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    Re: What level of effort does the Autistic community owe others?

    What I recommend Aspies do is learn as much law as possible. It serves as a boundary to what you can get away with, but it also limits what others can do to you. There is criminal, civil and regulatory law. Let's say your landlord doesn't like you and starts being crappy towards you. There's no goodwill left, so you have nothing to lose. How about memorizing the building code? Turn in violations one at at time and stretch it out over time. That also adds leverage of reporting any adverse behavior or treatment as retaliation for turning in violations which is illegal in many states. It puts control back in your hands and leaves your adversary, the landlord off balance.

    This is but one example of how to deal with people who act badly towards you for social skills you don't have. It turns the tables AND you get what you want from people.

    Oftentimes your adversary will surrender and ask what is necessary to make peace with you. You can then communicate your demands.

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    Re: What level of effort does the Autistic community owe others?

    Quote Originally Posted by AmNat View Post
    Psychotherapy is a scam. An excessive desire to please others is bad in general. But unless we're talking about people who are severely autistic, it's really not that unreasonable to expect people to understand basic social cues by the time they reach adulthood.
    I turned the aspie focus to the social cue problem.

    I now appear quite socially adept. But it takes focus.

    IMO its not missing social cues but not getting the neurochemical rewards associated with them.

    For instance I have leadership talent. But I get no pleasure from it. I can also be subordinate but don't feel comfortable because I have leadership.

    I have no interest in "status" games. Being above somebody does nothing for me. Neither does being below make me aspire to their position.
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    Re: What level of effort does the Autistic community owe others?

    Quote Originally Posted by SDET View Post
    What I recommend Aspies do is learn as much law as possible. It serves as a boundary to what you can get away with, but it also limits what others can do to you. There is criminal, civil and regulatory law. Let's say your landlord doesn't like you and starts being crappy towards you. There's no goodwill left, so you have nothing to lose. How about memorizing the building code? Turn in violations one at at time and stretch it out over time. That also adds leverage of reporting any adverse behavior or treatment as retaliation for turning in violations which is illegal in many states. It puts control back in your hands and leaves your adversary, the landlord off balance.

    This is but one example of how to deal with people who act badly towards you for social skills you don't have. It turns the tables AND you get what you want from people.

    Oftentimes your adversary will surrender and ask what is necessary to make peace with you. You can then communicate your demands.
    Its probably too late for you, but it is possible to put aspire focus to the social problem.

    I did, and now i appear to be a "real boy". Quite socially adept. It still isn't "instinctive" I have to pay attention.

    But I am not handicapped anymore as many are.

    I would advise against the adversarial position you are taking. You are on a path to amoral manipulation.

    And we don't need any more of us getting into that.
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    Re: What level of effort does the Autistic community owe others?

    Quote Originally Posted by AmNat View Post
    Psychotherapy is a scam. An excessive desire to please others is bad in general. But unless we're talking about people who are severely autistic, it's really not that unreasonable to expect people to understand basic social cues by the time they reach adulthood.
    If it is a scam, better you be the scammer than the scamee. Once you get designated "disabled", many things that would otherwise be legal to do to you suddenly become illegal or at least civilly actionable. I have profited perhaps to the tune of $100K with help from psychotherapists.

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