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    Operation Entrapment

    June 1, 2009

    WE'VE HEARD this story before.

    A group of men, disaffected, with petty criminal records and/or mental health issues, in need of money and harboring a real or imagined grudge, are approached by an FBI informant. Later, they're arrested for plotting a major "terrorist attack" on U.S. soil. Politicians and prosecutors praise the diligent work of the FBI in standing between us and another attack like the one on 9/11.

    That's the story, manufactured for the evening news, complete with footage of arrestees led away by agents. But poke beneath the surface, and you find it's full of holes.

    That was true once again, with the arrest on May 20 of four men accused of plotting to bomb two synagogues in the Bronx and shoot down military planes using Stinger missiles at an Air National Guard base in Newburgh, N.Y.

    "It's hard to envision a more chilling plot," Assistant U.S. Attorney Eric Snyder said in federal court, claiming that the arrests ended a nearly year-long "painstaking investigation."

    Initial press reports suggested the men--James Cromitie, David Williams, Onta Williams and Laguerre Payen--were Muslims who wanted to kill Jews and take revenge on the U.S. for the war in Afghanistan. One law enforcement official mistakenly told the New York Times that the men were Arabs.

    In reality, none are Arab--one is Haitian and three are U.S.-born. It's unclear whether the men were practicing Muslims. And their motives for allegedly planting what they believed to be explosive devices also remain unknown.

    According to the New York Times, Cromitie had told an FBI informant that he wanted to "do something to America" in response to the war. The complaint filed against the men alleges that Cromitie stated "the best target"--the World Trade Center--"was hit already." The men allegedly chose the two synagogues as targets instead, and the FBI informant helped them get what they believed to be explosive devices, but which were incapable of being fired or detonated.

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    BUT LIKE many other spectacular arrests in "war on terror" cases, the charges against these four men look thin, if not entirely manufactured.

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    Re: Operation Entrapment

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    BUT LIKE many other spectacular arrests in "war on terror" cases, the charges against these four men look thin, if not entirely manufactured.

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    I do hope that EVERYONE is outraged by this!
    Shame on The Obama administration!

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    Re: Operation Entrapment

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    I do hope that EVERYONE is outraged by this!
    Shame on The Obama administration!
    Since I'm not outraged, does that mean I'm not paying close enough attention?

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    Re: Operation Entrapment

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    I do hope that EVERYONE is outraged by this!
    Shame on The Obama administration!
    What part did the Obama administration have in this?

    Related to the OP, I see no problem with arresting these men on with they are thought to be terrorists and a warrant for arrest was issued. If they are innocent they will be proven such and released. IF the allegations against them are false and fabricated those involved should be put on trial.
    Last edited by Gibberish; 06-01-09 at 04:21 PM.
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    Re: Operation Entrapment

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    What part did the Obama administration have in this?
    All of this is happening on The Obama's watch, right?

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    Re: Operation Entrapment

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    All of this is happening on The Obama's watch, right?
    That does not equate to the President being to blame. Unless of course the FBI is required to get direct Presidential signoff before arresting any suspects. Would you be happier if Obama ordered these people to NOT be arrested and then they ended up blowing something up?

    I feel in your view that Obama is at fault no matter the choice that was made.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    That does not equate to the President being to blame.
    It did whenever something like this happened under the Bush administration.

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    It did whenever something like this happened under the Bush administration.
    Please stop trolling.

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    Re: Operation Entrapment

    Where do you find holes in the story?

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    Re: Operation Entrapment

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    It did whenever something like this happened under the Bush administration.
    Your animosity reeks in every post.
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