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    Murder trial of former Dallas officer pauses until Monday

    Murder trial of former Dallas officer pauses until Monday


    Former police officer Amber Guyger in a Dallas courtroom.

    9/28/19
    DALLAS (AP) — The jury deciding the fate of a former Dallas police officer who shot and killed her unarmed black neighbor heard around five minutes of testimony on day six of the trial before being sent home. Amber Guyger, 31, who is white, is on trial for murder after she fatally shot 26-year-old Botham Jean, an accountant who was alone in his apartment when she came through his front door thinking it was her own. On Friday, Guyger testified that she mistook Jean’s fourth-floor apartment for her own, which is one floor below. She said she parked on the wrong level of the apartment complex, and walked into the unlocked door thinking it was her own. She says she killed Jean in self-defense, mistakenly thinking he was a burglar in her apartment who would harm her. “I hate that I have to live with this every single day of my life and I ask God for forgiveness, and I hate myself every single day,” Guyger told the jury. The jury will consider whether Guyger is guilty of murder, a lesser crime such as manslaughter or criminally negligent homicide, or if she is not guilty. Jurors will report back to the court on Monday at 9:30 a.m.
    There were at least a dozen signs that told Amber Guyger she was entering the wrong apartment. And at the time, she was engaging in exchanging heated text messages with her patrol partner with whom she was having an affair. Guyger's defense team had her sign a document stating she was testifying against the legal advise of the defense lawyers. If Guyger thought her testimony would elicit sympathy with the 12 person jury, I think she was mistaken. I think she is in deep, deep trouble. The evidence is overwhelmingly against her defense of physical fatigue etc.

    But then again all it takes is one juror to stymie a unanimous verdict (as it must be in a capital murder case). It is very possible that the jury votes guilty verdict of manslaughter.


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    Re: Murder trial of former Dallas officer pauses until Monday

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    Murder trial of former Dallas officer pauses until Monday


    Former police officer Amber Guyger in a Dallas courtroom.



    There were at least a dozen signs that told Amber Guyger she was entering the wrong apartment. And at the time, she was engaging in exchanging heated text messages with her patrol partner with whom she was having an affair. Guyger's defense team had her sign a document stating she was testifying against the legal advise of the defense lawyers. If Guyger thought her testimony would elicit sympathy with the 12 person jury, I think she was mistaken. I think she is in deep, deep trouble. The evidence is overwhelmingly against her defense of physical fatigue etc.

    But then again all it takes is one juror to stymie a unanimous verdict (as it must be in a capital murder case). It is very possible that the jury votes guilty verdict of manslaughter.
    There is no way that self-defense is going to fly. I suspect that the jury will not agree on capital murder, but would agree on second degree murder (rejecting the self-defense due to confusion claim) if the judge offers them that option.
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    I read up on her version of the events.
    Former Dallas Police Officer Amber Guyger Testifies About Killing Unarmed Neighbor Botham Jean
    Something that jumps out at me is that she says he was advancing on her and the prosecution contends he was seated on the couch and did not get up. Shouldnt forensic science be able to determine which version is true?

    Another thing that jumps out at me is how poorly trained the police are to handle themselves in these situtations. Her immeadiate reaction on pure instinct was to go in alone and shoot immeadiately when she thought he was not obeying a lawful command. That is a serious problem.

    Her actions dont appear to be premeditated murder but she is definitely guility of some level of homicide. If i were on that jury she would be looking at serving anywhere from 7-20 years.

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    Re: Murder trial of former Dallas officer pauses until Monday

    This trial has now gone to the jury.


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    Dallas ex-cop Amber Guyger convicted of murder in neighr's shooting

    A former Dallas police officer who fatally shot a black neighbor she mistook for an intruder was convicted of murder Tuesday and could face life in prison.
    Amber Guyger, who is white, had testified that she was exhausted from an extended shift when she walked into the apartment of Botham Jean thinking it was her own. Guyger, 31, said she believed Jean, 26, was a burglar and shot him in self-defense.
    Amber Guyger verdict: Jury finds ex-Dallas officer guilty of murder

    Manslaughter seemed more appropriate.

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    Re: Dallas ex-cop Amber Guyger convicted of murder in neighr's shooting

    Justice is about sending a message anymore.

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    Re: Dallas ex-cop Amber Guyger convicted of murder in neighr's shooting

    So tired of the press playing the race card. No wonder we still have racial tension in the country. Unless race was a factor in Guyger's decision to shoot, it is a non factor.

    It will be interesting to see what the jury will decide on jail time

    I agree with you. manslaughter would be more appropriate.
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    Re: Dallas ex-cop Amber Guyger convicted of murder in neighr's shooting

    What details made this murder?
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    Re: Dallas ex-cop Amber Guyger convicted of murder in neighr's shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    So tired of the press playing the race card. No wonder we still have racial tension in the country. Unless race was a factor in Guyger's decision to shoot, it is a non factor.

    It will be interesting to see what the jury will decide on jail time

    I agree with you. manslaughter would be more appropriate.
    Murder means she deliberately meant to murder that man. Manslaughter is when a person is wrongfully killed recklessly or carelessly, which seems the case here.

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    Re: Dallas ex-cop Amber Guyger convicted of murder in neighr's shooting

    "In the hallway outside the courtroom, a crowd celebrated and exclaimed, “Black lives matter.'' Guyger sat alone, weeping, at the defense table.The case, one in a string of episodes of white police officers killing unarmed black men, drew national attention and was closely followed in the Dallas area, where some feared mass protests if Guyger had been acquitted.

    The jury that convicted Guyger was largely made up of women and people of color."


    It appears that being white in now Democratic Dallas County (Democratic Sheriff, DA, Police Chief and both city and country government) is a criminal enhancement from manslaughter to murder.

    The jury pool would have been selected by the District Clerk - a Democratic Latino woman - who apparently stacked the jury against the Defendant on racial and sex lines. Dallas County is 51% white and 49% male, but the jury was black and women. So much for a "jury of your peers," huh?

    White people really should move out of any city run by Democrats because, inherently, by being white means that you are guilty of the crime of being a racist. Personally, in my opinion anyone who is with a police department, particularly if you are white, in a Democrat run jurisdiction is crazy.
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