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Charlottesville white supremacist who killed protester asks judge for mercy

He is mentally ill... surely he deserves treatment and a second chance?
And there it is. Most every murderer on death row has a history of mental illness, you just find it in your heart to especially have compassion on a Neo-Nazi attempted mass murderer.

No remorse, no recanting of his hateful ideology. The only viable excuse would be psychopathy, otherwise he needs to be locked up for good.
 
Your last post to me said this:



...and there is no question.
The one before that... I'm seriously done for good with you. Enjoy being an apologist for getting this hate criminal off on a lighter sentence.
 
And there it is. Most every murderer on death row has a history of mental illness, you just find it in your heart to especially have compassion on a Neo-Nazi attempted mass murderer.

No remorse, no recanting of his hateful ideology. The only viable excuse would be psychopathy, otherwise he needs to be locked up for good.

I asked that poster a question... I did not give my position on the issue.

The one before that... I'm seriously done for good with you. Enjoy being an apologist for getting this hate criminal off on a lighter sentence.

His defense brought up his mental illness during the trial. That is a fact and one that you keep dodging... but that is a very Trolling Tactic.
 
Goddamit the guy ran over a dozen people with his car, by virtue of the fact that he AIMED the car and floored the accelerator.
He's a killer, and he premeditated his act. He didn't even KNOW the people he ran over. He just saw them and decided to drive his car into the crowd.
I'm sick of hearing defenses for this act.
There was no sufficient compelling mitigating evidence or circumstances which preclude him being treated any other way than as a murderer. And the evidence of his actions are on videotape and there is ample photographic evidence as well.
Lock his sorry ass up and throw away the key.

I have walked down that street, now called Heather Heyer Way, many times and it was a miracle that more weren't killed or injured. It's narrow and I can only imagine the horror of those people on that day. Life without parole is more than he deserves. Driving down that street at high speed showed his intent to kill and injure as many as he could was a conscious decision.
 
I asked that poster a question... I did not give my position on the issue.



His defense brought up his mental illness during the trial. That is a fact and one that you keep dodging... but that is a very Trolling Tactic.
Where did I dodge the fact of his mental illness? More massive dishonesty.
 
There were good people on both sides... he was simply not one of them...

No...there are no good people who are on the nazi white supremacy side, stop making stupid posts.
 
No...there are no good people who are on the nazi white supremacy side, stop making stupid posts.

I never said that there were good people on the Nazi side...
 
You have no idea how to debate properly...
Lol, I'm not responsible for the fact that you can't answer simple yes or no questions. This is not the first useless exchange I have had with you.
 
Lol, I'm not responsible for the fact that you can't answer simple yes or no questions. This is not the first useless exchange I have had with you.

You challenged my statement with an irrelevant question about nothing that I had said instead of with facts.... that is how you debate.
 
His holding of unpopular opinion is explicitly part of the basis for federal charges against him.

He killed someone. He purposefully drove his car into a group of protesters and killed someone. Sorry, but regardless of what opinions one may hold, you go to jail for that.

duh
 
You think that will be a big deterrent to the mentally ill? They will think logically about the consequences, eh?

Ideology played more of a part in his motivation.
 
Fields hasn't been accused of targeting anyone based on membership in a protected class (the legal definition of a "hate crime"). He's been prosecuted under the federal statute based on having:

1. Committed a murder (he didn't, but that's besides the point I'm making here), and
2. Prior to committing the murder, engaged in thought crime ("hate").

There was a time when liberals would be horrified at the idea of a person being prosecuted for holding unpopular opinions. Those days are past, apparently.

Yes he committed murder, the court disagrees with you. Its not about unpopular opinions, quit lying.
 
I never said that there were good people on the Nazi side...

Both sides you said which the equivalence really shows you have no actual idea about who was involved.One side was a fascist gathering, the other a gathering to defend their town.
 
You think that will be a big deterrent to the mentally ill? They will think logically about the consequences, eh?

The court didn't find Fields mentally ill, nor did he plead insanity. Fields wasn't so mentally ill that he couldn't function.

And that working functionality is precisely why Fields needs to be removed from society. He should receive a life sentence without parole at a minimum.
 
The court didn't find Fields mentally ill, nor did he plead insanity. Fields wasn't so mentally ill that he couldn't function.

And that working functionality is precisely why Fields needs to be removed from society. He should receive a life sentence without parole at a minimum.
Yup, which is why I said Bodi still doesn't understand mental illness. People don't go running others over just because they are mentally ill. That makes them more susceptible to recruitment perhaps at certain ages, but that doesn't in our legal system factor as if people are just consigned to their fates. He chose to move forward with murder, probably hoping to inspire more and do more damage. Good riddance, people like this do not deserve society's pity. If you are mentally ill and a Neo-Nazi, seek treatment before you terrorize the population. Asking for a second chance when his victim gets none would be a travesty of justice.
 
Ideology played more of a part in his motivation.
He had a framed picture of Hitler by his bed for Christ's sake. Mental illness likely tells the story of how this man was attracted to it, but he was still functional enough to premeditate this murder, stand trial and still yet have no remorse. Lock him up!
 
Never took you as one to be soft on violent crime, Bodi.

You know that I think that he should be shot in the head and dumped at sea...
 
The court didn't find Fields mentally ill, nor did he plead insanity. Fields wasn't so mentally ill that he couldn't function.

And that working functionality is precisely why Fields needs to be removed from society. He should receive a life sentence without parole at a minimum.

That was not my point... it was that a mentally disturbed person would not recognize a deterrent... because... they are mentally ill.
 
Both sides you said which the equivalence really shows you have no actual idea about who was involved.One side was a fascist gathering, the other a gathering to defend their town.

Initially the Nazi "side" included many non-Nazi's ... to whom he was referring.
 
That was not my point... it was that a mentally disturbed person would not recognize a deterrent... because... they are mentally ill.

This was your "point' such as it is...

You think that will be a big deterrent to the mentally ill? They will think logically about the consequences, eh?

What does that have to do with this case? Fields is functional enough that he certainly understands what a life sentence entails.

If not, he would not be petitioning the judge for a reduced sentence.
 
This was your "point' such as it is...



What does that have to do with this case? Fields is functional enough that he certainly understands what a life sentence entails.

If not, he would not be petitioning the judge for a reduced sentence.

It doesn't have anything to do with the case... it has everything to do with mental capacity instead.
 
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