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What type/level of control of woman most benefits a male-dominated society?

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What type/level of control of women most benefits a male-dominated society?

China and India have obviously taken being anti-female too far. Now there is a shortage of women to cater to mens needs. That is an unacceptable situation. If the goal is to maximize social opportunity for men, India and China have shot themselves in the foot. Of course the USA has gone to the opposite extreme. Feminism produces hostile and unhelpful women who are unfit for families.

Too many men: China and India battle with the consequences of gender imbalance | South China Morning Post

Nothing like this has happened in human history. A combination of cultural preferences, government decree and modern medical technology in the world’s two largest countries has created a gender imbalance on a continental scale. Men outnumber women by 70 million in China and India.
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The consequences of having too many men, now coming of age, are far-reaching: beyond an epidemic of loneliness, the imbalance distorts labour markets, drives up savings rates in China and drives down consumption, artificially inflates certain property values and parallels increases in violent crime, trafficking or prostitution in a growing number of locations.
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India, a country that has a deeply held preferences for sons and male heirs, has an excess of 37 million males, according to its most recent census. The number of newborn female babies compared with males has continued to plummet, even as the country grows more developed and prosperous. The imbalance creates a surplus of bachelors and exacerbates human trafficking, both for brides and, possibly, prostitution. Officials attribute this to the advent of sex-selective technology in the last 30 years, which is now banned but still in widespread use.
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After all, this is a culture where male children are desired above all else – to light the Hindu funeral pyre, inherit property, care for ageing parents. As the Sanskrit blessing says, “May you be the mother of 100 sons.”
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Re: What type/level of control of women most benefits a male-dominated society?

During the Great Leap Forward, China purged all of it's social scientists. Social scientists contributed nothing in the eyes of the revolutionaries.

So when the communists became worried about population growth, there wasn't anyone to turn to, so they turned to the engineers. Engineers weren't purged because they contributed to the military.

The engineers said, no problem. we'll just implement a one child policy.

Now there are 50 million more young men than women.
 
Re: What type/level of control of women most benefits a male-dominated society?

SDET said:
China and India have obviously taken being anti-female too far.
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Sexist. Sexism. They have been and continue to be unbelievably sexist.

Just say it.
 
Re: What type/level of control of women most benefits a male-dominated society?

Then it's idiotic sexism. It leaves men with an awful situation.

ecofarm said:
Sexist. Sexism. They have been and continue to be unbelievably sexist.

Just say it.
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Re: What type/level of control of women most benefits a male-dominated society?

SDET said:
China and India have obviously taken being anti-female too far. Now there is a shortage of women to cater to mens needs. That is an unacceptable situation. If the goal is to maximize social opportunity for men, India and China have shot themselves in the foot.
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Where is this a goal? And why on earth should it be a goal in any country?

SDET said:
Of course the USA has gone to the opposite extreme. Feminism produces hostile and unhelpful women who are unfit for families.
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Sources please.
 
Re: What type/level of control of women most benefits a male-dominated society?

Hope you can handle switch hitting for "the other team".
In my eyes this is the perfect twisted justice for incel behavior:
NO WOMEN AVAILABLE AT ALL.

Enjoy the backward thinking in your precious third world countries.
 
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SDET said:
Then it's idiotic sexism. It leaves men with an awful situation.
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Oh yeah, how awful.
Men have to actually treat females like human beings instead of servants and brainless semen receptacles.
To quote your hero, "sounds horrible to me."
 
Re: What type/level of control of women most benefits a male-dominated society?

It's funny how maximizing women's opportunity is applauded, but it's somehow a vice to maximize men's opportunities.

Lursa said:
Where is this a goal? And why on earth should it be a goal in any country?


Sources please.
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SDET said:
It's funny how maximizing women's opportunity is applauded, but it's somehow a vice to maximize men's opportunities.
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Look at your own words. You are the one that wants to maximize men's "social opportunity." Where is anyone promoting maximizing women's "social opportunity?" We just want equality, equal opportunity...you still want domination over women. "Maximizing" for men means "minimizing" it again for women.

And btw, nobody has 'minimized' men's 'social opportunities' unless it was those men themselves.

And you forgot to source this:

SDET said:
Feminism produces hostile and unhelpful women who are unfit for families.
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ecofarm said:
Sexist. Sexism. They have been and continue to be unbelievably sexist.

Just say it.
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I think he did
 
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SDET said:
It's funny how maximizing women's opportunity is applauded, but it's somehow a vice to maximize men's opportunities.
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Me to has gone to far. What about me.
 
Re: What type/level of control of women most benefits a male-dominated society?

It's not a zero-sum game. India and China's sexism was so extreme that it turned around and bit the men in the ass.

Lursa said:
Look at your own words. You are the one that wants to maximize men's "social opportunity." Where is anyone promoting maximizing women's "social opportunity?" We just want equality, equal opportunity...you still want domination over women. "Maximizing" for men means "minimizing" it again for women.

And btw, nobody has 'minimized' men's 'social opportunities' unless it was those men themselves.

And you forgot to source this:
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SDET said:
It's not a zero-sum game. India and China's sexism was so extreme that it turned around and bit the men in the ass.
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Dont backpeddle now. And your comment on feminism leading to poor mothers was specifically directed at America.(Which you still didnt source)
 
Re: What type/level of control of women most benefits a male-dominated society?

I'm not backpeddling. India and China screwed the pooch. The USA goes to the other extreme with comparable results. I can quote statistics on children raised in single mother households if you insist.

Lursa said:
Dont backpeddle now. And your comment on feminism leading to poor mothers was specifically directed at America.(Which you still didnt source)
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SDET said:
I'm not backpeddling. India and China screwed the pooch. The USA goes to the other extreme with comparable results. I can quote statistics on children raised in single mother households if you insist.
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Feel free to source how that's the mother's fault (ever hear of men running out?) or that it's because of feminism. And that it made any women 'poor mothers.' :roll:

And dont lie, you were acting the victim over men's "social opportunities" once again. You were not just referring to those 2 countries.
 
Re: What type/level of control of women most benefits a male-dominated society?

Something that I observed about the Indians that I'm around on a constant basis sparked the interest in the topic. It got me to thinking who was worse off: The Indian IT guys or the American guys that have LAN parties after work. There's no reason whatsoever for a guy that lives in a state that borders Mexico to be alone, whether he be American or Indian. I think that the Indians have done as much of a disservice to their men as the American powers that be have to theirs.

Lursa said:
Feel free to source how that's the mother's fault (ever hear of men running out?) or that it's because of feminism. And that it made any women 'poor mothers.' :roll:

And dont lie, you were acting the victim over men's "social opportunities" once again. You were not just referring to those 2 countries.
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SDET said:
Something that I observed about the Indians that I'm around on a constant basis sparked the interest in the topic. It got me to thinking who was worse off: The Indian IT guys or the American guys that have LAN parties after work. There's no reason whatsoever for a guy that lives in a state that borders Mexico to be alone, whether he be American or Indian. I think that the Indians have done as much of a disservice to their men as the American powers that be have to theirs.
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Not buying it, your own posting history outweighs it. I asked this initially...why would ANY country need to 'maximize social opportunities' for men? Why not seek equal social opportunities for both? Or maximize them for both? See? It's your POV. It's ALWAYS your POV.

And still no sources....
 
Re: What type/level of control of women most benefits a male-dominated society?

You don't have to buy it. You do miss the power of blending into the background and observing. It's the best "word to the wise" out there.

Lursa said:
Not buying it, your own posting history outweighs it. I asked this initially...why would ANY country need to 'maximize social opportunities' for men? Why not seek equal social opportunities for both? Or maximize them for both? See? It's your POV. It's ALWAYS your POV.

And still no sources....
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Lursa said:
Not buying it, your own posting history outweighs it. I asked this initially...why would ANY country need to 'maximize social opportunities' for men? Why not seek equal social opportunities for both? Or maximize them for both? See? It's your POV. It's ALWAYS your POV.

And still no sources....
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SDET said:
You don't have to buy it. You do miss the power of blending into the background and observing. It's the best "word to the wise" out there.
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And still no answer to the bold.

I guess I can forget you sourcing your ignorant comments about feminism making women poor mothers. It's not like I thought you could.
 
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SDET said:
China and India have obviously taken being anti-female too far. Now there is a shortage of women to cater to mens needs. That is an unacceptable situation. If the goal is to maximize social opportunity for men, India and China have shot themselves in the foot. Of course the USA has gone to the opposite extreme. Feminism produces hostile and unhelpful women who are unfit for families.

Too many men: China and India battle with the consequences of gender imbalance | South China Morning Post
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The correct solution is to:

1. Ban abortion
2. Ensure, whether through legal or social sanctions, that traditional marriage (one male breadwinner, one female homemaker) is the undisputed norm

Do those two things and both extremes can be easily avoided.
 
Re: What type/level of control of women most benefits a male-dominated society?

Isn't it interesting that these two countries have abortion-on-demand, yet are some of the most anti-female countries on the planet?

AmNat said:
The correct solution is to:

1. Ban abortion
2. Ensure, whether through legal or social sanctions, that traditional marriage (one male breadwinner, one female homemaker) is the undisputed norm

Do those two things and both extremes can be easily avoided.
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Checkerboard Strangler said:
Hope you can handle switch hitting for "the other team".
In my eyes this is the perfect twisted justice for incel behavior:
NO WOMEN AVAILABLE AT ALL.

Enjoy the backward thinking in your precious third world countries.
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Plenty of women available. They just require that you not be a flaming asshole.
 
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Gaius46 said:
Plenty of women available. They just require that you not be a flaming asshole.
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Why yes of course. But that doesn't change the fact that incel inspired policy is affecting populations.
China and India surprised the dickens out of me, because neither country's history was that way until authoritarians waltzed in and ruined everything by putting incels in charge of social policy.
Prior to the British Raj, India...while certainly a place where poverty was no stranger, enjoyed a very sensual and balanced outlook on sexual relations. China viewed sex as healthy. Now in China sex, like most things, is transactional and industrial, and India is now so conservative and uptight that it has spurred something of a backlash in the younger generation.

But I appreciate your veiled compliment. I am not a flaming asshole and I've been VERY blessed. :)
 
Re: What type/level of control of women most benefits a male-dominated society?

Checkerboard Strangler said:
Why yes of course. But that doesn't change the fact that incel inspired policy is affecting populations.
China and India surprised the dickens out of me, because neither country's history was that way until authoritarians waltzed in and ruined everything by putting incels in charge of social policy.
Prior to the British Raj, India...while certainly a place where poverty was no stranger, enjoyed a very sensual and balanced outlook on sexual relations. China viewed sex as healthy. Now in China sex, like most things, is transactional and industrial, and India is now so conservative and uptight that it has spurred something of a backlash in the younger generation.

But I appreciate your veiled compliment. I am not a flaming asshole and I've been VERY blessed. :)
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My comment wasn’t pointed at you. Rather it was pointed at the guy you were responding to and reinforcing - at least I thought - what you wrote.
 
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