Man Paroled over Coronavirus Concerns Charged in Slaying

21 year old Heather Perry had survived the coronavirus pandemic, only to meet this creature in an alley.



Perry was 21 and from Denver, Colorado, and had her whole life ahead of her. I hope we can stop paroling human excrement onto the streets now, under some insane quest to protect the excrement from dying of coronavirus. That quest has now gotten actual humans killed.

Heather Perry:





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truthatallcost said:

21 year old Heather Perry had survived the coronavirus pandemic, only to meet this creature in an alley.

Perry was 21 and from Denver, Colorado, and had her whole life ahead of her. I hope we can stop paroling human excrement onto the streets now, under some insane quest to protect the excrement from dying of coronavirus. That quest has now gotten actual humans killed.

Heather Perry:

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Another victim of society.

EMNofSeattle said:

Another victim of society.

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But more specifically, she's a victim of the stupid Democratic governor and Democratic leaders in her state who value the life of a convict over hers. Had she been a black burglar in Georgia, this thread would receive thousands of comments. But she was just a young woman taking a short cut home by using an alley, and liberals don't care about another dead white girl.

Because TAAC and EMNseattle cry rivers when the police murder a black man they mistook for a suspect and they were skeered he might have a gun.


We all know exactly what's going on here.

Mr Person said:

Because TAAC and EMNseattle cry rivers when the police murder a black man they mistook for a suspect and they were skeered he might have a gun.


We all know exactly what's going on here.

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Yes; you're attempting to deflect towards the very rare instances that involve a police officer shooting an unarmed black person, because that's more important to you than the much more common homicides which include a black male perpetrator, and white victims. In fact, you would prefer that the media not even cover these types of crimes, even though they never specify the races of the people involved, or try to draw a conclusion, as they do when the mythical unarmed black male is shot by police.

Do I have you accurately pegged?

truthatallcost said:

But more specifically, she's a victim of the stupid Democratic governor and Democratic leaders in her state who value the life of a convict over hers. Had she been a black burglar in Georgia, this thread would receive thousands of comments. But she was just a young woman taking a short cut home by using an alley, and liberals don't care about another dead white girl.

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This story just further proves Masks don't work. If they did work we wouldn't let criminals out of jail, we would just give them mask.

Mr Person said:

Because TAAC and EMNseattle cry rivers when the police murder a black man they mistook for a suspect and they were skeered he might have a gun.


We all know exactly what's going on here.

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Does being a Nazi in some threads mean that a person is wrong all the time or can a Nazi sometimes point out a wrong?

Integrityrespec said:

This story just further proves Masks don't work. If they did work we wouldn't let criminals out of jail, we would just give them mask.

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a wonderful fallacy of false equivalency

truthatallcost said:

I hope we can stop paroling human excrement onto the streets now, under some insane quest to protect the excrement from dying of coronavirus. That quest has now gotten actual humans killed.

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I question how much this really has to do with coronavirus. The article points out that he has been eligible for parole since 2017 and was due to be automatically released this August. It's also worth noting that his conviction was "only" for robbery, suggesting the new offence could be an escalation rather than a continuation.

So doesn't all that suggest this just yet another example of a failure of the US criminal justice system to even try to rehabilitate criminals and an abject failure to manage parolees in general, regardless of when or why they're released? You can't simply lock every convicted criminal up for life so there has to be much more effort put in to rehabilitation, preventing re-offending and indeed preventing offending by vulnerable people in the first place.

HonestJoe said:

I question how much this really has to do with coronavirus. The article points out that he has been eligible for parole since 2017 and was due to be automatically released this August. It's also worth noting that his conviction was "only" for robbery, suggesting the new offence could be an escalation rather than a continuation.

So doesn't all that suggest this just yet another example of a failure of the US criminal justice system to even try to rehabilitate criminals and an abject failure to manage parolees in general, regardless of when or why they're released? You can't simply lock every convicted criminal up for life so there has to be much more effort put in to rehabilitation, preventing re-offending and indeed preventing offending by vulnerable people in the first place.

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- rehabilitation in prison is not possible unless the offender wants to be rehabilitated. That idea applies to drug addicts as well (they won't sober up until they're good and ready) yet when it comes to men like Haney, you seem to think the burden of responsibility rests on everyone else's shoulders but his.

- judging the level of criminality present in Haney by the one robbery conviction is not a good idea, because offenders who are arrested and charged with multiple felonies are often allowed to bargain the most serious offenses away, if they agree to accept a plea deal, or plead nolo contendre. My experience tells me that Haney probably committed more serious offenses, and opted to take a deal. In some of these cases, offenders have violent felony charges dismissed in exchange for not being a pain in the ass, and demanding a trial, which is what every court wants to avoid. The criminal justice system is so swamped with cases, that some of them don't come to trial for 5-6 years, and murderers sit in county jail during that time, where they cause more problems.

- Referring to Cornelius Haney as a 'vulnerable person' is a bit odd, considering he attempted to kidnap a 21 year old, and shot her to death when she resisted. It seems that people in Haney's vicinity are made vulnerable by his presence, especially young women like Heather. Furthermore, this thread has only managed to receive 10 comments, after I hit the submit button, whereas the number of comments devoted to Ahmaud Arberry number in the thousands. I can count the number of people who seem to care about Heather Perry's life and death on one hand, and have digits to spare. Isn't she more vulnerable, if her life can be taken and no one cares, aside from making excuses for her killer?

truthatallcost said:

- rehabilitation in prison is not possible unless the offender wants to be rehabilitated. That idea applies to drug addicts as well (they won't sober up until they're good and ready) yet when it comes to men like Haney, you seem to think the burden of responsibility rests on everyone else's shoulders but his.

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Obviously, but a lot of criminals do want that, even if they're not ready to admit it, even to themselves. The often need a push in the right direction, even a bit of tough love, but a lot can be achieved with a bit of effort and investment. I've been involved in exactly that myself (though notably via charity rather than government investment). It's a shared responsibility and can only work with effort from both sides. It certainly isn't easy and won't work in all cases but it is a viable approach that can reduce crime.

truthatallcost said:

- judging the level of criminality present in Haney by the one robbery conviction is not a good idea, because offenders who are arrested and charged with multiple felonies are often allowed to bargain the most serious offenses away, if they agree to accept a plea deal, or plead nolo contendre. My experience tells me that Haney probably committed more serious offenses, and opted to take a deal.

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Possibly, but in general terms, the pattern will typically involve an escalation of severity in criminal behaviour which is why nipping the problem in the bud is significant. I'm not saying he should be rehabilitated now, or even following his robbery conviction, I'm suggesting that it should have happened long before that.

truthatallcost said:

The criminal justice system is so swamped with cases, that some of them don't come to trial for 5-6 years, and murderers sit in county jail during that time, where they cause more problems.

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All the more reason to put efforts in to reducing crime via rehabilitation and active prevention rather than simply reacting to it with ever-growing prison populations.

truthatallcost said:

- Referring to Cornelius Haney as a 'vulnerable person' is a bit odd, considering he attempted to kidnap a 21 year old, and shot her to death when she resisted.

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I was speaking in general terms there but they're not actually mutually exclusive concepts. Most criminals don't commit crimes simply because they're fundamentally evil human beings (if that concept even exists, it is extremely rare). There is usually a long story and a whole set of inter-related factors that led them to where they are, many of which we see over and over again. It is perfectly possibly to intervene much earlier in the lives of vulnerable people and redirect them before that leads to an escalating chain of serious crimes.

truthatallcost said:

I can count the number of people who seem to care about Heather Perry's life and death on one hand, and have digits to spare. Isn't she more vulnerable, if her life can be taken and no one cares, aside from making excuses for her killer?

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Simply caring about an individual murder victim is a natural emotional reaction but it doesn't actually achieve anything on it's own. Again, it's shouldn't just be about reacting to tragedies like this after the fact but putting in the time, effort and resources in to preventing them happening in the first place. Prevention doesn't have the emotional appeal of revenge or "justice" but that doesn't mean it isn't the better approach for us all.

truthatallcost said:

21 year old Heather Perry had survived the coronavirus pandemic, only to meet this creature in an alley.

Perry was 21 and from Denver, Colorado, and had her whole life ahead of her. I hope we can stop paroling human excrement onto the streets now, under some insane quest to protect the excrement from dying of coronavirus. That quest has now gotten actual humans killed.

Heather Perry:

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:yawn:

truthatallcost said:

21 year old Heather Perry had survived the coronavirus pandemic, only to meet this creature in an alley.

Perry was 21 and from Denver, Colorado, and had her whole life ahead of her. I hope we can stop paroling human excrement onto the streets now, under some insane quest to protect the excrement from dying of coronavirus. That quest has now gotten actual humans killed.

Heather Perry:

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He is not a Man of his word.

truthatallcost said:

21 year old Heather Perry had survived the coronavirus pandemic, only to meet this creature in an alley.



Perry was 21 and from Denver, Colorado, and had her whole life ahead of her. I hope we can stop paroling human excrement onto the streets now, under some insane quest to protect the excrement from dying of coronavirus. That quest has now gotten actual humans killed.





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So, the release happens 3 weeks before the killing. Haney had been in jail for 4 years for robbery (article doesn't indicate that it was aggravated by any violence or being armed or even if it was of a person rather than a place) and the article doesn't indicate that he had a history of violence. But you're claiming that somehow the DoC should have been able to divine that he would commit a murder (allegedly--he hasn't been tried much less convicted yet except by people like you). I suspect your solution to this would be to lynch now and get the conviction later, right?

truthatallcost said:

- I can count the number of people who seem to care about Heather Perry's life and death on one hand, and have digits to spare. Isn't she more vulnerable, if her life can be taken and no one cares, aside from making excuses for her killer?

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And we have no reason to believe you're one of them as opposed to the usual rightwing type who likes to use her death to push their "lynch 'em all" solution to crime. Of course, that seems to apply only to perps of color since you're already on record here of trying every usual and thin excuse to justify the murder of Ahmaud Arbery by three white men. You people must think we don't know who you are despite generations of meeting your kind time and time again.

Integrityrespec said:

This story just further proves Masks don't work. If they did work we wouldn't let criminals out of jail, we would just give them mask.

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True. Releasing criminals because of covid-19 proves such governors don't believe a damn lie they tell.

digitusmedius said:

And we have no reason to believe you're one of them as opposed to the usual rightwing type who likes to use her death to push their "lynch 'em all" solution to crime. Of course, that seems to apply only to perps of color since you're already on record here of trying every usual and thin excuse to justify the murder of Ahmaud Arbery by three white men. You people must think we don't know who you are despite generations of meeting your kind time and time again.

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As a progressive Democrat you dutifully defend a murderer by trying to derail the topic to an attack against police. Is there any rapist, pedophile or murderer you don't rush to the defense of?

Why have those arrested for the murder not been released because of covid-19?

digitusmedius said:

you're claiming that somehow the DoC should have been able to divine that he would commit a murder

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For ****s sake... NO. The point is that this ****ing scumbag should not have been released from prison in the first place....

**** all **** to hell your posts are so ****ing goddamn stupid that it hurts my brain to even read one of them...

joko104 said:

As a progressive Democrat you dutifully defend a murderer by trying to derail the topic to an attack against police. Is there any rapist, pedophile or murderer you don't rush to the defense of?

Why have those arrested for the murder not been released because of covid-19?

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As the biggest purveyor of lies and rightwing filth in general on this site (and I'm sure on all the other ones you pollute), joko, your bull**** just inspires me to keep smacking your sort down.

truthatallcost said:

But more specifically, she's a victim of the stupid Democratic governor and Democratic leaders in her state who value the life of a convict over hers. Had she been a black burglar in Georgia, this thread would receive thousands of comments. But she was just a young woman taking a short cut home by using an alley, and liberals don't care about another dead white girl.

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They are Democrats, not liberals.

Bodhisattva said:

For ****s sake... NO. The point is that this ****ing scumbag should not have been released from prison in the first place....

**** all **** to hell your posts are so ****ing goddamn stupid that it hurts my brain to even read one of them...

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Well, I certainly hit all of your understandably raw nerves. He was an incarcerated non-violent offender in jail at risk for getting a death sentence by covid-19. Did you object to Manafort's release for the same reason? His crimes were much more serious and numerous than this guy's.

digitusmedius said:

Well, I certainly hit all of your understandably raw nerves. He was an incarcerated non-violent offender in jail at risk for getting a death sentence by covid-19. Did you object to Manafort's release for the same reason? His crimes were much more serious and numerous than this guy's.

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So you agree that masks and social distancing doesn't work, don't you?

digitusmedius said:

As the biggest purveyor of lies and rightwing filth in general on this site (and I'm sure on all the other ones you pollute), joko, your bull**** just inspires me to keep smacking your sort down.

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You are another progressive who usually is incapable of posting a response, to pretends the upstairs is the basement making personal attacks to cover your apparent intellectual laziness or incapacity.

jamesbyoung said:

a wonderful fallacy of false equivalency

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No it's not. It proves that governor doesn't believe what the governor has ordered imposed on everyone. Masks and social distancing doesn't protect anyone.

EMNofSeattle said:

Another victim of society.

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No, a victim of a progressive Democrat dictator who doesn't even believe his own orders imposed on everyone.