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How Many Attacks Will It Take Until the White-Supremacist Threat Is Taken Seriously?

Rogue Valley said:
How Many Attacks Will It Take Until the White-Supremacist Threat Is Taken Seriously?

FBI Director Christopher Wray said recently that the bureau doesn’t “investigate the ideology, no matter how repugnant. We investigate violence.”

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Serious new law enforcement tools to combat domestic white supremacy/nationalism probably won't occur until the current Trump administration is removed en-mass.

Another of the many excellent and increasingly crucial reasons to vote him out of office come November 3, 2020.
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But this is what the Democratic Party wants. Many Democrats are absolutely hysterical that a white guy following Missouri law was in a WalMart openly with a rifle and pistol and 100% predictable there was no mass shooting.

NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING, makes the Democratic Party and the propaganda outlets of the super rich than someone preventing a mass shooting in one of their advertised mass shooting zones where they promise they are protecting the mass murderer from harm. The Democratic Party particularly want school children mass murdered. The create child-killing zones, protect the child murderers, and want anyone even being able to stop the murdering of children imprisoned.

Want to start another thread that progressive Democrat fascists will flock too hysterically protesting? Start a thread that you want police in schools to protect the children from being assaulted or murdered? The vast majority of Democrats on the forum furiously oppose ANYONE, even police, from being able to protect school children. They would not demand putting up signs promising they will protect anyone who will come shoot children if they didn't want those child murdered - or so don't care they do not want 17 cents per day per child to hire a police officer diverted from hiring more non-teacher administrators and giving all of them more pay raises.

The Democratic Party isn't even decent enough to at least set a limit on how many children and innocent people they want murdered each year.
 
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eohrnberger said:
Typo noted and accepted.

The search results listed, how many were reporting the facts that the shooter appears to have been an ardent leftist?

Yeah, sure, lots of ink for healing and funerals, as would be appropriate. But the leftist connection? I'm willing to wager not all that much.
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how many were reporting the facts that the shooter appears to have been an ardent leftist?
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And how often do conservatives report the fact that a shooter is an ardent conservative?


It's been noted and noted and noted and noted if not by the media then certainly by conservatives that Betts was liberal. There is not a single Democrat anywhere that is denying that Betts posted support for Warren, many of her liberal causes and lenient treatment of immigrants even illegal immigrants.

Do you want to address the problem or do you just want to excoriate Democrats because a shooter was a Democrat???
 
joko104 said:
But this is what the Democratic Party wants. Many Democrats are absolutely hysterical that a white guy following Missouri law was in a WalMart openly with a rifle and pistol and 100% predictable there was no mass shooting.

NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING, makes the Democratic Party and the propaganda outlets of the super rich than someone preventing a mass shooting in one of their advertised mass shooting zones where they promise they are protecting the mass murderer from harm. The Democratic Party particularly want school children mass murdered. The create child-killing zones, protect the child murderers, and want anyone even being able to stop the murdering of children imprisoned.

Want to start another thread that progressive Democrat fascists will flock too hysterically protesting? Start a thread that you want police in schools to protect the children from being assaulted or murdered? The vast majority of Democrats on the forum furiously oppose ANYONE, even police, from being able to protect school children. They would not demand putting up signs promising they will protect anyone who will come shoot children if they didn't want those child murdered - or so don't care they do not want 17 cents per day per child to hire a police officer diverted from hiring more non-teacher administrators and giving all of them more pay raises.

The Democratic Party isn't even decent enough to at least set a limit on how many children and innocent people they want murdered each year.
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Do you ever listen to the nonsense you spout. Not only is most of what you have just posted patently untrue and slanderous, half of your sentences, and I use the word loosely, don't even make sense.

You say, " The Democratic Party particularly want school children mass murdered." What makes you say stupid stuff that you can't possibly believe.
 
weaver2 said:
And how often do conservatives report the fact that a shooter is an ardent conservative?


It's been noted and noted and noted and noted if not by the media then certainly by conservatives that Betts was liberal. There is not a single Democrat anywhere that is denying that Betts posted support for Warren, many of her liberal causes and lenient treatment of immigrants even illegal immigrants.

Do you want to address the problem or do you just want to excoriate Democrats because a shooter was a Democrat???
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"do you just want to excoriate Democrats because a shooter was a Democrat???"

Only as much as the left, leftists and the media (but I repeat myself) excoriate Republicans because a shooter was a non-Democrat.
I mean, fair is fair, right? Now what was that about it was all Trump's fault for the El Paso shooter.

Even handed ever ring a bell with you?

I think a better idea is to stop attributing political rhetoric as the cause for some people's rash actions, unless that political rhetoric actually meets or exceeds the legal standards for incitement.

By those standards Bernie's political rhetoric is not responsible for the congressional baseball practice shooting, Obama is not responsible for the Dallas BLM shooting of cops, and Trump's political rhetoric is not responsible for the El Paso shooting, nor is Warren or Bernie responsible for the Dayton shooting.

Fair's fair and even handed, right?
 
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eohrnberger said:
"do you just want to excoriate Democrats because a shooter was a Democrat???"

Only as much as the left, leftists and the media (but I repeat myself) excoriate Republicans because a shooter was a non-Democrat.
I mean, fair is fair, right? Now what was that about it was all Trump's fault for the El Paso shooter.

Even handed ever ring a bell with you?

I think a better idea is to stop attributing political rhetoric as the cause for some people's rash actions, unless that political rhetoric actually meets or exceeds the legal standards for incitement.

By those standards Bernie's political rhetoric is not responsible for the congressional baseball practice shooting, Obama is not responsible for the Dallas BLM shooting of cops, and Trump's political rhetoric is not responsible for the El Paso shooting, nor is Warren or Bernie responsible for the Dayton shooting.

Fair's fair and even handed, right?
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Fair and even handed??? From someone who just posted the following 5 sentences???? Even handed??

1. The Democratic Party particularly want school children mass murdered.

2. The create child-killing zones, protect the child murderers, and want anyone even being able to stop the murdering of children imprisoned.

3. Democrats on the forum furiously oppose ANYONE, even police, from being able to protect school children.

4. (and then there is this incomprehensible conglomeration of words ) They would not demand putting up signs promising they will protect anyone who will come shoot children if they didn't want those child murdered - or so don't care they do not want 17 cents per day per child to hire a police officer diverted from hiring more non-teacher administrators and giving all of them more pay raises.

5. The Democratic Party isn't even decent enough to at least set a limit on how many children and innocent people they want murdered each year.

Do you honestly think this is even handed?
 
weaver2 said:
Fair and even handed??? From someone who just posted the following 5 sentences???? Even handed??

1. The Democratic Party particularly want school children mass murdered.

2. The create child-killing zones, protect the child murderers, and want anyone even being able to stop the murdering of children imprisoned.

3. Democrats on the forum furiously oppose ANYONE, even police, from being able to protect school children.

4. (and then there is this incomprehensible conglomeration of words ) They would not demand putting up signs promising they will protect anyone who will come shoot children if they didn't want those child murdered - or so don't care they do not want 17 cents per day per child to hire a police officer diverted from hiring more non-teacher administrators and giving all of them more pay raises.

5. The Democratic Party isn't even decent enough to at least set a limit on how many children and innocent people they want murdered each year.

Do you honestly think this is even handed?
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Nobody wants any of these things. Claiming that the political party you oppose does is little more than lying and demagoguery, the Democrats and extremist leftist (but I needlessly repeat myself) stock and trade, especially since 2016.
 
eohrnberger said:
Nobody wants any of these things. Claiming that the political party you oppose does is little more than lying and demagoguery, the Democrats and extremist leftist (but I needlessly repeat myself) stock and trade, especially since 2016.
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Stock and trade of Democrats and extremist leftists?. You can't be serious. You just posted them but they are stock and trade of Democrats??


And if you don't want those things why do you post them????? You are either seriously delusional or seriously dishonest.
 
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Stock and trade of Democrats and extremist leftists?. You can't be serious. You just posted them but they are stock and trade of Democrats??


And if you don't want those things why do you post them????? You are either seriously delusional or seriously dishonest.
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I am neither.
  • Who was it that was claiming Russian Collusion for 2 1/2 years, only for it to end up being a hoax?
  • Who was it that used the Russian Collusion hoax as justification to spy on an opposing political presidential campaign?
  • Who was it that was claiming that Michael Brown was murdered by the police?
  • Who was it that was claiming Trump responsible for the El Paso shooting?
  • Who was it that then turned around and defended Bernie as not being responsible for the Republican congressional baseball practice shooting?
  • Who was it that then turned around and defended Obama as not being responsible for the Dallas cops shooting?

No, I'm sorry, it's pretty clear to be a fairly accurate description.
 
eohrnberger said:
I am neither.
  • Who was it that was claiming Russian Collusion for 2 1/2 years, only for it to end up being a hoax?
  • Who was it that used the Russian Collusion hoax as justification to spy on an opposing political presidential campaign?
  • Who was it that was claiming that Michael Brown was murdered by the police?
  • Who was it that was claiming Trump responsible for the El Paso shooting?
  • Who was it that then turned around and defended Bernie as not being responsible for the Republican congressional baseball practice shooting?
  • Who was it that then turned around and defended Obama as not being responsible for the Dallas cops shooting?

No, I'm sorry, it's pretty clear to be a fairly accurate description.
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And how does any of the above have anything to do with the fact that you posted these vicious accusation about Democrats
1. The Democratic Party particularly want school children mass murdered.

2. The create child-killing zones, protect the child murderers, and want anyone even being able to stop the murdering of children imprisoned.

3. Democrats on the forum furiously oppose ANYONE, even police, from being able to protect school children.

4. (and then there is this incomprehensible conglomeration of words ) They would not demand putting up signs promising they will protect anyone who will come shoot children if they didn't want those child murdered - or so don't care they do not want 17 cents per day per child to hire a police officer diverted from hiring more non-teacher administrators and giving all of them more pay raises.

5. The Democratic Party isn't even decent enough to at least set a limit on how many children and innocent people they want murdered each year.


You can't post slander like that and then blow off people when they ask you to post sources
 
weaver2 said:
And how does any of the above have anything to do with the fact that you posted these vicious accusation about Democrats
1. The Democratic Party particularly want school children mass murdered.

2. The create child-killing zones, protect the child murderers, and want anyone even being able to stop the murdering of children imprisoned.

3. Democrats on the forum furiously oppose ANYONE, even police, from being able to protect school children.

4. (and then there is this incomprehensible conglomeration of words ) They would not demand putting up signs promising they will protect anyone who will come shoot children if they didn't want those child murdered - or so don't care they do not want 17 cents per day per child to hire a police officer diverted from hiring more non-teacher administrators and giving all of them more pay raises.

5. The Democratic Party isn't even decent enough to at least set a limit on how many children and innocent people they want murdered each year.


You can't post slander like that and then blow off people when they ask you to post sources
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The poster "eohrnberger" did not post the above 5 sentences. "Joko"posted them. This post is addressed to him.
 
weaver2 said:
And how does any of the above have anything to do with the fact that you posted these vicious accusation about Democrats
1. The Democratic Party particularly want school children mass murdered.

2. The create child-killing zones, protect the child murderers, and want anyone even being able to stop the murdering of children imprisoned.

3. Democrats on the forum furiously oppose ANYONE, even police, from being able to protect school children.

4. (and then there is this incomprehensible conglomeration of words ) They would not demand putting up signs promising they will protect anyone who will come shoot children if they didn't want those child murdered - or so don't care they do not want 17 cents per day per child to hire a police officer diverted from hiring more non-teacher administrators and giving all of them more pay raises.

5. The Democratic Party isn't even decent enough to at least set a limit on how many children and innocent people they want murdered each year.


You can't post slander like that and then blow off people when they ask you to post sources
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I think you are reading into my posts what you want to be there, what you need to believe is in there, rather than what IS in there., because I recall a post that I did make:

eohrnberger said:
Nobody wants any of these things. Claiming that the political party you oppose does is little more than lying and demagoguery, the Democrats and extremist leftist (but I needlessly repeat myself) stock and trade, especially since 2016.
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Now, if you please response to the 6 points that I DID post, that'd be nice. Otherwise it'd be hard to take you as anything more than lying about me and demagoguery directed at myself.
 
joko104 said:
But this is what the Democratic Party wants. Many Democrats are absolutely hysterical that a white guy following Missouri law was in a WalMart openly with a rifle and pistol and 100% predictable there was no mass shooting.

NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING, makes the Democratic Party and the propaganda outlets of the super rich than someone preventing a mass shooting in one of their advertised mass shooting zones where they promise they are protecting the mass murderer from harm. The Democratic Party particularly want school children mass murdered. The create child-killing zones, protect the child murderers, and want anyone even being able to stop the murdering of children imprisoned.

Want to start another thread that progressive Democrat fascists will flock too hysterically protesting? Start a thread that you want police in schools to protect the children from being assaulted or murdered? The vast majority of Democrats on the forum furiously oppose ANYONE, even police, from being able to protect school children. They would not demand putting up signs promising they will protect anyone who will come shoot children if they didn't want those child murdered - or so don't care they do not want 17 cents per day per child to hire a police officer diverted from hiring more non-teacher administrators and giving all of them more pay raises.

The Democratic Party isn't even decent enough to at least set a limit on how many children and innocent people they want murdered each year.
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You have not addressed the accusation above. These kinds of accusations have no business on a public forum. It is inappropriate to state that anybody wants children murdered. You need to either source the accusations to show that they are true or you need to ask the moderator to remove them from this thread.
 
eohrnberger said:
I think you are reading into my posts what you want to be there, what you need to believe is in there, rather than what IS in there., because I recall a post that I did make:



Now, if you please response to the 6 points that I DID post, that'd be nice. Otherwise it'd be hard to take you as anything more than lying about me and demagoguery directed at myself.
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See post #60. I erred in posting the comment to you. The comments I was criticizing were posted by Joko.
 
weaver2 said:
See post #60. I erred in posting the comment to you. The comments I was criticizing were posted by Joko.
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Fair enough.

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eohrnberger said:
Typo noted and accepted.

The search results listed, how many were reporting the facts that the shooter appears to have been an ardent leftist?

Yeah, sure, lots of ink for healing and funerals, as would be appropriate. But the leftist connection? I'm willing to wager not all that much.
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We don't know exactly what motivated the Dayton shooter. Was the bar he shot up a known right-winger hangout? Was his sister one of them? We can be certain his schizophrenia played a big role.

However, we do know the El Paso shooter's motives. He posted a manifesto on 8chan.
 
Geoist said:
We don't know exactly what motivated the Dayton shooter. Was the bar he shot up a known right-winger hangout? Was his sister one of them? We can be certain his schizophrenia played a big role.

However, we do know the El Paso shooter's motives. He posted a manifesto on 8chan.
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While the motivations behind the Dayton attack remain unclear, the shooter, Conor Betts, did express support on social media for fringe left-wing ideas.
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Officials say that Betts — who was killed by police in the midst of his shooting spree, which killed nine people — demonstrated a disturbing interest in violence, as well as support for extreme ideas that sometimes aligned with leftist politics. From a now-suspended Twitter account, Betts often praised Satan, while blasting fascists, police, and Republicans. A few times, he supportively mentioned socialism and Sanders — and said in June that he’d “happily vote for” Warren.
Here's why Trump says the Dayton shooter was a 'fan' of Elizabeth Warren | Boston.com
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:shrug:
 
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