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We men are tired of ....

I didn't claim to speak for anyone. I just posted a video by "Coach Red Pill". Have you had your eyes checked recently?

Mr Person said:
You do not speak for "we men."
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SDET said:
I didn't claim to speak for anyone. I just posted a video by "Coach Red Pill". Have you had your eyes checked recently?
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beefheart said:
Balance of power has shifted...oh, poor baby, those nasty women got equality and you lost some of your faux superiority.

Try treating women with respect and dignity, you will be surprised what happens...
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They will vote Republican?
 
Context would tell you that "we" means the men that "Coach Red Pill" is acquainted with. I mean, if you're a masochist and enjoy the treatment he describes in the video, that's your business. I do believe if men were stricter gatekeepers of whom they agree to interact with that they would be less frustrated.

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SDET said:
Absolutely not! For starters, it's a man's job to provide for his family. Secondly, the last thing I would want is an Americanized wife. After almost two decades of marriage she learned barely enough English to pass the citizenship test after more than a decade of study. She is a bit traumatized from when we lived in Tennessee for awhile and was heavily discriminated against. After that she practically begged me to live in places with a high Latino population. She also figures that if someone like myself born in the USA avoids my own countrymen/countrywomen that it would 100 times as brutal for her. She learned Spanish, but has no interest in learning any more English now that she's a citizen. I don't want her to assimilate AND I am working on dissimulating. The USA is for making money and it's a society that best functions at arms length. It's not for socializing nor fraternization.
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So this woman who you hand picked to totally need you on every level...if something happens to the marriage you have essentially hidden most of your assets (per your comments) to make sure she cannot survive without you. That is not a wife, that is a captive.
 
She's got mommy and daddy a twelve hour drive away if she were to want out that bad. That was actually one of the things that motivated her to marry me. At age 21 she knew it was no longer right to be a burden on her parents. Actually, her old man told me that irrespective of any USA death penalty, that he would hunt me down and kill me if I ever abandoned his daughter.

year2late said:
So this woman who you hand picked to totally need you on every level...if something happens to the marriage you have essentially hidden most of your assets (per your comments) to make sure she cannot survive without you. That is not a wife, that is a captive.
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SDET said:
Absolutely not! For starters, it's a man's job to provide for his family. Secondly, the last thing I would want is an Americanized wife. After almost two decades of marriage she learned barely enough English to pass the citizenship test after more than a decade of study. She is a bit traumatized from when we lived in Tennessee for awhile and was heavily discriminated against. After that she practically begged me to live in places with a high Latino population. She also figures that if someone like myself born in the USA avoids my own countrymen/countrywomen that it would 100 times as brutal for her. She learned Spanish, but has no interest in learning any more English now that she's a citizen. I don't want her to assimilate AND I am working on dissimulating. The USA is for making money and it's a society that best functions at arms length. It's not for socializing nor fraternization.
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Encouraging your wife not to learn English is a great way to marginalize and control her. Do you allow her to drive a car? Have friends?
 
I had to "spoon feed" her driving knowledge AND pay for a driving school and it still took her FIVE YEARS to get her license. Her belief that it's not a woman's place to drive was a tough oyster to crack. Her mother hasn't gotten a license to this day. Why do you think I make it a point to have lived in places like Florida, Boston and now Texas? That's expressly so that she can have friends. You would be surprised how many women like her are in the USA. She even tells me how grateful she is to be married to a degreed professional unlike some of her friends that are married to roofing laborers, landscapers and day laborers. It's amazing to see her demonstrate how unnecessary English is in parts of the US.

nota bene said:
Encouraging your wife not to learn English is a great way to marginalize and control her. Do you allow her to drive a car? Have friends?
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nota bene said:
Encouraging your wife not to learn English is a great way to marginalize and control her. Do you allow her to drive a car? Have friends?
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They did teach her to drive (he and sons) and were condescendingly proud of her...it was like they were discussing their pet golden retriever.

I've told him those women in such countries do not have the educations or opportunities for more so must settle for lower quality men (or men that choose to act as that way). And thus...the men are happy to keep them that way.

Bragging or being self-satisfied about possessing a woman with no other options doesnt sound like much of an accomplishment to me.
 
Lursa said:
They did teach her to drive (he and sons) and were condescendingly proud of her...it was like they were discussing their pet golden retriever.

I've told him those women in such countries do not have the educations or opportunities for more so must settle for lower quality men (or men that choose to act as that way). And thus...the men are happy to keep them that way.

Bragging or being self-satisfied about possessing a woman with no other options doesnt sound like much of an accomplishment to me.
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Nor I, but if you regard women as all-powerful while men are too weak to resist their lures and powers, I suppose this is a triumph. ;)
 
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Nor I, but if you regard women as all-powerful while men are too weak to resist their lures and powers, I suppose this is a triumph. ;)
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Yes, the attempts at claiming male victimization are pretty sad.
 
There has been a LOT of man hating comments on this thread. A lot of personal insults if the male poster disagrees with the national narrative of "we women are being marginalized".
Believe it or not ladies, there is another way of looking at it. This thread was started because we men are starting to feel that we are being marginalized also. You can disagree with this premise, but personal insults just make your side look unable to deal with this topic rationally.

So does any female actually want to discuss what has become a pretty big problem, or are you just going to ignore the topic and continue the personal attacks?
 
...women who only know how to be silly chics who only know how to play silly trics.

Don't worry girl friends, i believe in equality and know, Capitalism is wonderful when one has enough capital.
 
The crier in the OP may be " tired " but not half as much as those that have had the misfortune to be around him imo

Crying about " putting food on the table ( for his family ) by doing a job he hates "............... it's called living up to your responsibilities and looking after the ones you are supposed to love FFS. No wonder everyone has bombed him out and his only recourse is to cry on a youtube platform :roll:
 
gino said:
There has been a LOT of man hating comments on this thread. A lot of personal insults if the male poster disagrees with the national narrative of "we women are being marginalized".
Believe it or not ladies, there is another way of looking at it. This thread was started because we men are starting to feel that we are being marginalized also. You can disagree with this premise, but personal insults just make your side look unable to deal with this topic rationally.

So does any female actually want to discuss what has become a pretty big problem, or are you just going to ignore the topic and continue the personal attacks?
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Speak for yourself.
 
gino said:
There has been a LOT of man hating comments on this thread. A lot of personal insults if the male poster disagrees with the national narrative of "we women are being marginalized".
Believe it or not ladies, there is another way of looking at it. This thread was started because we men are starting to feel that we are being marginalized also. You can disagree with this premise, but personal insults just make your side look unable to deal with this topic rationally.

So does any female actually want to discuss what has become a pretty big problem, or are you just going to ignore the topic and continue the personal attacks?
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I don't feel marginalized at all. If I want something, I go for it. If I am with a woman and I feel I am being treated poorly, we either work it out or I find someone better.

Its not that hard to do...
 
gino said:
There has been a LOT of man hating comments on this thread. A lot of personal insults if the male poster disagrees with the national narrative of "we women are being marginalized".
Believe it or not ladies, there is another way of looking at it. This thread was started because we men are starting to feel that we are being marginalized also. You can disagree with this premise, but personal insults just make your side look unable to deal with this topic rationally.

So does any female actually want to discuss what has become a pretty big problem, or are you just going to ignore the topic and continue the personal attacks?
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What's the "pretty big problem?"

Dont like it? Leave.* Same advice I'd give to women. (OTOH, it's BS that men are being marginalized...there is no more powerful demographic on the planet than men. Men of "color" of the majority where they reside.)

"Equality" doesnt mean one side, or other sides, are marginalized. It means 'equalized.'

But the male victimization thing is a joke.


*P.S. Please figure that out before you have kids.
 
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beefheart said:
Balance of power has shifted...oh, poor baby, those nasty women got equality and you lost some of your faux superiority.

Try treating women with respect and dignity, you will be surprised what happens...
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You get accused of being a misogynist?
 
Lursa said:
What's the "pretty big problem?"

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I'll take a stab.

Here is a question for you Lursa. Today a woman can decide if she wants to work..or be a homemaker. And society accepts that.

Does society equally accept a man if they choose to be a homemaker?

If a woman reports being the victim of sexual abuse from a man.
and a man reports being a victim of sexual abuse from a woman.. who is most likely believed? Is it truly equal?

Its perfectly acceptable in todays society for a woman to make demands on her husband. Make more money.. spend more time with her.. be emotionally supportive. help with the household chores.

Is it just as acceptable in todays society for men to make demands on their wives? Make more money, be more sexually supportive, help with yardwork and car maintenance etc?

In divorce court.. do you think I as a man have just as good chance of getting custody of my young children as a woman would? OR is it more likely I will be fighting an uphill battle to get 50% custody of my children?

And the list goes on.
 
jaeger19 said:
I'll take a stab.

Here is a question for you Lursa. Today a woman can decide if she wants to work..or be a homemaker. And society accepts that.

Does society equally accept a man if they choose to be a homemaker?

If a woman reports being the victim of sexual abuse from a man.
and a man reports being a victim of sexual abuse from a woman.. who is most likely believed? Is it truly equal?

Its perfectly acceptable in todays society for a woman to make demands on her husband. Make more money.. spend more time with her.. be emotionally supportive. help with the household chores.

Is it just as acceptable in todays society for men to make demands on their wives? Make more money, be more sexually supportive, help with yardwork and car maintenance etc?

In divorce court.. do you think I as a man have just as good chance of getting custody of my young children as a woman would? OR is it more likely I will be fighting an uphill battle to get 50% custody of my children?

And the list goes on.
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Yes society does and is doing so more and more.

And if a man or woman has a kid, takes a certain job, stays in a relationship, doesnt want to 'make more money,' etc etc etc "because of what society thinks" then that's their own fault. Because there really arent any penalties.

I dont believe the same over some other things...like discrimination against blacks, gays, trans people, etc....because there are penalties...both in the workplace, and in buying property, and in being beaten to death or lynched, etc etc etc. I do see a distinction.

Today in family courts, men are being treated more and more equally. Esp in child custody/support cases. As they should and that growth is better and better each year. And if they arent, just remember, most judges are still men.

Btw, I dont respect men that cant stand up to a woman that 'demands' he make more $$ (not so sure that's as common as made out in this thread at all btw,) nor do I respect the women that supposedly do it. The only ways to change it are work it out...or leave. Both have choices.
 
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