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Do 80% of women pursue just 20% of the men in the USA?

SDET said:
Replace the "or" with "and" then I would say "yes". If you were to come up with some kind of misery measurement, the sum total in my opinion would add up.
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I think you're not being truthful but of course, I cant prove it.
 
SDET said:
Like I said, I think the USA contingent of MGTOW misses out on a lot of fun. MGTOWers in Brazil have figured out how to have their cake and eat it too.

When you play with a woman, you're playing with fire. Stay prepared.
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Then don't get intimate with women. Stick to men. Simple.
 
SDET said:
I hear video after video from MGTOW make this assertion. They also make the assertion that the bottom 80% of men must settle for the bottom 20% of women in the US. I listen to MGTOW videos merely as a series of hypotheses. Agree or disagree, MGTOW does present ideas. The next step is to go about evaluating those ideas. Some are correct, others are demonstrably wrong, still others fit the mold of "he's telling HIS truth", to borrow a phrase from "The Grapes of Wrath".

Do you believe the notion in the title to be true? Why or why not?

Of course, I prefer Brazilian MGTOW over US MGTOW. With US MGTOW, men swear off women; Brazilian MGTOW enjoys women but never forgets to keep that guard up. I like the Brazilian approach so much better.
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Well lets go over this statistic. Lets assume that all of the top 20% of men have a relationship. That means that 20% of women are with them. The bottom 20% of women are with 20% of men. All the rest of the women are pining for the top 20% of men. That means at most 40% of people are in a relationship. But that assumes that this top 20% of men and the bottom 20% of women are all in a relationship. Lets assume 10% aren't. That leaves only 30% in a relationship while 70% aren't.

Well, lets look at the facts. By their 30s - 40s, only 20% of people are single, not 70%. So your source is obviously very wrong.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/life...have-romantic-partner/?utm_term=.26c2c8dd8118
 
SDET said:
Do you believe the notion in the title to be true? Why or why not?
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No, I don't. People of both sexes pursue the best they think they can get; the rest is just circumstance and perception.
I've had MGTOW mentioned to me by friends often enough that I looked it up and spent some hours watching videos, and my conclusion is that MGTOW is a social media phenomena. You have Mens' rights activists talking to divorce rapees talking to average guys who heard about or saw horror stories unfold before them. Add social media and all these stories become a narrative, and the people who read them become a movement. One of the most common tropes is the average guy who watched a few Youtube videos and then says "I've been MGTOW all these years, and I just didn't know it!" No you weren't. You were just capable of assessing risk, and taking care to avoid disastrous relationships. Don't let yourself get trapped by narratives!

Of course you should avoid marriage if your country has divorce laws that routinely ruin lives. Of course you should consider carefully if you want to have children if your country has laws that automatically give them to the other parent in case of a breakup. That's not "going your own way", it's just common sense risk avoidance. Just like millionaires (of either sex) should avoid marrying people 50 years younger than themselves in a country that routinely annulls prenups. Not putting yourself into situations that have a high likelihood of costing you more than you can afford does not transform you into some enigmatic philosopher monk, it just means you're as smart as the average person. The MGTOW narrative does not seem to take into account that this is the case for every single person on the planet, but seems to treat it like something uniquely male.


That said, I find it amusing how passionate many people get about denouncing MGTOW.
If one finds something to be wrong, the usual procedure is to analyze it and point out it's flaws. Some people do that with MGTOW, but damn there are also a lot of people who fly into rages, complete with virtual torches and pitchforks. I'd suggest to those people that they look inwards and try to figure out why they get so passionate about something that can't possibly harm them. Anger comes from frustration, so what is it about MGTOW that is so frustrating?
 
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