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Horowitz says the FBI screwed up the page investigation

justabubba

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Problems in F.B.I. Wiretap Applications Go Beyond Trump Aide Surveillance, Review Finds - The New York Times

oh no, the horowitz damning conclusion that will send many prominent democrats to jail:

Problems in F.B.I. Wiretap Applications Go Beyond Trump Aide Surveillance, Review Finds


The bureau has routinely botched work on surveillance applications for its national security investigations, an inspector general said.

clearly not turning out to be a good year for the regressives
 
~ Don't expect any indictments or criminal charges for these DOJ/FBI hacks. They all protect each other. Horowitz was just a show. Barr & Durham will also be a dud.
 
The repressive Republicans think administrative error in the Mueller investigation will result in indictments?

Not yet, not now, not at all.
 
Problems in F.B.I. Wiretap Applications Go Beyond Trump Aide Surveillance, Review Finds - The New York Times

oh no, the horowitz damning conclusion that will send many prominent democrats to jail:



clearly not turning out to be a good year for the regressives


You misread/misunderstood/failed to comprehend the article relative to your claim which implies wrongdoing for political purpose. The following excerpt from the article you posted says it all:

"It undercuts the narrative fostered by President Trump and his supporters that the botching of applications to surveil his campaign adviser Carter Page is evidence that the F.B.I. engaged in a politically biased conspiracy."

Your claim is refuted by your own article/evidence/support of same.
 
Once again from justabubba to bluesmoke:

"It undercuts the narrative fostered by President Trump and his supporters that the botching of applications to surveil his campaign adviser Carter Page is evidence that the F.B.I. engaged in a politically biased conspiracy."

Your claim is refuted by your own article/evidence/support of same.

A trump can only be played once in a game, and American politics is a never ending game.
 
A trump can only be played once in a game, and American politics is a never ending game.

Currently a game of the cheapest dumbest most immoral type....which is one of the huge reasons America sucks so badly now.

At least in Washington.....these are some nasty low work people mostly....cant even get their **** together in a serious pandemic when a depression is likely here...







barf.
 
The repressive Republicans think administrative error in the Mueller investigation will result in indictments?

Not yet, not now, not at all.

Umm this folks is what happens when you are a leftist. you basically ignore any and all facts

Testing the FISA applications against their underlying evidence “identified apparent errors or inadequately supported facts in all of the 25 applications we reviewed,” the report said.

The other four could not be scrutinized at all because the F.B.I. could not even locate the required Woods file. In the 25 applications reviewed, there was an average of about 20 problems each. One alone had 65 issues.

This isn't administrative. administrative error is putting the folder under N instead of M.
administrative error is mistyping someone's name because you didn't proof read.

Not having the damn files to begin with is not administrative.
Not having any evidence at all list that it was verified and proven to be true is not administrative.

that is called perjury and gross criminal negligence.
 
Problems in F.B.I. Wiretap Applications Go Beyond Trump Aide Surveillance, Review Finds - The New York Times

oh no, the horowitz damning conclusion that will send many prominent democrats to jail:

clearly not turning out to be a good year for the regressives

YOu didn't read your own article did you?
it basically says everything that we said was happening.

The only way to fix it is to fire and hold those that committed crimes responsible.
will it happen no because the state protects itself which is why the FBI is in the mess that it is in.

People should be disgusted that our nations supposed top law enforcement agency is behaving in this matter.
 
You misread/misunderstood/failed to comprehend the article relative to your claim which implies wrongdoing for political purpose. The following excerpt from the article you posted says it all:

"It undercuts the narrative fostered by President Trump and his supporters that the botching of applications to surveil his campaign adviser Carter Page is evidence that the F.B.I. engaged in a politically biased conspiracy."

Your claim is refuted by your own article/evidence/support of same.

Now there's a top quality explanation! "We ****ed up all the warrant applications, not just his!"
 
jamesbyoung
The repressive Republicans think administrative error in the Mueller investigation will result in indictments?

Not yet, not now, not at all.

Umm this folks is what happens when you are a leftist. you basically ignore any and all facts Testing the FISA applications against their underlying evidence “identified apparent errors or inadequately supported facts in all of the 25 applications we reviewed,” the report said. The other four could not be scrutinized at all because the F.B.I. could not even locate the required Woods file. In the 25 applications reviewed, there was an average of about 20 problems each. One alone had 65 issues. This isn't administrative. administrative error is putting the folder under N instead of M. administrative error is mistyping someone's name because you didn't proof read. Not having the damn files to begin with is not administrative.
Not having any evidence at all list that it was verified and proven to be true is not administrative. that is called perjury and gross criminal negligence.

That is 'perjury and gross criminal negligence' in the minds of the woefully ignorant. The DOJ would charge them with crimes if it could. It can't.
 
jamesbyoung
The repressive Republicans think administrative error in the Mueller investigation will result in indictments?

Not yet, not now, not at all.



That is 'perjury and gross criminal negligence' in the minds of the woefully ignorant. The DOJ would charge them with crimes if it could. It can't.

No the DOJ will not charge them because that is how corrupt our government has become.
Comey and McCabe both lied to federal investigators.

yet while other people are getting 6 years in prison they were let go scott free with no repercussions even if they
broke the same damn laws.
 
No the DOJ will not charge them because that is how corrupt our government has become. Comey and McCabe both lied to federal investigators. yet while other people are getting 6 years in prison they were let go scott free with no repercussions even if they broke the same damn laws.

That's like, man, just your opinion. :)
 
That's like, man, just your opinion. :)

no those are called facts which we know that leftist can't handle. which is why you have no argument.
 
no those are called facts which we know that leftist can't handle. which is why you have no argument.

No, they are righty opinions not grounded in facts. Your opinionated feelings have no meaning in discussion. Tis what is. There will be no criminal indictments because the screw ups did not rise to the level of crimes, and such are the facts.
 
No, they are righty opinions not grounded in facts. Your opinionated feelings have no meaning in discussion. Tis what is. There will be no criminal indictments because the screw ups did not rise to the level of crimes, and such are the facts.

No there will be no charges because our justice system has been so corrupted by the people that run it that if you are a part of the system then you can almost get away with anything.
You spouting your opinion is meaningless so have a nice day. again you can't argue facts. which is typical of most leftist.

If their crimes of lying do not rise to prosecution then you agree that we should let stone and other go free as well.
glad you are being honest.
 
jamesbyoung
No, they are righty opinions not grounded in facts. Your opinionated feelings have no meaning in discussion. Tis what is. There will be no criminal indictments because the screw ups did not rise to the level of crimes, and such are the facts.

No there will be no charges because our justice system has been so corrupted by the people that run it that if you are a part of the system then you can almost get away with anything. You spouting your opinion is meaningless so have a nice day. again you can't argue facts. which is typical of most leftist. If their crimes of lying do not rise to prosecution then you agree that we should let stone and other go free as well. glad you are being honest.

I am no more a leftist than you are a supporter of the American justice system. You are spouting, Ludin, far right wing fantasies.

That type of nonsense simply will not be accepted in our system.
 
The democratic sweep this fall will take the WH, the Congress, and most of the states.

We will pass the NPV in time for 2024, and the Congress will add four new seats to the SCOTUS in order to stop and then reverse the far right wing fascism of American culture and economics.

That will only be the beginning of the reckoning with the betrayers of the GOP.
 
Umm this folks is what happens when you are a leftist. you basically ignore any and all facts

Testing the FISA applications against their underlying evidence “identified apparent errors or inadequately supported facts in all of the 25 applications we reviewed,” the report said.

The other four could not be scrutinized at all because the F.B.I. could not even locate the required Woods file. In the 25 applications reviewed, there was an average of about 20 problems each. One alone had 65 issues.

This isn't administrative. administrative error is putting the folder under N instead of M.
administrative error is mistyping someone's name because you didn't proof read.

Not having the damn files to begin with is not administrative.
Not having any evidence at all list that it was verified and proven to be true is not administrative.

that is called perjury and gross criminal negligence.
[emphasis added by bubba]

it would appear from this post that your conclusion is Horowitz is a leftist
 
YOu didn't read your own article did you?
it basically says everything that we said was happening.

The only way to fix it is to fire and hold those that committed crimes responsible.
will it happen no because the state protects itself which is why the FBI is in the mess that it is in.

People should be disgusted that our nations supposed top law enforcement agency is behaving in this matter.

yep, i read it

and what it told me is your side is totally off base

the regressives could not wait until the Horowitz report came out. they predicted it was going to result in Comey and other high ranking FBI officials perp walking tinto prison

as it turns out FISA court requests are commonly fraught with errors ... and those errors were not made as a result of political maneuvering

words are inadequate to covey how delighted i am to see how sad the reich wing is about Horowitz' investigative conclusions
 
[emphasis added by bubba]

it would appear from this post that your conclusion is Horowitz is a leftist

not at all horowitz exposes the FBI for their underhanded and blindingly illegal activities which we knew was going on.
that you all claimed didn't happen.

Wray needs to clean house and start firing people and arresting others for gross criminal negligence.
perjury and other such charges until the FBI agents know that this type of unethical behavior will not be tolerated.

A form of decimation needs to be enacted in the FBI in order to restore it to a law enforcement organization not a political organization.

your emphasis is meaningless.
 
yep, i read it

and what it told me is your side is totally off base

the regressives could not wait until the Horowitz report came out. they predicted it was going to result in Comey and other high ranking FBI officials perp walking tinto prison

as it turns out FISA court requests are commonly fraught with errors ... and those errors were not made as a result of political maneuvering

words are inadequate to covey how delighted i am to see how sad the reich wing is about Horowitz' investigative conclusions

Yes comey and McCabe should be in prison already for lying to federal investigators multiple times.
in fact we just sent 2 people to prison for a few years for doing that exact same thing.

are you saying that lying to investigators is ok as long as you are head of that agency?
because that sounds like what you are saying?

horrowitz shows other crimes and illegal activity such as criminal mischief and perjury.
do you not agree that all those people should not be charged accordingly?

the FBI is a disaster at this point and Wray will not do a damn thing about it to fix it.
IE this means setting an example of start firing people for conduct unbecoming and arresting them on perjury charges etc ...
lying to federal officers etc ...
 
not at all horowitz exposes the FBI for their underhanded and blindingly illegal activities which we knew was going on.
that you all claimed didn't happen.
just as progressives represented, there was no political use of the FISA court
Horowitz has now proven that
which means the reich wing was wrong in making such an allegation

Wray needs to clean house and start firing people and arresting others for gross criminal negligence.
perjury and other such charges until the FBI agents know that this type of unethical behavior will not be tolerated.

A form of decimation needs to be enacted in the FBI in order to restore it to a law enforcement organization not a political organization.

your emphasis is meaningless.
adequate FISA oversight is what is needed. Horowitz documented it

the emphasis was added to highlight the bogus accusations of the reich wing
 
Yes comey and McCabe should be in prison already for lying to federal investigators multiple times.
in fact we just sent 2 people to prison for a few years for doing that exact same thing.

are you saying that lying to investigators is ok as long as you are head of that agency?
because that sounds like what you are saying?

horrowitz shows other crimes and illegal activity such as criminal mischief and perjury.
do you not agree that all those people should not be charged accordingly?

the FBI is a disaster at this point and Wray will not do a damn thing about it to fix it.
IE this means setting an example of start firing people for conduct unbecoming and arresting them on perjury charges etc ...
lying to federal officers etc ...

i agree with making a criminal referral for each person Horowitz named as warrantiung a criminal referral
you are invited to list them all

allow me to help you with that list. here they are:
 
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