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Here's what cops have to deal with every day

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That stuff doesn't happen in a vacuum. Police should be able to inform the homeless they can faithfully execute our own laws regarding employment at-will at EDD and to stop causing problems or they are going to learn how to pay fines.
 
There are a lot of jobs in this country that are more dangerous than being a police officer.

When people think of dangerous jobs, they may first think about police officers or firefighters. Despite the well-known risks of these professions, neither firefighters nor police officers are working in the most dangerous jobs in the United States. In fact, these two occupations do not even make the list of the top 10 most dangerous jobs in America.


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10. Taxi drivers – Between vehicle accidents and robberies, drivers who make their living driving people around town have a fatal injury rate of 19.7 per 100,000 workers. The median wage is just $25,000 a year.

9. Power-line installers and repairmen (fatal injury rate of 20.7) – Falls, burns and electrocutions can cause serious or fatal injuries.

8. Truck drivers – (fatal injury rate of 24) Truckers have the most fatalities of any other profession on this list, at 759 workers killed in 2011. Fatigue, equipment accidents and highway incidents are the biggest causes of injury and death to truckers.

7. Farmers and ranchers (fatal injury rate of 25.3) – The machinery and equipment farmers and ranchers use can be dangerous. As increasing numbers of ranchers rely on ATVs, the number of serious ATV-related injuries is rising.

6. Iron workers (fatal injury rate of 26.9) – Falls from structures and structural collapses are the leading causes of injuries and fatalities for those in the profession.

5. Roofers (fatal injury rate of 31.8) – In the same vein as iron-workers, falls and being hit with falling items are leading causes of death for roofers. Roofers also work with dangerous compounds and face the threat of electrocution.

4. Sanitation workers (fatal injury rate of 41.2) – Being stuck by oncoming vehicles is a major risk for those who collect refuse for a living. They also face the risk of serious injury from improperly disposed chemicals and pressurized cans and bottles.

3. Airplane pilots (fatal injury rate of 57) – Alaska has the most pilot fatalities in the U.S. Most accidents are caused by pilot error, but new instruments and cameras that allow pilots to accurately gauge weather conditions could help lower the rate.

2. Loggers (fatal injury rate of 102.4) – The fact that these workers are paid to cut down large trees in difficult terrain with dangerous equipment makes logging one of the most dangerous professions. Many injuries are caused by trees that roll down steep and slippery terrain and strike the workers below. Some of the danger has been alleviated with mechanical cutting arms used by loggers in cabs.

1. Fishermen (fatal injury rate of 121.2) – This shocks many people, other than those in the profession. Large fishing nets and motor-operated fishing lines are some of the dangers. According to CNN, fishing is actually safer than it used to be, due to changes to the fishing quota system and better training.
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The 10 Most Dangerous Jobs in America | San Jose Workplace Injury Lawyers
 
dave8383 said:
There are a lot of jobs in this country that are more dangerous than being a police officer.



The 10 Most Dangerous Jobs in America | San Jose Workplace Injury Lawyers
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That is very misleading. On other jobs, the employees don't have to worry about someone with covid-19 or HIV spitting in their eyes or biting their arm. For other jobs, if you for 1/2 second you are less than NASA grade computer perfect in analysis you are prosecuted for murder. Other jobs don't have someone trying to beat the crap out of you, take your gun or screaming spittle in your face.

The numbers you provide are only for death. Nothing else.
 
danielpalos said:
That stuff doesn't happen in a vacuum. Police should be able to inform the homeless they can faithfully execute our own laws regarding employment at-will at EDD and to stop causing problems or they are going to learn how to pay fines.
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Yes, that is what those officers should have said rather than "put down the gun! put down the gun!"

They should have said: "Let me educate you about EDD! Let me educate you about EDD!"

That would have solved it for sure.
 
The video is very alarming at how much the officers put themselves at risk fearing consequences. For many seconds, the guy in the car could have shot any of them in the head.

The officers literally didn't know what to do. FINALLY - after a painfully long time to watch long them, they finally figured all they can do is shelter - time again again exposing themselves to being murdered as the relocated further and further back.

As I watched it, I wanted to shout out "SHOOT HIM OR RUN AWAY!" That was particularly when he hid himself from their sight holding up a backpack.

Every patrol officer in the USA should quit. I would question how much they really care about their own family for those who don't. They are sitting ducks now rightly terrified if they use deadly force to prevent being murdered by a out of his mind druggie with a gun. Time and again those officers exposed themselves to being murdered - because they more fear government than a man drugged out of his mind with a gun.
 
The other aspect grabbing my attention is that in the era of modern ammo and what criminals and gang bangers have, police limited to 9mm only with ball ammo is like making them carry pocket 25 Saturday night specials from the 1950s.
 
Schism said:
San Diego police video shows officers shooting man who slipped out of handcuffs, grabbed gun | foxnews.com

San Diego police released a video Wednesday of the shooting of a man who slipped off of his handcuffs and fired an officer's gun before he was shot and subdued at police headquarters./QUOTE]



People want to pretend there's a systemic problem with cops.

The only systemic problem is the increase in brazen behavior by violent criminals.
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Well aware.
Three whom our own family have always considered to be as close as blood family are all cops, and all have served with distinction.
Doesn't change the fact that there are mountains of systemic injustices and prejudice riddled throughout the departments in our major cities.

And you denying that while spinning homeric hagiographies of routine officer shootings is just an indicator that you have an agenda.

PS: That particular shooting is a good shoot, no apparent violations are in evidence. Yes, this is another example of good cops being good cops and doing a good job...as if the majority of Americans are being tarred as not understanding that, nice straw man, Schism but I prefer the word LIE, because when one purports to spin lies, one defense is to spin a tale of woe by distorting or inventing a fallacious narrative.

Your agenda is weak.
It's weak because it protects known bad cops by pretending they do not ever exist.

The cop in the family closest to me in age, who I grew up with and went to school with, is currently treating me pretty badly. He's being quite rotten by playing the same kinds of mind games you are.
I'd still have his Six no matter what.

But if he had spent his life being a bad cop, I'd call him out on it even while still having his Six.
People like you never have the guts to even remotely do anything like that.

This shoot, a good routine cop shoot, has absolutely nothing to do with anything at all, it is just one out of thousands of similar instances of cops doing their jobs. It is neither a dismissal of systemic wrongs, nor is it evidence of systemic wrongs, nor is it evidence of anything apart from the fact that despite numerous problems, police still have a job to do and most of them do it.

If we can find ways to lessen the wrongs and mitigate the damage they do, we will wind up winning.
Do you hate winning?
Why do you hate America?
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Schism said:
San Diego police video shows officers shooting man who slipped out of handcuffs, grabbed gun | foxnews.com

San Diego police released a video Wednesday of the shooting of a man who slipped off of his handcuffs and fired an officer's gun before he was shot and subdued at police headquarters./QUOTE]



People want to pretend there's a systemic problem with cops.

The only systemic problem is the increase in brazen behavior by violent criminals.
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Oh look, yet another attempt to excuses abuses committed by police officers by going “but cops have a dangerous job!”
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dave8383 said:
Sure pal. God, the flag, and the cops. The phony patriot trifecta.
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Nearly all BLM protesters are white, not black, and they demand eliminating police protection in black communities - just like the Democratic KKK always has. How do white Democrats celebrate successfully causing the murder in black communities to skyrocket?

Murder blacks out of Democratic run white majority cities. Loot and burn blacks out of Democratic run white majority cities. Terrorize blacks out of Democratic run white majority cities. The perfect white KKK trifecta.

In the past, Democrats only worked on one city at a time against blacks. Now the Democratic KKK is at war with black communities in every white majority city they control.
 
Schism said:
San Diego police video shows officers shooting man who slipped out of handcuffs, grabbed gun | foxnews.com

San Diego police released a video Wednesday of the shooting of a man who slipped off of his handcuffs and fired an officer's gun before he was shot and subdued at police headquarters./QUOTE]



People want to pretend there's a systemic problem with cops.

The only systemic problem is the increase in brazen behavior by violent criminals.
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Maybe they should have done a little better job of handcuffing the perp. Just saying.
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Checkerboard Strangler said:
Schism said:
San Diego police video shows officers shooting man who slipped out of handcuffs, grabbed gun | foxnews.com



Well aware.
Three whom our own family have always considered to be as close as blood family are all cops, and all have served with distinction.
Doesn't change the fact that there are mountains of systemic injustices and prejudice riddled throughout the departments in our major cities.

And you denying that while spinning homeric hagiographies of routine officer shootings is just an indicator that you have an agenda.

PS: That particular shooting is a good shoot, no apparent violations are in evidence. Yes, this is another example of good cops being good cops and doing a good job...as if the majority of Americans are being tarred as not understanding that, nice straw man, Schism but I prefer the word LIE, because when one purports to spin lies, one defense is to spin a tale of woe by distorting or inventing a fallacious narrative.

Your agenda is weak.
It's weak because it protects known bad cops by pretending they do not ever exist.

The cop in the family closest to me in age, who I grew up with and went to school with, is currently treating me pretty badly. He's being quite rotten by playing the same kinds of mind games you are.
I'd still have his Six no matter what.

But if he had spent his life being a bad cop, I'd call him out on it even while still having his Six.
People like you never have the guts to even remotely do anything like that.

This shoot, a good routine cop shoot, has absolutely nothing to do with anything at all, it is just one out of thousands of similar instances of cops doing their jobs. It is neither a dismissal of systemic wrongs, nor is it evidence of systemic wrongs, nor is it evidence of anything apart from the fact that despite numerous problems, police still have a job to do and most of them do it.

If we can find ways to lessen the wrongs and mitigate the damage they do, we will wind up winning.
Do you hate winning?
Why do you hate America?
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Why do you hate black people, demanding elimination of police protection in black communities by making police truly afraid to do anything - even without defunding police to eliminate them entirely from black communities?

As a white Democrat, can you give us the number of how many more hundreds, thousands or tens of thousands of black people the Democratic Party would like to see shot and murdered? Do you Democrats want ALL blacks terrorized, looted and burned out of Democratic Party white majority cities?

Why do you hate cops, demanding they risk their lives needlessly for fear of you cop-haters?

It was a bad shoot. The officers needlessly endangered their own lives. They also allowed him to keep the gun after shot - allowing him back up. Only one officer risked a life in prison willing to fire only 2 shots. The others - unable to do anything without risking prison - left the scene.
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joko104 said:
Tigerace117 said:
What the video shows is that it is government, not criminals, who most endanger police now.
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What the video shows does not change the fact that the murder of George Floyd, and many other African Americans was completely unjustified, and the police throwing a tantrum over any level of accountability sends the message that systematic reform is long overdo.
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Checkerboard Strangler said:
Well aware.
Three whom our own family have always considered to be as close as blood family are all cops, and all have served with distinction.
Doesn't change the fact that there are mountains of systemic injustices and prejudice riddled throughout the departments in our major cities.

And you denying that while spinning homeric hagiographies of routine officer shootings is just an indicator that you have an agenda.

PS: That particular shooting is a good shoot, no apparent violations are in evidence. Yes, this is another example of good cops being good cops and doing a good job...as if the majority of Americans are being tarred as not understanding that, nice straw man, Schism but I prefer the word LIE, because when one purports to spin lies, one defense is to spin a tale of woe by distorting or inventing a fallacious narrative.

Your agenda is weak.
It's weak because it protects known bad cops by pretending they do not ever exist.

The cop in the family closest to me in age, who I grew up with and went to school with, is currently treating me pretty badly. He's being quite rotten by playing the same kinds of mind games you are.
I'd still have his Six no matter what.

But if he had spent his life being a bad cop, I'd call him out on it even while still having his Six.
People like you never have the guts to even remotely do anything like that.

This shoot, a good routine cop shoot, has absolutely nothing to do with anything at all, it is just one out of thousands of similar instances of cops doing their jobs. It is neither a dismissal of systemic wrongs, nor is it evidence of systemic wrongs, nor is it evidence of anything apart from the fact that despite numerous problems, police still have a job to do and most of them do it.

If we can find ways to lessen the wrongs and mitigate the damage they do, we will wind up winning.
Do you hate winning?
Why do you hate America?
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A personal anecdote followed by an unsubstantiated narrative: "Doesn't change the fact that there are mountains of systemic injustices and prejudice riddled throughout the departments in our major cities."

The only problem being that you can't document it, so you post personal attacks and insults, and imagine straw men.

The best sophmoronic line was the last:

Do you hate winning?
Why do you hate America?
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That's about as immature as they come. :lol:

But don't think I didn't hear your seething, bitter tone; it was too over the top to miss. Have a cookie.
 
Virtually ALL claims of police abuse and prejudice is in cities with a Democratic Mayor, Democratic Police Chief, Democratic city council, Democratic DA and all Department heads are Democrats.

Why does the Democratic Party hate black people SO intensely?! Once again, the Democratic Party is getting blacks shot and murdered by the hundreds. The Democratic Party KKK is alive, well, and back to shooting and terrorizing black people in Democratic run, white majority cities.
 
calamity said:
Schism said:
Maybe they should have done a little better job of handcuffing the perp. Just saying.
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"They?"

This wouldn't happen to them homeless people if they didn't get drugged out of their mind.

You'd be screaming of police brutality if they put handcuffs on tight.
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joko104 said:
Cite the penal code against doing so.
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It's somewhere in the Ten Commandments or any other standards of decency and humane conduct. But I also imagine it's in police codes of conduct: Sec. 4, para 8, clearly states that officers "shall not stand with their dicks in their hand while another officer is slowly killing a suspect." You can look it up.
 
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