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    Re: How do you deal with cackling hens in the office space?

    Quote Originally Posted by SDET View Post
    I have an answer in mind, but I want to see other's answers first before I chime in.

    Scenario: Imagine retracing your steps through 15,000 lines of code as a final verification to make sure you haven't missed handling any application state. There's not only all those lines of code, but all the entity relationships.

    Half way through these hens start cackling things like "My husband had better have done the dishes when I get home or someone is sleeping on the couch." That's just an example, but it can be any mindless non-work-related conversation.

    What would you do to remedy such a scenario?
    Why was this posted in the Law and Order forum?

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    Re: How do you deal with cackling hens in the office space?

    Quote Originally Posted by SDET View Post
    I have an answer in mind, but I want to see other's answers first before I chime in.

    Scenario: Imagine retracing your steps through 15,000 lines of code as a final verification to make sure you haven't missed handling any application state. There's not only all those lines of code, but all the entity relationships.

    Half way through these hens start cackling things like "My husband had better have done the dishes when I get home or someone is sleeping on the couch." That's just an example, but it can be any mindless non-work-related conversation.

    What would you do to remedy such a scenario?
    Get headphones to drown out the distractions. Talk to supervisors to see if there is a way to provide a less distracting environment.

    Ask supervisors to set a requirement for complete silence in the work place. (Good luck with that)

    Find a way to stop focusing on the distractions.
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    Re: How do you deal with cackling hens in the office space?

    If the women are spending more time talking then working, then there may not be enough work for both and one could be laid off.
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    Re: How do you deal with cackling hens in the office space?

    Waaaah those women bein mean to meh again waaaaah!

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    Re: How do you deal with cackling hens in the office space?

    Because a lawsuit is the best way of dealing with them.

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    Re: How do you deal with cackling hens in the office space?

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    Up until my mid 20s, they were a solid wall of rejection. I got this crazy idea of finding what I wanted in the slums of Rio de Janeiro or being killed, I didn't care which. That trip melted all my problems away. The odd thing is, it wasn't just the women, essentially all the residents of Rochinha treated me the way I always wanted to be treated. Money is the only reason I return to the USA. Seeing the extreme contrast is eye opening. It tells the that I don't have to put up with bull**** from American women on any level. A lawsuit is the best way to address a disagreement with an American woman.

    Nothing messed me up. The above-styled contrast is what drives my mindset.
    The rejection clearly "messed you up." Does it bother you at all that when these foreign women look at you they see dollar signs and this is the same behavior you accuse American women of? If these women in third world countries weren't in dire financial situation, I'd wager they'd never willingly let you touch them. Yet you prey on them anyway and expose yourself and your spouse to a plethora of disease. A good therapist and open communication would go a long way - not a jab, I know this from experience.
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    Re: How do you deal with cackling hens in the office space?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Incredulous View Post
    The rejection clearly "messed you up." Does it bother you at all that when these foreign women look at you they see dollar signs and this is the same behavior you accuse American women of? If these women in third world countries weren't in dire financial situation, I'd wager they'd never willingly let you touch them. Yet you prey on them anyway and expose yourself and your spouse to a plethora of disease. A good therapist and open communication would go a long way - not a jab, I know this from experience.
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    Re: How do you deal with cackling hens in the office space?

    Quote Originally Posted by SDET View Post
    Because a lawsuit is the best way of dealing with them.
    Who would you sue?

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    Re: How do you deal with cackling hens in the office space?

    The company for ADA violations, failure to make a reasonable accommodation.

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    Who would you sue?
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    Re: How do you deal with cackling hens in the office space?

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    Now, I will chime in with my experience. First of all companies go to great lengths to protect these busybodies. HR departments generally have a "women first" mentality and protect women and are generally staffed by women. I have seen companies move whole departments to accommodate such gossips. They call it "collaboration" They become annoyed at the "whiny geeks. But "whiny geeks" have to be tolerated unless they want to go back to metal filing cabinets and manila folders.

    The steps stop when the problem gets solved.

    Step 1: See if others are being impeded by the chatter and complain as a group

    Step 2: See if your manager can solve the problem. Don't mention a specific solution; see if your manager comes up with something you didn't think of.

    Step 3: See if you can get a diagnosis for some disability that is aggravated by noise

    Step 4: Send a certified letter to HR including the diagnosis. Do not discuss verbally, which will leave the company room for deniability. Some solutions are:
    Recognize that not respecting others work situation, especially if it affects multiple people, is unprofessional and enforce a quiet work area
    Being allowed to work remotely. However in some companies WFH is a coveted perk only for the most preferred employees and highly political.
    Being given a work area in an isolated part of the building.
    Locate department where teams that need lots of concentration are kept together. Don't put your IT development team next to HR
    Have "huddle rooms" for those that need to work undisturbed.

    Step 5: If HR is unresponsive to your letter, begin the process of suing the company. Inform the legal department of each step you take.

    Step 6: If the company STILL won't budge, offer to resign in exchange for SIX MONTHS severance. Don't accept less than that.

    Step 7: Picket the company for being hostile to the disabled. Such picketing is an EEOC protected activity. If the company retaliates for this action, that's a separate and additional lawsuit

    Step 8: Continue your legal action until you either get a substantial settlement or a judgment against the company.

    In the above process: AVOID SAYING OR DOING ANYTHING THAT THE COMPANY CAN USE AGAINST YOU!!!!
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