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This is how you deal with punk ass kids

Winchester said:
The guy who called the sheriff appears to be kind of a dick. Didn't look like the kids were really hurting anything, granted if it was his property he had the right to tell them to vacate, which if people are polite to each other normally isn't a big deal.
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I agree but perhaps the kids have broken things in the past or he just might not want a kid getting injured on his property.
 
Bodhisattva said:
Mouthing off at a cop is very strange behaviour for a 13 year old kid... I teach high school... we had a kid last year yell at a cop and kids still talk about it shocked. Even the kinda rough edgy kids thought he was out of line.
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That's the parents fault, not the kid. That cop should have taken his name and telephone number and called the parents down to the police station in the middle of the afternoon so they'd have to take time off from work. Then they could have handed a $100 fine to those parents. That kid wouldn't skateboard in a no skateboard zone again.
 
HumblePi said:
That's the parents fault, not the kid. That cop should have taken his name and telephone number and called the parents down to the police station in the middle of the afternoon so they'd have to take time off from work. Then they could have handed a $100 fine to those parents. That kid wouldn't skateboard in a no skateboard zone again.
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It could be the parents fault, in part. It is also the kids fault for skateboarding in areas they shouldn't and mouthing off to an officer (if they did).
 
mike2810 said:
It could be the parents fault, in part. It is also the kids fault for skateboarding in areas they shouldn't and mouthing off to an officer (if they did).
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If the kid is mouthing off to a police officer, that still goes right back to the fault of the parents for not raising him to respect the law and adults in general.
 
HumblePi said:
A cop should be informed as to how to handle 13 year old kids diplomatically without having to resort to handcuffing them or using force. Using any type of force with an adolescent should be the very last resort. A similar event happened in Tampa, Florida a couple of years ago. When excessive force is used by any policeman with a juvenile, it means one thing. The cop has been poorly trained. These skateboarding violators can be dealt with in many other ways.

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I generally have issues with phone vids because at times they do not tell the full and complete story.
Questions I have on the one you posted.
- What prompted the person recording the vid to start filming as the cops drove up?
- What is not shown is what caused the person to say "oh geez, scared the hell out of me"., What action scared him?
- What is not shown is what was the kid doing before the cop strong armed him?

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HumblePi said:
If the kid is mouthing off to a police officer, that still goes right back to the fault of the parents for not raising him to respect the law and adults in general.
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That may be an issue. Did your parents control you 100% of the time? Did you ever go against what they asked or taught you not to do? Not even once?
 
Disrespectful little assholes. I hope his parents apologized for being failures.
 
Bodhisattva said:
I agree but perhaps the kids have broken things in the past or he just might not want a kid getting injured on his property.
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That's what I was thinking...perhaps this is not the 1st time the guy has had to confront the little hellions and he's just fed up...
 
Elvira said:
That's what I was thinking...perhaps this is not the 1st time the guy has had to confront the little hellions and he's just fed up...
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Skater kids like these bug the heck out of me... see how they kept skating up the ramp even as the guy was standing there telling them not to? Skaters are some of the biggest punks out there because they don't care and they think it is a game to screw with people.
 
mike2810 said:
That may be an issue. Did your parents control you 100% of the time? Did you ever go against what they asked or taught you not to do? Not even once?
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I grew up in an old fashioned French-Canadian, super Catholic family of 8. Does that answer your question?
 
HumblePi said:
I grew up in an old fashioned French-Canadian, super Catholic family of 8. Does that answer your question?
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Yep.
You only mouthed off to nuns and they hit you with a ruler.:mrgreen:
 
mike2810 said:
That may be an issue. Did your parents control you 100% of the time? Did you ever go against what they asked or taught you not to do? Not even once?
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Agreed...in spite of doing all the right things, kids still mess up...I would welcome a PO scaring the bajeebies outta my kid if he behaved like this...and then I would do it again...
 
Elvira said:
Agreed...in spite of doing all the right things, kids still mess up...I would welcome a PO scaring the bajeebies outta my kid if he behaved like this...and then I would do it again...
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Especially when a kid are becoming teenagers. Some like to see how far they can push parents (or authority). I have seen the family unit change in the US. To me there are more single parent families where dad or mom is absent.

I also support the scared straight approach for some kids.
 
mike2810 said:
Especially when a kid are becoming teenagers. Some like to see how far they can push parents (or authority). I have seen the family unit change in the US. To me there are more single parent families where dad or mom is absent.

I also support the scared straight approach for some kids.
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Yep, we've gone from tough love to no love, where our kids are involved...sometimes i think kids do things like this to get their parents attention, to no avail...instead they hear, "there, there little Johnny, the big, bad, PO hurt your wittle feelin's...how dare he!"
 
mike2810 said:
Yep.
You only mouthed off to nuns and they hit you with a ruler.:mrgreen:
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Or they stick you under their desk with the smelly black stockings.
 
Elvira said:
Yep, we've gone from tough love to no love, where our kids are involved...sometimes i think kids do things like this to get their parents attention, to no avail...instead they hear, "there, there little Johnny, the big, bad, PO hurt your wittle feelin's...how dare he!"
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Don't forget the "participation trophy". No need to keep score, we all are winners. :mrgreen:

Today's 13 year old should know about private property is not for use without permission. Teenagers should know areas that prohibit skateboarding/bikes in certain areas.

Back to the OP. I really see nothing wrong in what the LE did. No gun pulled or mace or Taser. I also see nothing wrong in the second posted vid. The second one does not show enough to say the LE acted inappropriately.
 
Lutherf said:
I was about that kid's age, maybe a year or two older, when a cop stopped me as I was just walking down the street. It was probably 3am and I'd simply gone for a walk as I was prone to do. I wasn't messing anything up but, in hindsight, it probably did look kind of weird to a cop seeing a 14 year old kid wandering the streets that time of the morning. Anyway, the cop stopped me and asked for ID. I was indignant as I'd done nothing wrong and got a little mouthy. If I remember correctly, my line was something along the lines of "What? Do you see a stolen TV in my hands?". At that point the cop put me in his car and drove me home where he informed my mother that I'd been out wandering and he didn't want me to get into trouble. When I complained to my mother about my "mistreatment" she informed me that if I hadn't mouthed off it wouldn't have been a problem. The cop was right and I was wrong.

That was an important lesson for me. I realized that the idea of an "injustice" was rather subjective. The cop had a responsibility to insure that I wasn't vandalizing anything or that I hadn't been abused or anything else. It really WAS a good idea for him to be checking out a person just wandering the streets in the middle of the night. I hadn't been stopped for "no good reason" and the questioning was wholly appropriate. I realized that before I got all defensive it might be a good idea to hear the cop's side of the story and THEN evaluate how I wanted to respond.
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The cop was wrong...

And its unfortunate for our society that you think he was right. There is nothing wrong with the cop questioning you at that time of night.

There is nothing wrong with you getting indignant at the police officer.. at being stopped. You have the duty to question authority... its what keeps us a free country.

The cop definitely did not have the right to illegally detain you and put you in his car.
 
Bodhisattva said:
Skater kids like these bug the heck out of me... see how they kept skating up the ramp even as the guy was standing there telling them not to? Skaters are some of the biggest punks out there because they don't care and they think it is a game to screw with people.
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It kind of frightens me that someone who teaches kids doesn't seem to know what a generalization is.
 
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Bodhisattva said:
Skater kids like these bug the heck out of me... see how they kept skating up the ramp even as the guy was standing there telling them not to? Skaters are some of the biggest punks out there because they don't care and they think it is a game to screw with people.
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Jelly.
 
DH Kirkwood said:
It kind of frightens me that someone who teaches kids doesn't seem to know what a generalization is.
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I did not generalize... I made a specific argument about a specific group.

I bet that you used to argue with your teachers, thinking that you were clever, catching them in a mistake, huh? :lol:
 
Bodhisattva said:
I did not generalize... I made a specific argument about a specific group.
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So, do you think that a generalization is a blanket statement about all people? You can add the phrase, 'very specific group of people', but that doesn't actually mean anything in this context. Jews are a very specific group of people, so are Muslims, Christians, rednecks, gamers, and so on. What you just did was make a blanket-statement about kids who skate in general. I doubt that your personal experience with a relatively small sample of skaters is sufficient enough to justify making such a broadly sweeping statement about the group as a whole.

This really should have been kicked into your head when you first started using the Internet regularly.

I bet that you used to argue with your teachers, thinking that you were clever, catching them in a mistake, huh? :lol:
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If you find yourself regularly having your ass handed to you by your own students, then there might be a reason for that.
 
HumblePi said:
Big bad fat cop didn't meet his quota of arresting 13 year olds that week I guess. Wow, he's such a hero.
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Typical liberal reaction.

Liberals love it when they can get in peoples faces and be a smart ass without repercussions.

This kid got exactly what he deserved.
 
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