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    Re: Fresh out of Baltimore police academy and on the attack

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    True, the police have to have a reason to detain a person against their will, and that has been defined by the SCOTUS - probable cause, which includes suspecting that you may have committed, are committing, or are about to commit a crime, so that they can investigate the possibility. Walking down the street is not probable cause. Being in a neighborhood that is not your own, is not probable cause. The smell of marijuana or alcoholic spirits, is. Running from the police, is. A report to the police that a person matching your description has committed a crime, is. And so on.

    The police can detain you by touching you, a civilian cannot.

    To be clear, I'm not defending the actions of this officer. I'm just discussing the law and what happened in those terms only.
    the can only detain you if they have probable cause.
    yelling at a cop is not probable cause but a protected 1st amendment right.


    this cop put the guy in the hospital with sever injuries. his partner should have arrested him right there for assault and battery.

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    Re: Fresh out of Baltimore police academy and on the attack

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    the can only detain you if they have probable cause.
    Which my post you quoted specifically mentioned and then went on to elaborate upon.
    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    yelling at a cop is not probable cause but a protected 1st amendment right.
    Correct. Doesn't make it proper, but it is very much a protected form of speech, and even though I disagree with it, I will defend anyone's right to do so.


    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    this cop put the guy in the hospital with sever injuries. his partner should have arrested him right there for assault and battery.
    As I said in numerous posts in this thread, I am not in any way trying to defend what the cop did, other than to say that when the civilian put his hands on the cop (pushing the cop's hand away) was assault on an officer. I did not and have not tried to defend or determine whether that action by assault by the civilian was justified or not.
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