far as I can tell, the cop should be fired...
 
Voidwar said:
I am under no obligation to jump over your hurdle.

You don't get to set my bar.
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I set the bar for discussions at minimul intelligence (I can't only talk to other intellectuals) and at honesty and personal accountability...
You fail to reach any of the minimum standards that I set the bar at, but you are funny in a certain sort of way, so I entertain your shortcomings...
 
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Bodhisattva said:
I set the bar for discussions at minimul intelligence (I can't only talk to other intellectuals) and at honesty and personal accountability...
You fail to reach any of the minimum standards that I set the bar at, but you are funny in a certain sort of way, so I entertain your shortcomings...
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Well let's see, first you say rights are a joke, then you backpedal when called on it, and now you just attempt to ad hominem smear me. On top of that, I proved you are a liar in the other thread, so I think you have fallen below any standard. Catch ya later flip flopping liar.
 
Scarecrow Akhbar said:
Well, let's get back to basics here.

The broad cop had no legal authority to tell a citizen to zip up his sweater.

If a man can walk the streets without a shirt on, he can walk the streets with he sweater unzipped.

The broad cop wasn't his mother, she had no authority to dictate his sartorial display.

What basis did the dick cop have to assualt this man?

Not one probable cause was mentioned in the article linked.

Two cops, two separate instances of abuse of power.
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I wouldn't consider telling someone to zip up their sweater as an "abuse of power"

Thats getting a little carried away.
 
Voidwar said:
Well let's see, first you say rights are a joke, then you backpedal when called on it, and now you just attempt to ad hominem smear me. On top of that, I proved you are a liar in the other thread, so I think you have fallen below any standard. Catch ya later flip flopping liar.
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Is that the "Im rubber and you're glue" routine that is used by 6 year-olds? :doh
 
Bodhisattva said:
A "Right" is a man made concept.
Your "Right" to own a gun is nothing more than a joke of a man made law.
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hmmmmmmmm here's the flip-flopping:
Bodhisattva said:
Nope, rights are not a joke, the fact that people made them up and think that they are the end all is the joke.
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Bodhisattva said:
I feel that the 2nd is clear and concise, and that it speaks of a collective right that incoporates the individual right...
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and here is the lying
Bodhisattva said:
I did not say that I felt that it meant something particular, I said that I feel that it is clear and concise.
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Catchya later, Flip-flopping Liar. :2wave:
 
Voidwar said:
hmmmmmmmm here's the flip-flopping:
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:rofl

You really are thick... this is the original.

Originally Posted by Bodhisattva
A "Right" is a man made concept.
Your "Right" to own a gun is nothing more than a joke of a man made law.
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And this is the clarification since you did not understand, either due to my lack of clarity or your misunderstanding...

Originally Posted by Bodhisattva
Nope, rights are not a joke, the fact that people made them up and think that they are the end all is the joke.
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Call it flip flopping if you like, but most "normal" people call it clarification.
Find another that thinks that what I did was "flip flopping"... :rofl

and here is the lying


Catchya later, Flip-flopping Liar. :2wave:
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And to the "lying"... dude, it is about what you misunderstood, regarding the "individual right" that you attributed to me instead of what I actually think. You really are obtuse, and that is pathetically sad... :(


Keep up the act, if it helps you feel better about yourself, most of us think that it is pretty dumb though...
You can only lie to yourself buddy...
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Bodhisattva said:
most of us think that it is pretty dumb though...
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Well I am glad you have the rest of the Circle Jerk to provide you with comforting reassurance, and even more glad I don't need to run to someone else when STOMPED in a debate.

Bodhisattva said:
You can only lie to yourself buddy...
:2wave:
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You are the liar, and I have provided the proof repeatedly.

You are also a flip-flopper, and I have provided the proof of that as well.

Now, we watch while you try to justify flip-fliopping as "clarification".

Watching the Flip-Flopping Liar in the wild is an amazing experience.
 
Voidwar said:
Well I am glad you have the rest of the Circle Jerk to provide you with comforting reassurance, and even more glad I don't need to run to someone else when STOMPED in a debate.



You are the liar, and I have provided the proof repeatedly.

You are also a flip-flopper, and I have provided the proof of that as well.

Now, we watch while you try to justify flip-fliopping as "clarification".

Watching the Flip-Flopping Liar in the wild is an amazing experience.
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:rofl :rofl
:rofl :rofl




:2wave:
 
I almost went into the routine again... but it is such a waste of time.
Nobody can argue/debate with one that is either delusional or a Troll.
 
Ad hominems from a proven Liar and flip-flopper just don't sting so much.
 
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