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    Re: Crime in Dallas County is fixin' to plummet!

    Quote Originally Posted by Skeptic Bob View Post
    It ain't even those dirty hippies in Austin, either. It is Dallas Freaking Country!

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    Yeah, that amazing. I originally figured it was Austin, when I first saw the headline; but no!

    But let's not forget:

    Alabama now has a post-Southern-Strategy Dem Senator.

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    Re: Crime in Dallas County is fixin' to plummet!

    The Democratic prosecutor told the elected governor and legislature "F U! I'm the pure socialist dictator of Dallas County!" announcing that anyone can steal anything they want from any store provided they do not steal more than $750 worth each time. What better way for him to outlaw capitalism and retaliate against every business in Dallas Country.

    Hungry? No problem. All restaurants are free. Everything is free. Just take it. The Democratic socialist prosecutor is running cover for you.

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    Re: Crime in Dallas County is fixin' to plummet!

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Frankly, I don't believe that anyone should be charged for low level drug crimes, but my opinion doesn't matter much. What does matter is that in reality each are not arrested and charged equally. It's an often corrupt system, with people making completely arbitrary decisions. GIVEN that state of affairs, I much prefer to standardize the policies, and have them apply to everyone, rich, poor, influential, a nobody, etc.

    In this case the DA does have the discretion, he ran on doing this and was elected TO DO what he promised. As I keep saying, these little experiments are fantastic IMO. Much better to try it in Dallas County, see the results, see what works, what failed, before even state much less federal laws are changed with no data, no evidence, on the likely outcomes.
    Really they should eliminate the oath of office for DAs since he knowingly, willfully and deliberately is violating his oath of office - and all legislators and the governor should be fired since they are irrelevant. Rather, each local prosecutor is the total dictator of his county, the perfect thug with a gun and hundreds of thugs with badges in his employment.

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    Re: Crime in Dallas County is fixin' to plummet!

    Quote Originally Posted by Lovebug View Post
    Low level drugs, I agree. Not so sure how well loitering in front of businesses will turn out. Some of the folks don't just sit there politely. Put yourself in the shoes of owner or customer.
    In a perfect world, none of our fellow citizens would be homeless, but alas...a compromise should be found.
    Loitering is beneficial to allow better selection as to who to rob. But be careful not to rob anyone of more than $750. Preventing loitering would interfere with the DA's goals of promoting theft and robbery as part of his declaring Dallas County is now near purely socialistic.

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    Re: Crime in Dallas County is fixin' to plummet!

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Really they should eliminate the oath of office for DAs since he knowingly, willfully and deliberately is violating his oath of office - and all legislators and the governor should be fired since they are irrelevant. Rather, each local prosecutor is the total dictator of his county, the perfect thug with a gun and hundreds of thugs with badges in his employment.
    Right, thugs who don't prosecute low level criminals, which are the scariest kind of thugs out there, the ones who are transparent, treat every violator the same, as opposed to handing out passes to the rich and powerful and throwing the book at the poor.

    Anyway, DAs and cops simply DO have the discretion to do what they're doing. It's no different in theory than the Obama and TRUMP DoJ using their discretion to NOT swarm into Colorado and other states and shutting down all those pot stores. So should we disband the federal government because TRUMP is allowing pot sales to go forward, despite federal laws prohibiting those sales? Should we eliminate the oath of office for President since he knowingly, willfully and deliberately is violating his oath, same as the FBI, DEA, etc.?

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    Re: Crime in Dallas County is fixin' to plummet!

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Mostly because the new DA won't be prosecuting most crimes.

    DA Creuzot letter to the people of Dallas County

    Misdemeanor possession of weed? Won't be prosecuted. Flipping Xanax on the corner? No jail until it comes back from testing and then you get a ticket instead of a warrant. Homeless sleeping in front of your business? Too bad for you! It's "inhumane" to run them off. That homeless person sleeping in front of your store just stole 20 cases of beer? Nobody's going to prosecute that because theft of personal items less than $750 is now legal in Dallas County. Well, it's not really legal but nobody is going to prosecute it. Is your license suspended? Feel free to drive. Nobody is going to prosecute stuff like that. Are you looking at probation? Don't sweat it. Nobody is going to ask for anything significant. Your lower level felonies won't get more than 6 months probation. Do you need to come up with bail? Not in Dallas County! Low level felons with no convictions in the last 5 years are to be released on their own recognizance. Good luck, Dallas County! Something tells me you're going to need it.
    Reading the actual letter and your 'summation' is like two different worlds....

    You used to be better....

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    Re: Crime in Dallas County is fixin' to plummet!

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Right, thugs who don't prosecute low level criminals, which are the scariest kind of thugs out there, the ones who are transparent, treat every violator the same, as opposed to handing out passes to the rich and powerful and throwing the book at the poor.

    Anyway, DAs and cops simply DO have the discretion to do what they're doing. It's no different in theory than the Obama and TRUMP DoJ using their discretion to NOT swarm into Colorado and other states and shutting down all those pot stores. So should we disband the federal government because TRUMP is allowing pot sales to go forward, despite federal laws prohibiting those sales? Should we eliminate the oath of office for President since he knowingly, willfully and deliberately is violating his oath, same as the FBI, DEA, etc.?
    I do think either the federal law on pot should be changed or it should be enforced. Otherwise it means selective enforcement. The ONLY thing that makes laws legitimate is if they are universally enforced. Otherwise they are just political and personal weapons the government uses against people someone in government doesn't like. Why is the government arresting pot smugglers with long prison terms, while doing nothing to pot shops that many of which have much more?

    In this instance, though, it is more than that. The District Attorney has literally entered into a mass conspiracy with thieves against businesses that should be able to rely upon the law protecting them and their businesses were started when theft was criminally illegal. These CRIMES by the Democrat District Attorney are against every victim of theft under $750.

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    Re: Crime in Dallas County is fixin' to plummet!

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    I do think either the federal law on pot should be changed or it should be enforced. Otherwise it means selective enforcement. The ONLY thing that makes laws legitimate is if they are universally enforced. Otherwise they are just political and personal weapons the government uses against people someone in government doesn't like. Why is the government arresting pot smugglers with long prison terms, while doing nothing to pot shops that many of which have much more?
    But you're missing the point of announcing NO minor pot crimes will be prosecuted. By doing it, the DA removes the possibility of prosecutors or cops targeting people they don't like. It's completely transparent and addresses that issue head on.

    As to the feds, maybe I've missed you calling for Trump's head over willfully ignoring pot laws in the states that have legalized it, but my point was simply that exercising this kind of discretion is in fact part of our system, common, happens every minute of every day without controversy.

    In this instance, though, it is more than that. The District Attorney has literally entered into a mass conspiracy with thieves against businesses that should be able to rely upon the law protecting them and their businesses were started when theft was criminally illegal. These CRIMES by the Democrat District Attorney are against every victim of theft under $750.
    I'm not going to defend the $750 theft provision, but the proposed policy as written is very narrow. It only applies to theft of essentials, by people who aren't trying to make money - i.e. they're doing it for survival.

    Theft of Necessary Items
    Study after study shows that when we arrest, jail, and convict people for non-violent crimes
    committed out of necessity, we only prevent that person from gaining the stability necessary to
    lead a law-abiding life. Criminalizing poverty is counter-productive for our community’s
    health and safety. For that reason, this office will not prosecute theft of personal items less than
    $750 unless the evidence shows that the alleged theft was for economic gain.
    For starters I'd like to see the research. I'd also like a better understanding of how they draw a line between "necessity" and "for economic gain."

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