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Getting Limbs Cut Off As Punishment

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I do know in some countries you can get limbs cut off as punishment, for instance in some countries you can get your hand cut off. That would never fly in the USA as it would be cruel and unusual punishment. However I do think some people deserve it. For some people the punishment should be to get their entire arm or arms cut off at the shoulder(s).
 
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DebateChallenge said:
I do know in some countries you can get limbs cut off as punishment, for instance in some countries you can get your hand cut off. That would never fly in the USA as it would be cruel and unusual punishment. However I do think some people deserve it. For some people the punishment should be to get their entire arm or arms cut off at the shoulder(s).
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I think the whole point of that language, was that no President, governor, or judge should gain sufficient power that he gets to act on those beliefs that you hold. Its because the founders knew people like you existed and would eventually gain authority, that the wording sits there.

You have provided a lock solid argument in favor of the ban.
 
DebateChallenge said:
I do know in some countries you can get limbs cut off as punishment, for instance in some countries you can get your hand cut off. That would never fly in the USA as it would be cruel and unusual punishment. However I do think some people deserve it. For some people the punishment should be to get their entire arm or arms cut off at the shoulder(s).
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In some countries you must mean the middle east and africa, and even most of those nations who use it leave that decision to tribal elders or local govts. When I was in afghanistan the local elders had rules on theft, the punishment for theft depended on what was stolen and why. Theft for necessity like food clothing and water or stealing to support a family were usually dealt with by the thieves keeping what they took but being forced to pay off the value in labor from the ones they stole from, like if you stole 10 pounds of rice from a farmer you were required when caught to pay off the value in labor to that farmer.

For theft of luxury like stealing because you wanted rather than needed, the rule was to cut off the hand that stole it. However each nation is different, in afghanistan it was by tribal leaders who usually fell in line with a set mentality of need or greed defining punishment, while other nations like saudi arabia are far more strict in enforcing such laws to the extreme.
 
btthegreat said:
I think the whole point of that language, was that no President, governor, or judge should gain sufficient power that he gets to act on those beliefs that you hold. Its because the founders knew people like you existed and would eventually gain authority, that the wording sits there.

You have provided a lock solid argument in favor of the ban.
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Well, I would suggest abortion is punishment and they dismember the dead and sell their parts.

The Left accepts this though. Not only accepts it, but claims it to be a right.

Just as barbaric as lopping off libs off criminals, except in this case their is not trial.
 
DebateChallenge said:
I do know in some countries you can get limbs cut off as punishment, for instance in some countries you can get your hand cut off. That would never fly in the USA as it would be cruel and unusual punishment. However I do think some people deserve it. For some people the punishment should be to get their entire arm or arms cut off at the shoulder(s).
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Why don't you cut their legs off too?
 
DebateChallenge said:
I do know in some countries you can get limbs cut off as punishment, for instance in some countries you can get your hand cut off. That would never fly in the USA as it would be cruel and unusual punishment. However I do think some people deserve it. For some people the punishment should be to get their entire arm or arms cut off at the shoulder(s).
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I know a Saudi man who got caught stealing and he suffered a left hand amputation as punishment. Then he was caught stealing again and had his right hand amputated.

I asked him how difficult life had become as a result of the loss of hands and he told me things were very tough for him now seeing as he was only able to steal doughnuts :shock:
 
Sever their limbs and kill them slowly. I can't wait to read what DesadeChallenge comes up with next. Poke out both eyes?
 
Sounds like the validation and propagation of more hate, more allowing emotions to control justice and good judgement, vengeance....

IMO it's an immature, reactive response to individuals who acted the same way. So...we'd end up no better than they are. Worse actually...desiring to dismember a person for stealing.
 
d0gbreath said:
Sever their limbs and kill them slowly. I can't wait to read what DesadeChallenge comes up with next. Poke out both eyes?
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Well, it is on the milder side, but it would be a suitable punishment for telemarketers who contact people on the do-not-call list.
 
DebateChallenge said:
I do know in some countries you can get limbs cut off as punishment, for instance in some countries you can get your hand cut off. That would never fly in the USA as it would be cruel and unusual punishment. However I do think some people deserve it. For some people the punishment should be to get their entire arm or arms cut off at the shoulder(s).
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Then how would they make a living? I believe in tough sentencing but they will get out eventually (unless they are in for life w/out parole or the death penalty), they have to be able to support themselves. Or would you be okay w/ them getting disability benefits for the rest of their lives?
 
zimmer said:
Well, I would suggest abortion is punishment and they dismember the dead and sell their parts.

The Left accepts this though. Not only accepts it, but claims it to be a right.

Just as barbaric as lopping off libs off criminals, except in this case their is not trial.
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Why are you bringing abortion into it?
 
Scrabaholic said:
Then how would they make a living? I believe in tough sentencing but they will get out eventually (unless they are in for life w/out parole or the death penalty), they have to be able to support themselves. Or would you be okay w/ them getting disability benefits for the rest of their lives?
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Ahhhh, a breath of practicality and reality.
 
Scrabaholic said:
Why are you bringing abortion into it?
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One does wonder what crimes the unborn are capable of/have committed. And to consider it a punishment for something with no awareness nor suffering.

Perhaps there was an inability to overcome blind dogma to examine reality when that response was made?
 
btthegreat said:
I think the whole point of that language, was that no President, governor, or judge should gain sufficient power that he gets to act on those beliefs that you hold. Its because the founders knew people like you existed and would eventually gain authority, that the wording sits there.

You have provided a lock solid argument in favor of the ban.
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You would be mortified if you knew what the founders supported. They, in fact, fully supported corporal punishment which included a wide variety of maiming and brutal contraptions such as the scold’s bridle.
 
Scrabaholic said:
Then how would they make a living? I believe in tough sentencing but they will get out eventually (unless they are in for life w/out parole or the death penalty), they have to be able to support themselves. Or would you be okay w/ them getting disability benefits for the rest of their lives?
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Incarceration has turned out to be a very poor deterrent for crime. Modern punishment should include things like stripping offenders of eligibility to receive public assistance. If the punishment for stomping somebody’s head in is amputation of their legs then it should also include denial of public assistance. I don’t care how or if they manage to make a living.
 
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Napoleon said:
Incarceration has turned out to be a very poor deterrent for crime. Modern punishment should include things like stripping offenders of eligibility to receive public assistance. If the punishment for stomping somebody’s head in is amputation of their legs then it should also include denial of public assistance. I don’t care how or if they manage to make a living.
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I do. I don't want my house broken into by people who can't get public assistance and who cannot work.

Incarceration has to be miserable for the inmate for it to be a deterrant. It isn't nowadays.
 
Napoleon said:
You would be mortified if you knew what the founders supported. They, in fact, fully supported corporal punishment which included a wide variety of maiming and brutal contraptions such as the scold’s bridle.
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Links and citations please.
 
DebateChallenge said:
I do know in some countries you can get limbs cut off as punishment, for instance in some countries you can get your hand cut off. That would never fly in the USA as it would be cruel and unusual punishment. However I do think some people deserve it. For some people the punishment should be to get their entire arm or arms cut off at the shoulder(s).
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I would think more in the neck area, for hose not deserving prison only
 
btthegreat said:
Links and citations please.
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Before we go down that path, which I have no doubt you’d choose to ignore, Id like to know what you think this means:

“...nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb...”
 
Napoleon said:
Before we go down that path, which I have no doubt you’d choose to ignore, Id like to know what you think this means:

“...nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb...”
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either you have links and citations or you do not.
 
DebateChallenge said:
I do know in some countries you can get limbs cut off as punishment, for instance in some countries you can get your hand cut off. That would never fly in the USA as it would be cruel and unusual punishment. However I do think some people deserve it. For some people the punishment should be to get their entire arm or arms cut off at the shoulder(s).
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Or tongue if they've lied 10,800.
 
Napoleon said:
Before we go down that path, which I have no doubt you’d choose to ignore, Id like to know what you think this means:

“...nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb...”
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Or this one: "...nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted."
 
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