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Rosenstein's treason

marke

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Who has the legal authority to declare the president unfit to hold office? The democrats? No. Congressional committees? No. The FBI? No. The Justice Department? No. Democrat judges ? No. Rod Rosenstein? Hell no.

The President can either declare himself unable to continue fulfilling his duties as President, at which time the Vice President will be appointed to perform the duties of the President, or, only the Vice President and a majority of cabinet members or the Vice President with a special committee appointed by Congress is allowed by law to make the determination that the President is unable to fulfill his duties as President. There are no other legitimate means to invoke the 25th amendment.

Did Rosenstein contact Vice President Pence to discuss invoking the 25th amendment? No. Did Rosenstein discuss the 25th amendment possibility with President Trump? Hell no. So what the hell was Rosenstein and his inner circle at the Justice Department doing discussing the 25th amendment?

They were conspiring to overthrow the President of the United States, an act of treason.
 
The 25th amendment had been all over the news and was being discussed online and in every other type of media. It still is. It would have been stupid of them NOT to discuss and research the topic so they didn't seem like morons if and when the media or the administration asked them about it.
 
Who has the legal authority to declare the president unfit to hold office? The democrats? No. Congressional committees? No. The FBI? No. The Justice Department? No. Democrat judges ? No. Rod Rosenstein? Hell no.

The President can either declare himself unable to continue fulfilling his duties as President, at which time the Vice President will be appointed to perform the duties of the President, or, only the Vice President and a majority of cabinet members or the Vice President with a special committee appointed by Congress is allowed by law to make the determination that the President is unable to fulfill his duties as President. There are no other legitimate means to invoke the 25th amendment.

Did Rosenstein contact Vice President Pence to discuss invoking the 25th amendment? No. Did Rosenstein discuss the 25th amendment possibility with President Trump? Hell no. So what the hell was Rosenstein and his inner circle at the Justice Department doing discussing the 25th amendment?

They were conspiring to overthrow the President of the United States, an act of treason.

So no one besides certain people can discuss the 25th amendment?

Why do you hate the 1st amendment so much?

Why do you hate the constitution so much?

Why do you hate freedom so much?

Why do you hate America so much?

Very treasonous talk if you ask me.
 
Who has the legal authority to declare the president unfit to hold office? The democrats? No. Congressional committees? No. The FBI? No. The Justice Department? No. Democrat judges ? No. Rod Rosenstein? Hell no.

The President can either declare himself unable to continue fulfilling his duties as President, at which time the Vice President will be appointed to perform the duties of the President, or, only the Vice President and a majority of cabinet members or the Vice President with a special committee appointed by Congress is allowed by law to make the determination that the President is unable to fulfill his duties as President. There are no other legitimate means to invoke the 25th amendment.

Did Rosenstein contact Vice President Pence to discuss invoking the 25th amendment? No. Did Rosenstein discuss the 25th amendment possibility with President Trump? Hell no. So what the hell was Rosenstein and his inner circle at the Justice Department doing discussing the 25th amendment?

They were conspiring to overthrow the President of the United States, an act of treason.

Discussing the use of the 25th and acting on it are far different, me thinks you did not really think this out before posting.
 
Who has the legal authority to declare the president unfit to hold office? The democrats? No. Congressional committees? No. The FBI? No. The Justice Department? No. Democrat judges ? No. Rod Rosenstein? Hell no.

The President can either declare himself unable to continue fulfilling his duties as President, at which time the Vice President will be appointed to perform the duties of the President, or, only the Vice President and a majority of cabinet members or the Vice President with a special committee appointed by Congress is allowed by law to make the determination that the President is unable to fulfill his duties as President. There are no other legitimate means to invoke the 25th amendment.

Did Rosenstein contact Vice President Pence to discuss invoking the 25th amendment? No. Did Rosenstein discuss the 25th amendment possibility with President Trump? Hell no. So what the hell was Rosenstein and his inner circle at the Justice Department doing discussing the 25th amendment?

They were conspiring to overthrow the President of the United States, an act of treason.

Sorry, but everyone you listed and many many more have the right to discuss their opinion, and even suggest it to superiors.

That is what happened, you should be concerned that so many lifetime nonpartisan agents took such an extreme view.

They have Intel we don't have, and their reaction should be noted...
 
Discussing the use of the 25th and acting on it are far different, me thinks you did not really think this out before posting.

Wait, you actually expected marke to think before posting?

He doesn't think, god tells him what to type...
 
Who has the legal authority to declare the president unfit to hold office? The democrats? No. Congressional committees? No. The FBI? No. The Justice Department? No. Democrat judges ? No. Rod Rosenstein? Hell no.

The President can either declare himself unable to continue fulfilling his duties as President, at which time the Vice President will be appointed to perform the duties of the President, or, only the Vice President and a majority of cabinet members or the Vice President with a special committee appointed by Congress is allowed by law to make the determination that the President is unable to fulfill his duties as President. There are no other legitimate means to invoke the 25th amendment.

Did Rosenstein contact Vice President Pence to discuss invoking the 25th amendment? No. Did Rosenstein discuss the 25th amendment possibility with President Trump? Hell no. So what the hell was Rosenstein and his inner circle at the Justice Department doing discussing the 25th amendment?

They were conspiring to overthrow the President of the United States, an act of treason.

The text your keyboard resisted but was forced to type is insane. No more, no less.
 
So no one besides certain people can discuss the 25th amendment?

Why do you hate the 1st amendment so much?

Why do you hate the constitution so much?

Why do you hate freedom so much?

Why do you hate America so much?

Very treasonous talk if you ask me.

Rosenstein claimed he was only joking when he discussed wearing a wire to record Trump. That is like joking about assassinating the President of the US. That is why the Senate will be hauling Rosenstein in to explain why he was discussing the 25th amendment with his Trump-hating colleagues.
 
Wow. Every single word of this original post is wrong. How delusional and misinformed can these Trumpsters be??? They don't cease to amaze me.
 
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Discussing the use of the 25th and acting on it are far different, me thinks you did not really think this out before posting.

You can defend Rosenstein all you like, but the Senate is not going to allow the traitor to skate on this without first hauling his behind in to explain why he was discussing the 25th amendment and wearing a wire to secretly record Trump in the first place.
 
Rosenstein claimed he was only joking when he discussed wearing a wire to record Trump. That is like joking about assassinating the President of the US. That is why the Senate will be hauling Rosenstein in to explain why he was discussing the 25th amendment with his Trump-hating colleagues.

Do you ever stop to think that all those "trump hating colleagues" who are actually nonpartisan professional law enforcement agents, have their reasons for disliking trump?

These are people with all the intelligence on trump, they knew more than anyone else and still do.

Seems we should pay attention to the Canaries...
 
Sorry, but everyone you listed and many many more have the right to discuss their opinion, and even suggest it to superiors.

That is what happened, you should be concerned that so many lifetime nonpartisan agents took such an extreme view.

They have Intel we don't have, and their reaction should be noted...

You are wrong. Either they are stupid or they know the 25th amendment cannot be invoked by anyone but the President or Vice president. They can talk about it all they want but they have no right to conspire with fellow Trump haters to wear a wire to record Trump with the goal of using whatever they record to initiate his removal under the 25th amendment. Maybe Rosenstein was ignorant of the law but I don't think so. He knew what he was conspiring to do was illegal which is why he lied about his involvement in the scheme. The Senate will find out who is lying and who is telling the truth.
 
Do you ever stop to think that all those "trump hating colleagues" who are actually nonpartisan professional law enforcement agents, have their reasons for disliking trump?

These are people with all the intelligence on trump, they knew more than anyone else and still do.

Seems we should pay attention to the Canaries...

The birds who conspired to bring down Trump after he was elected may have been working at the Justice Department, but they were enemies of America, the Constitution and the President of the United States.
 
Do you ever stop to think that all those "trump hating colleagues" who are actually nonpartisan professional law enforcement agents, have their reasons for disliking trump?

These are people with all the intelligence on trump, they knew more than anyone else and still do.

Seems we should pay attention to the Canaries...

Who, exactly, are you talking about here? "nonpartisan"
 
Who has the legal authority to declare the president unfit to hold office? The democrats? No. Congressional committees? No. The FBI? No. The Justice Department? No. Democrat judges ? No. Rod Rosenstein? Hell no.

The President can either declare himself unable to continue fulfilling his duties as President, at which time the Vice President will be appointed to perform the duties of the President, or, only the Vice President and a majority of cabinet members or the Vice President with a special committee appointed by Congress is allowed by law to make the determination that the President is unable to fulfill his duties as President. There are no other legitimate means to invoke the 25th amendment.

Did Rosenstein contact Vice President Pence to discuss invoking the 25th amendment? No. Did Rosenstein discuss the 25th amendment possibility with President Trump? Hell no. So what the hell was Rosenstein and his inner circle at the Justice Department doing discussing the 25th amendment?

They were conspiring to overthrow the President of the United States, an act of treason.

Opposing an illegitimate president who is obviously mentally damaged and potentially compromised by our main foreign adversary is an act of supreme patriotism demonstrating ones love for the American people.
 
Opposing an illegitimate president who is obviously mentally damaged and potentially compromised by our main foreign adversary is an act of supreme patriotism demonstrating ones love for the American people.

Hillary falsely claimed Trump colluded with Russia to steal her dirty email underwear, but that was a lie. Seth Rich gave the mess to Assange and the democrats assassinated him for that. Trying to overthrow Trump because so many leftist morons believe Hillary's lie is wrong and, in fact, treasonous.
 
You can defend Rosenstein all you like, but the Senate is not going to allow the traitor to skate on this without first hauling his behind in to explain why he was discussing the 25th amendment and wearing a wire to secretly record Trump in the first place.

The Senate will do nothing more than question him, if they even do that. Why is it you seem so worried that trump could be recorded, is it that you know it could actually show that he has competency issues?
 
Hillary falsely claimed Trump colluded with Russia to steal her dirty email underwear, but that was a lie. Seth Rich gave the mess to Assange and the democrats assassinated him for that. Trying to overthrow Trump because so many leftist morons believe Hillary's lie is wrong and, in fact, treasonous.

It has been long established that Russian interfered in our election to both hurt Clinton and help elect Putin. even Putin admitted that in Helsinki.

For you or anyone to pretend otherwise is simply a delusional denial of reality.
 
It has been long established that Russian interfered in our election to both hurt Clinton and help elect Putin. even Putin admitted that in Helsinki.

For you or anyone to pretend otherwise is simply a delusional denial of reality.

Is that really the biggest problem with his moronic post? He claimed the Dems assassinated Seth Rich.
 
Who has the legal authority to declare the president unfit to hold office? The democrats? No. Congressional committees? No. The FBI? No. The Justice Department? No. Democrat judges ? No. Rod Rosenstein? Hell no.

The President can either declare himself unable to continue fulfilling his duties as President, at which time the Vice President will be appointed to perform the duties of the President, or, only the Vice President and a majority of cabinet members or the Vice President with a special committee appointed by Congress is allowed by law to make the determination that the President is unable to fulfill his duties as President. There are no other legitimate means to invoke the 25th amendment.

Did Rosenstein contact Vice President Pence to discuss invoking the 25th amendment? No. Did Rosenstein discuss the 25th amendment possibility with President Trump? Hell no. So what the hell was Rosenstein and his inner circle at the Justice Department doing discussing the 25th amendment?

They were conspiring to overthrow the President of the United States, an act of treason.

Rosenstein has committed no treason, nor can you demonstrate that he has.

Please learn words.
 
Is that really the biggest problem with his moronic post? He claimed the Dems assassinated Seth Rich.

Trying to convince the local self proclaimed Napoleon in the mental ward that he does not rule France is normally a waste of time. Better to point out he has the wrong hand in his jacket opening.
 
Who has the legal authority to declare the president unfit to hold office? The democrats? No. Congressional committees? No. The FBI? No. The Justice Department? No. Democrat judges ? No. Rod Rosenstein? Hell no.

The President can either declare himself unable to continue fulfilling his duties as President, at which time the Vice President will be appointed to perform the duties of the President, or, only the Vice President and a majority of cabinet members or the Vice President with a special committee appointed by Congress is allowed by law to make the determination that the President is unable to fulfill his duties as President. There are no other legitimate means to invoke the 25th amendment.

Did Rosenstein contact Vice President Pence to discuss invoking the 25th amendment? No. Did Rosenstein discuss the 25th amendment possibility with President Trump? Hell no. So what the hell was Rosenstein and his inner circle at the Justice Department doing discussing the 25th amendment?

They were conspiring to overthrow the President of the United States, an act of treason.

Legitimately discussing possibly invoking the tenets of the 25th AMENDMENT, by Rosenstein and those involved, is not, NOT, an act of Treason under Article III Section 3 of the United States Constitution regarding what constitutes "treason".

U.S. Constitution › Article III

Section 3.

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.

The Congress shall have power to declare the punishment of treason, but no attainder of treason shall work corruption of blood, or forfeiture except during the life of the person attainted.

Please, please, please do get a clue how our Government actually works so as to not embarrass yourself even further with these spurious notions.
 
Discussing the use of the 25th and acting on it are far different, me thinks you did not really think this out before posting.

Being very Conservative means never having to engage logical thought processes before acting, methinks!
 
The Senate will do nothing more than question him, if they even do that. Why is it you seem so worried that trump could be recorded, is it that you know it could actually show that he has competency issues?

Why do you not see the reason high ranking talk of treason is horribly wrong?
 
It has been long established that Russian interfered in our election to both hurt Clinton and help elect Putin. even Putin admitted that in Helsinki.

For you or anyone to pretend otherwise is simply a delusional denial of reality.

Wrong. What has been proven is that Hillary was butthurt when Assange released her dirty secret emails so she falsely blamed Trump to try to salvage her candidacy from the damage her own dirty secrets brought on her own head.
 
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