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We men are tired of ....

The trick is not to be angry and think of a good strategy how NOT to suffer the same fate. The only thing that can't be escaped is all the public messaging of "toxic masculinity", "women first", "girl power" (how is that different from "white power"?). Learn from the suffering of others. If you see someone on the side of the road using a gas can, it's a good idea to glance at YOUR gas gauge. Prevent problems before they become your problems. It works great for me!

White power has been known for decades of terror, mass murder, and oppression. Its the slogan of insidious people. Girl power? Not so much. Nothing exists in a vacuum.
 
We are tired of being the caretakers of emotionally stunted men like him.

Five bucks says a lot of these "men" have trouble getting dates, finding a wife and/or sexual issues.

Doesn't it always come back to money and sex anyway?
 
I agree with all except for a small modification at the end. I would have said, cross our arms and stop working.



Any post that pretends that all men share any view what so ever is profoundly and completely absurd and wrong. "we men" cannot be tired of anything. Without even watching the video this man is wrong, and you are certainly wrong.
 
White power has been known for decades of terror, mass murder, and oppression. Its the slogan of insidious people. Girl power? Not so much. Nothing exists in a vacuum.

White power is certainly worse than girl power, however, I don't agree with any "power".
 
White power is certainly worse than girl power, however, I don't agree with any "power".

I dunno, empowering people who have historically been denied isnt really a problem.
 
MGTOW is a pretty new and, unfortunately a needed phenomenon. The balance of power has shifted so far in US society that men are turning away from marriage and long-term relationships because they can be so toxic. Any of us men that have been around for a while have seen male friends dragged through divorce court and treated unfairly. I'm a older guy (late 50s) and I can count on one hand the older guys I know that didn't get the short end of the deal in their marriage.

BTW, the idea is supposed to be discussed, not "let's pig-pile on the guy we disagree with". Too many personal attacks in this thread.
 
I dunno, empowering people who have historically been denied isnt really a problem.

Promoting any "power" implies one is better than the other. Equality is great. The idea of woman power, or white power, or any other power one is born with is not imo. Skin color or genetalia is not a power.
 
MGTOW is a pretty new and, unfortunately a needed phenomenon. The balance of power has shifted so far in US society that men are turning away from marriage and long-term relationships because they can be so toxic. Any of us men that have been around for a while have seen male friends dragged through divorce court and treated unfairly. I'm a older guy (late 50s) and I can count on one hand the older guys I know that didn't get the short end of the deal in their marriage.

BTW, the idea is supposed to be discussed, not "let's pig-pile on the guy we disagree with". Too many personal attacks in this thread.

Balance of power has shifted...oh, poor baby, those nasty women got equality and you lost some of your faux superiority.

Try treating women with respect and dignity, you will be surprised what happens...
 
MGTOW is a pretty new and, unfortunately a needed phenomenon. The balance of power has shifted so far in US society that men are turning away from marriage and long-term relationships because they can be so toxic. Any of us men that have been around for a while have seen male friends dragged through divorce court and treated unfairly. I'm a older guy (late 50s) and I can count on one hand the older guys I know that didn't get the short end of the deal in their marriage.

BTW, the idea is supposed to be discussed, not "let's pig-pile on the guy we disagree with". Too many personal attacks in this thread.

Men aren't turning away long term relationships and marriage. The men who agree with your thinking don't have that opportunity. When someone gets to know those types of men they don't want marriage with those pathetic boys. The idea that a man meets a wonderful woman and then refuses to marry her because they might get divorced and he'll be treated unfairly in divorce is absurd.

To be honest with you I am more disgusted with the whiny men who run around crying about things aren't fair for them. "It's unfair, it's unfair. People are mean to me. People who pee like me told me their twisted narrative of their marriage and I'm scared."

To use a bit of a cliche - man up. Life's not fair.
 
I have a better idea than "man up". Don't be a sucker.

Men aren't turning away long term relationships and marriage. The men who agree with your thinking don't have that opportunity. When someone gets to know those types of men they don't want marriage with those pathetic boys. The idea that a man meets a wonderful woman and then refuses to marry her because they might get divorced and he'll be treated unfairly in divorce is absurd.

To be honest with you I am more disgusted with the whiny men who run around crying about things aren't fair for them. "It's unfair, it's unfair. People are mean to me. People who pee like me told me their twisted narrative of their marriage and I'm scared."

To use a bit of a cliche - man up. Life's not fair.
 
I have a better idea than "man up". Don't be a sucker.

Be afraid of those big bad females trying to use you. Life must be terrible for you victims. First the demmycrats are after your money, then the minorities. Now the women. Its like the meetings with rich white men is the only place your safe. Unless.......OMG what if white men start craving money and power too. We'd be doomed. DOOOOOOOMED
 
Turning away is certainly one option. I prefer to treat a relationship like eating catfish (no pun intended). Be very very careful not to choke on the bones. The key is to arrange one's situation to be prepared for a snap divorce at any time. It has worked well for me. Human interaction is all about leverage. Arrange your contacts and circumstances for maximum leverage. For example, a married man should NEVER own a house. Owning a house incentivizes a wife to invent abuse charges to gain control over the house. One place to put money is in a college fund that can ONLY be accessed by the beneficiary.

MGTOW is a pretty new and, unfortunately a needed phenomenon. The balance of power has shifted so far in US society that men are turning away from marriage and long-term relationships because they can be so toxic. Any of us men that have been around for a while have seen male friends dragged through divorce court and treated unfairly. I'm a older guy (late 50s) and I can count on one hand the older guys I know that didn't get the short end of the deal in their marriage.

BTW, the idea is supposed to be discussed, not "let's pig-pile on the guy we disagree with". Too many personal attacks in this thread.
 
Promoting any "power" implies one is better than the other. Equality is great. The idea of woman power, or white power, or any other power one is born with is not imo. Skin color or genetalia is not a power.

Not really. Do you understand the concept of punching up and punching down?
 
I'm glad that you dodged the bullet.

The majority of men dodge the bullet.
The majority of divorces in this country have always been somewhat amicable.

Not all, note that I said "the MAJORITY".
 
MGTOW is a pretty new and, unfortunately a needed phenomenon. The balance of power has shifted so far in US society that men are turning away from marriage and long-term relationships because they can be so toxic. Any of us men that have been around for a while have seen male friends dragged through divorce court and treated unfairly. I'm a older guy (late 50s) and I can count on one hand the older guys I know that didn't get the short end of the deal in their marriage.

BTW, the idea is supposed to be discussed, not "let's pig-pile on the guy we disagree with". Too many personal attacks in this thread.

I'm the same age and what I've seen is that both contribute to those failures in almost every case...except the ones where there was cheating or abuse. And in all those cases (in what "I've seen" only)...those were men that did that.
 
Obviously it's a good idea to put the risk in perspective. I just don't like to see people get blindsided. Having crappy adult sisters growing up is a world better than the sucker that has a crappy wife. I am grateful beyond words that I entered adulthood fully aware of women's games and bull crap. "Look at the free house I got from my ex." :roll:

The majority of men dodge the bullet.
The majority of divorces in this country have always been somewhat amicable.

Not all, note that I said "the MAJORITY".
 
Turning away is certainly one option. I prefer to treat a relationship like eating catfish (no pun intended). Be very very careful not to choke on the bones. The key is to arrange one's situation to be prepared for a snap divorce at any time. It has worked well for me. Human interaction is all about leverage. Arrange your contacts and circumstances for maximum leverage. For example, a married man should NEVER own a house. Owning a house incentivizes a wife to invent abuse charges to gain control over the house. One place to put money is in a college fund that can ONLY be accessed by the beneficiary.
I am curious...does this aforementioned spouse work for a living?

Most women I know work full time as do their spouses. Who are all these non working non contributing spouses that put nothing into the house let alone the household?

The people I know that intentionally have periods of non work is usually to manage another part of the household - caring for children and/or aging parents. BTW, I know more "stay at home" dads than moms. That probably has to do with being in a well paid female dominated profession. The person with the best income/benefits works at a paid job. The other cares for the children (and/or aging parents) and the house.
 
MGTOW is a pretty new and,

You have twenty-two posts here and you don't know the history.
That said, MGTOW is not new at all, it's very very old.
In the early to mid twentieth century lots of "He-Man Women Haterz" clubs sprung up all over the country.

Same gripes, dames ain't worth it. Same type of membership. Same personality flaws.
I have a close family member, an in law, who has been suffering nonstop attacks on everything, his military retirement, his VA disability pension, his Social Security, even his real property.

Know what? He caused it. He caused ALL of it because the lady who has been pursuing him nonstop walked in on him cheating on her with her best friend, who he is married to today. So the jilted first wife is, in a very real sense, trying to punish the both of them.

And this all happened well over thirty years ago. And her legal battles against him started well over thirty years ago.

My OWN divorce from my first wife? Pretty difficult, but only because she was half out of her gourd thanks to drug addiction.
When, after four tries and nearly fourteen years, the marshals finally caught up with her to serve the divorce papers, she thought I was having her arrested.

She literally said:
"Are you having me arrested?"

For WHAT? Bad marriage?? :lamo
I just wanted her to sign off so I could legally end a marriage that had already ended fourteen years earlier.
So she signed right on the line and that was that, no fault, no contest, just a signed decree faxed 1500 miles away to where I stood in the courthouse with my lawyer.

But it took four tries and repeated attempts with detectives to track her down.
 
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You have twenty-two posts here and you don't know the history.
That said, MGTOW is not new at all, it's very very old.
In the early to mid twentieth century lots of "He-Man Women Haterz" clubs sprung up all over the country.

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...women who only allege to believe in Equality.

"i am too chicken to try to use women for free when i don't have any money."

equal work for equal pay!
 
What's the short and sweet of this video? I don't want YouTube to think I'm an a-hole by clicking the link.
 
Absolutely not! For starters, it's a man's job to provide for his family. Secondly, the last thing I would want is an Americanized wife. After almost two decades of marriage she learned barely enough English to pass the citizenship test after more than a decade of study. She is a bit traumatized from when we lived in Tennessee for awhile and was heavily discriminated against. After that she practically begged me to live in places with a high Latino population. She also figures that if someone like myself born in the USA avoids my own countrymen/countrywomen that it would 100 times as brutal for her. She learned Spanish, but has no interest in learning any more English now that she's a citizen. I don't want her to assimilate AND I am working on dissimulating. The USA is for making money and it's a society that best functions at arms length. It's not for socializing nor fraternization.

I am curious...does this aforementioned spouse work for a living?

Most women I know work full time as do their spouses. Who are all these non working non contributing spouses that put nothing into the house let alone the household?

The people I know that intentionally have periods of non work is usually to manage another part of the household - caring for children and/or aging parents. BTW, I know more "stay at home" dads than moms. That probably has to do with being in a well paid female dominated profession. The person with the best income/benefits works at a paid job. The other cares for the children (and/or aging parents) and the house.
 
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I agree with all except for a small modification at the end. I would have said, cross our arms and stop working.



You do not speak for "we men."
 
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