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    Appeals court vacates Boston Marathon bomber's death sentence, orders new penalty trial

    Appeals court vacates Boston Marathon bomber's death sentence, orders new penalty trial


    7/31/20
    A federal appeals court ruled on Friday to vacate the death sentence of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, who along with his brother planted homemade bombs near the finish of the 2013 Boston Marathon, killing three spectators and injuring hundreds. The court also ruled to set aside three of his 30 convictions but said he will remain in federal prison for the rest of his life. The court ruled Tsarnaev should be given a new penalty phase trial, where a new set of jurors can again decide if he should be sentenced to death. Tsarnaev, now 27, will remain incarcerated and is being held at the nation's most secure federal prison in Florence, Colorado. "And just to be crystal clear: Because we are affirming the convictions (excluding the three ... convictions) and the many life sentences imposed on those remaining counts (which Dzhokhar has not challenged), Dzhokhar will remain confined to prison for the rest of his life, with the only question remaining being whether the government will end his life by executing him," the opinion, authored by Circuit Court Judge Ojetta Rogeriee Thompson, says.

    Tsarnaev's legal team had pushed to change the venue of the trial to a courthouse that wasn't so close to the site of the bombing, in the heart of a town so affected by the tragedy. The appeals court judges agreed, saying, "One could not turn on the radio either without hearing something about these stunningly sad events." The appeals judges ruled that US District Court Judge George O'Toole, who oversaw Tsarnaev's trial, "fell short" of his promise to question jurors thoroughly enough to identify the degree to which they had been exposed to facts of the case through media coverage, "providing sufficient ground to vacate his death sentences." The ruling also states that the judges make no judgment about whether Boston is a "proper venue" for a sentencing retrial, and says it is a decision that should be left to the US District Court for Massachusetts, where the initial trial was held. The US Attorney's office said: "We are currently reviewing the opinion and are declining further comment at this time."
    I have no problem with redoing the penalty-phase with a change of venue. The facts will speak for themselves no matter where the hearing is held.

    That said, spending the rest of his miserable life at Flo-Max is no bargain. Many consider it a sentence worse than death.


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    Re: Appeals court vacates Boston Marathon bomber's death sentence, orders new penalty trial

    I don't have a problem with doing it again, if it wasn't done right the first time. I know he's trying everything possible to avoid execution and I hope he doesn't get the satisfaction of a "win".

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    Re: Appeals court vacates Boston Marathon bomber's death sentence, orders new penalty trial

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    I have no problem with redoing the penalty-phase with a change of venue. The facts will speak for themselves no matter where the hearing is held.

    That said, spending the rest of his miserable life at Flo-Max is no bargain. Many consider it a sentence worse than death.
    This is a totally stupid ruling. The judges don’t like the death penalty and should be impeached for disloyalty to the constitution.

    Their reasoning is illogical. If the venue and jury showed such unconscionable bias then convictions should be overturned not sentence. If the conviction is just and congress authorized the death penalty then the sentence Is just. Judicial activism
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    Re: Appeals court vacates Boston Marathon bomber's death sentence, orders new penalty trial

    The politics of Tsarnaev's sentence or the death penalty in general aside for just a moment, I am unsure the appeals court made the right choice.

    The argument was venue for the penalty-phase, as if some other venue might not have been so severe with a sentence because of perceived level of city, area, personal opinion, whatever other impact.

    The judges themselves mentioned their own error suggesting hearing about this or seeing coverage of the event made it national.

    Seems to me this was political motivation absent legal proceeding fault.
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    Re: Appeals court vacates Boston Marathon bomber's death sentence, orders new penalty trial

    The Boston Bombing set the standard for false flag operations in one way.

    Similar to Covid, the entire city of Boston was locked down for a wounded teenager with a pistol. How absurd, but how valuable an exercise for those who manipulate the public perceptions.

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    Re: Appeals court vacates Boston Marathon bomber's death sentence, orders new penalty trial

    Quote Originally Posted by Thoreau72 View Post
    The Boston Bombing set the standard for false flag operations in one way.

    Similar to Covid, the entire city of Boston was locked down for a wounded teenager with a pistol. How absurd, but how valuable an exercise for those who manipulate the public perceptions.
    There was no "false flag"
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    Re: Appeals court vacates Boston Marathon bomber's death sentence, orders new penalty trial

    Quote Originally Posted by Fledermaus View Post
    There was no "false flag"
    Not for you Maus, no.

    For those not wearing your rose-colored glasses, it's very different.

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    Re: Appeals court vacates Boston Marathon bomber's death sentence, orders new penalty trial

    Quote Originally Posted by Thoreau72 View Post
    The Boston Bombing set the standard for false flag operations in one way.

    Similar to Covid, the entire city of Boston was locked down for a wounded teenager with a pistol. How absurd, but how valuable an exercise for those who manipulate the public perceptions.
    This isn't the DERP subforum. Tinfoil town is thataways --->
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    Re: Appeals court vacates Boston Marathon bomber's death sentence, orders new penalty trial

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    Outside is a large concrete box, you could probably fit maybe two cars in it, and it has 20-foot walls, and on the top is a grate. And so if you look straight up, you can see the sky. Maybe if it was high noon, you might get a glimpse of the sun, but really outside there's no balls or anything to do. And then the officer will allow - press the button. You will walk back into your cell, and that's that. And you will not speak with the officer, you're not going to interact with anybody. You're going to pass by the other cells, but the doors are made of solid steel, and they have nickel-sized holes in them. So you can really just maybe see the eyes or some figures behind the wall, but you're not interacting with other inmates, you're not interacting with the officers. And then three times a day somebody comes by and slides a food tray through the slot in the door. You don't really talk to that person. And most of the people that - I spoke to dozens of the people that were at Pelican Bay, and they hadn't spoke to anybody outside this very narrow space in years, let alone touched anybody.


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    Re: Appeals court vacates Boston Marathon bomber's death sentence, orders new penalty trial

    Quote Originally Posted by Thoreau72 View Post
    Not for you Maus, no.

    For those not wearing your rose-colored glasses, it's very different.
    You were asked for your EVIDENCE of false flags a thousand times.*

    And you presented a whole lot of nothing.

    The surviving brother ADMITTED to it as well.





    * Slight hyperbole
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