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Do 80% of women pursue just 20% of the men in the USA?

The vast majority of MGTOW have no actual experience with women. Most of the "information" that they share is just them projecting their own biases without any evidence whatsoever.

Unless the OP can actually provide any evidence, I'm going to consider this claim false, as I've never observed anything like it in my life.
 
SDET said:
Like I said, I think the USA contingent of MGTOW misses out on a lot of fun. MGTOWers in Brazil have figured out how to have their cake and eat it too. When you play with a woman, you're playing with fire. Stay prepared.
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Brazil, eh??? Isn't that TG capital of the world??? Perhaps that's how they have their cake and eat it too, they can have boobs and sex but it avoids the 'fire' Mytugs fear so.... ;)

I started to wonder about all that after the fishing comments. I work in a diverse workforce and we joke around a lot. One guy was talking about going fishing one weekend and a gay co-worker snickered- apparently 'going fishing' is code for homosexual sex... :shock:

Ok, it's starting to make a bit more sense now.... :peace
 
SDET said:
But is it a good idea for the men to put that silver dollar in that particular slot machine? Is it advisable for US men to decide not to play that particular game? Back in the day when I considered English-speaking women, it sure felt like playing poker against a stacked deck. It seems that in those thirty years hence it has only gotten worse for men.
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That is because women in the US can make a good living on their own, with their own career, so they do not have to settle for a loser, just to be able to survive financially
 
SDET said:
But is it a good idea for the men to put that silver dollar in that particular slot machine? Is it advisable for US men to decide not to play that particular game? Back in the day when I considered English-speaking women, it sure felt like playing poker against a stacked deck. It seems that in those thirty years hence it has only gotten worse for men.
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As long as there's still child support and joint custody,* who cares if people marry? Why do men feel the need to marry? Please answer this with (I'd hope) a list before asking the same about women.

Personally, I've always thought both sexes might be better off not marrying, but men moreso.


*which would apply equally to both parents.
 
Quag said:
Without $$$$ your sex life is in the palm of your hand
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:lamo

But that also wont cost you $$ later. So...which head are men thinking with?
 
SDET said:
True for 95% of the male population. When is the last time you saw women flocking around a homeless man?

Now lets take that a step further: Is an attractive, but homeless chick still sought after by men?

Do you see the difference?
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If they are, that's a pretty sickening picture of men you create, since homeless tend to be mentally ill, filthy, unproductive in society, and/or anti-authoritarian to an extreme degree (as in confrontational and uncooperative.) It seems to imply that men are only interested in the way a woman looks when choosing a partner...and not even clean and presentable.
 
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SDET said:
My assertion is that only 20% can. Even that is not on a permanent basis.
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Do you feel it's an entitlement?
 
SDET said:
That's not the case. The typical MGTOW is someone who got what they call "divorce raped". They point out bonafide hazards. One can discuss how common a given hazard is, but the risk is not zero. Actually many of them would have preferred have been an "incel".

What prompted me to start this discussion is that my wife noticed several couples where a reasonably attractive man was with a seriously obese woman. In most of Latin America such a seriously obese woman would be alone, almost guaranteed.
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This is the dumbest, most ignorant, supremely misogynistic thread EVER in the history of the world. No ****, it really is. The two losers who started the online 'he-man woman haters club' can't even release their real names, they go by the alias of 'Solaris' and 'Ragnar'. (ooh, that sounds so masculine)

How can anyone, I mean anyone with two brain cells to rub together, even go into a social media site that's so ridiculous? It's absolutely illogical, nonsensical, and unreasonable. Not only that but it's antithetical to the laws of human nature.

Far out man. Peace :peace
 
SDET said:
The assertion MGTOW makes is that staying with most American women is not sustainable at any level of effort. The USA contingent makes the mistake of giving up on women completely.
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Hmm. I dont know what to make of this post. Is there an assumption that women have to accept men as they are?

It seems, from your posts, men only want women 'as they are' because women's looks arent that changeable. And vaginas are all pretty much the same. Supporting comment: it's common for men to dump their wives/gfs for younger women when they do lose their looks. Or at least cheat.

If women dont find the men worthy of staying with...are you implying that this is women's faults? Let's face it, today women dont need men to take care of them. For most of us today, it's a choice. Bearpoker makes a good observation in his post 42, regarding resorting to women in countries where they have less choices, less education, and arent viewed equally. You yourself have chosen this option...taking subservience/lack of options in a partner over an equal partner.
 
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Lursa said:
Hmm. I dont know what to make of this post. Is there an assumption that women have to accept men as they are?

It seems, from your posts, men only want women 'as they are' because women's looks arent that changeable. And vaginas are all pretty much the same. Supporting comment: it's common for men to dump their wives/gfs for younger women when they do lose their looks. Or at least cheat.

If women dont find the men worthy of staying with...are you implying that this is women's faults? Let's face it, today women dont need men to take care of them. For most of us today, it's a choice. Bearpoker makes a good observation in his post 42, regarding resorting to women in countries where they have less choices, less education, and arent viewed equally. You yourself have chosen this option...taking subservience/lack of options in a partner over an equal partner.
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What baffles me is that a substantial number of men willingly sit down at a gender poker game with a marked deck. One would think that they would at least do SOMETHING to mitigate their risk. Beyond that "equal" is not defined.
 
The Auditor said:
The vast majority of MGTOW have no actual experience with women. Most of the "information" that they share is just them projecting their own biases without any evidence whatsoever.

Unless the OP can actually provide any evidence, I'm going to consider this claim false, as I've never observed anything like it in my life.
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If you look at their content, they have had extensive BAD experiences. Most of them are divorced, nailed to a cross of alimony/child support with no corresponding visitation. For those who want to project "incel" onto MGTOW, it's the critics that have the problem.
 
SDET said:
What baffles me is that a substantial number of men willingly sit down at a gender poker game with a marked deck. One would think that they would at least do SOMETHING to mitigate their risk. Beyond that "equal" is not defined.
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You are so terrified of women, what a sad life. Women aren't your enemy, you are your enemy.
 
beefheart said:
You are so terrified of women, what a sad life. Women aren't your enemy, you are your enemy.
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Not for myself. I have just seen so many men blindsided over my decades in the "cubical farm". I observe on a regular basis what loathsome creatures American women are. I'm wise enough to observe from a distance.
 
MGTOW....well alrighty then. Ta ra! Someone sent me a link to one of those videos and it was amusing listening to a man whinge about his inability to have successful relationships with women.
 
SDET said:
I hear video after video from MGTOW make this assertion. They also make the assertion that the bottom 80% of men must settle for the bottom 20% of women in the US. I listen to MGTOW videos merely as a series of hypotheses. Agree or disagree, MGTOW does present ideas. The next step is to go about evaluating those ideas. Some are correct, others are demonstrably wrong, still others fit the mold of "he's telling HIS truth", to borrow a phrase from "The Grapes of Wrath".

Do you believe the notion in the title to be true? Why or why not?

Of course, I prefer Brazilian MGTOW over US MGTOW. With US MGTOW, men swear off women; Brazilian MGTOW enjoys women but never forgets to keep that guard up. I like the Brazilian approach so much better.
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I'd stay away from garbage web groups like that. But they're probably right to a point. 80% of the women probably 'pursue' (or at least hold out for) the most desirable 20% of men; likewise 80% of men do the same with the best 20% of women. When those two top 20% groups end up with each other anyway, the rest settle for someone else. So everyone gets some in the end.
 
SDET said:
What baffles me is that a substantial number of men willingly sit down at a gender poker game with a marked deck. One would think that they would at least do SOMETHING to mitigate their risk. Beyond that "equal" is not defined.
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You didnt actually define equal but I probably go along with that of ours in the US.

If you directly answered my questions, it facilitates discussion and you might discover an answer...or questions that focus in more on the questions.
 
uptower said:
I'd stay away from garbage web groups like that. But they're probably right to a point. 80% of the women probably 'pursue' (or at least hold out for) the most desirable 20% of men; likewise 80% of men do the same with the best 20% of women. When those two top 20% groups end up with each other anyway, the rest settle for someone else. So everyone gets some in the end.
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Nice concise way to actually answer the question in the OP. I try not to treat perspectives as garbage. If nothing else, they provide notions to be tested and evaluated. Just because someone presents an idea, there is no obligation to agree with it. Actually, they can sometimes provide the satisfaction of something to demonstrate as wrong.
 
Lursa said:
How is it rigged?
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Divorce laws, principally, but there's more beyond that. There's the contradictory notion of men sacrificing for women, while feigning "equality".

I can't stand some shrill harpy expecting me to move boxes or furniture "because I'm a man".

Who usually pays for dinner? If you pay attention to the corporate culture, you'll notice that when men and women become adversaries, the woman is at an advantage. She can always claim the man was "aggressive", while she can become truly aggressive and it's OK. I have seen example after example of men taking it on the chin in relationships while it's the woman that dishes it out.

Just stand around the water cooler or soda fountain or where ever the common gossip spot is in a major corporation and it will become quite clear. There's no need to talk, just stand around and listen.
 
TheGoverness said:
Correct answer. MGTOW's are sad groups of people, that blame every one of their problems on women. There one step away from incel-territory.
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This. Mgtows tend to be the most cultish and insanely misogynistic of the man-o-sphere. Well at least until incels showed up....
 
SDET said:
With the existence of homosexual marriage, some women are now exposed to the same risks that men in MGTOW have had to deal with.
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Those people can then cry us a river or grow up
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Taking MGTOW advice on relationships with women is like taking a vegan's advice on eating a steak dinner.

Ranking people (by quintiles or on a scale of 1 to 10) based on their attractiveness or desirability as a life partner is a weird thing to do. Who I would choose to "pursue" is based more on factors which could not be determined based on physical appearance or even their self-described attributes in a brief encounter. If your goal is to choose one person as a life partner then you must obviously omit (eventually reject?) 99.9999999..% of all others
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Finally we agree. Progress has been made.
 
Lutherf said:
I had to look up what that meant. Apparently it isn't "I'm going fishing. Be back Thursday"
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Be glad you havnt dealt with em. Very cringey folks.
 
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