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    Re: Automatic license plate readers and search and seizure?

    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    Where do you draw the line on the plate scanners. If the plates come back as being registered to someone with a warrant on them is that enough to pull the driver over?

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    That would be reasonable suspicion to pull the vehicle over provide license plate readers/scanners are legal
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    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    Exactly imagine that. Thats why i think something as innocuous as scanning plate is worthy of discussing now ehile these things are in its infancy stage. Where is the line drawn is a valid question and worthy of debate.

    For instance if its ok for them to run your plate even before you have been pulled over for violating any laws what is the argumrnt for them not being able to randomly pull people over to check out the driver or passengers of a vehicle.

    It seems to me there needs to be some sort of standard that requires probable cause or your creating a system that's ripe for abuse. Yes you will catch more law breakers but is the cost worth it?



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    what is the cost, exactly?
    The right to privacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    The right to privacy.

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    In no way have you - or can - you make a showing where right to privacy was lost
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    Re: Automatic license plate readers and search and seizure?

    Reading license plates is a tool police can use to combat crime. Crime is a terrible thing, isn't it? To prevent good, decent people from being victimized by criminal acts by criminals? But many Democrats seem to not see it that way.

    Most Republicans see a police officer stopping traffic so a momma cat can carry her kitten safely across the street - and smile:



    Many Democrats angrily see a white supremacist cop doing a Nazi salute to an all white people crowd. Privileged racist white men to be specific.
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    Re: Automatic license plate readers and search and seizure?

    While I see no problem with plate readers on police cars, I do see it evolving to data bases tracking everyone's car by cameras everywhere, telling all of your movements, records of everywhere you went - for how long, when and who else was there - and otherwise be tracking your movements even without using a GPS tracker in your car - which now exist in your phone and increasing numbers of new cars.

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    Re: Automatic license plate readers and search and seizure?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    While I see no problem with plate readers on police cars, I do see it evolving to data bases tracking everyone's car by cameras everywhere, telling all of your movements, records of everywhere you went - for how long, when and who else was there - and otherwise be tracking your movements even without using a GPS tracker in your car - which now exist in your phone and increasing numbers of new cars.
    to what nefarious purposes is law enforcement going to use such technology?
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    Re: Automatic license plate readers and search and seizure?

    ~ Auto license plates are public information. If your auto is reported missing or the owner has outstanding warrents it shows up. Like the old "hot list" patrol cops used to get each shift.
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    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    to what nefarious purposes is law enforcement going to use such technology?
    Law enforcement itself and as an extension of government can use law enforcement for personal retaliations, reasons of personal profit, and to eliminate political adversaries. It also allows reputation destruction of guilt by association, could end up being leaked publicly to expose extra-marital affairs and other private personal matters etc.

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    Re: Automatic license plate readers and search and seizure?

    What we can do is be more vigilant and alert when in doubt.

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