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Another Zimmerman thread.

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Vox said:
As I said, if you want to rehash Martin/Zimmerman......start your own thread.
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Not that that they will respond, but here is a thread if they choose to.



ludin said:
I still say that zimmerman was a bad shoot.

The reason is this.

Zimmerman was following someone. That person had no idea who he was and zimmerman failed to follow any kind of procedure as identifying himself.
I have been in plenty of cities when traveling and not all of them are nice area's. I very much watch out for anyone and everyone walking.

If someone is following me or running after me you bet i consider them a threat and i am going to defend myself.

Zimmerman to me is the aggressor in this situation therefore he should have been charged with murder.
causing an incident and then start losing said incident doesn't mean you get to shoot someone.

This is more of a toss up. The guy assaulted him for no reason. If there is a video it will very much play into whether or not
the guy that attacked him is a threat and the AG will go off of that.
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There is no validity to your take.
1. Following for legitimate purpose as Zimmerman did is not a valid reason to attack him, and does not make Zimmerman the aggressor.
2. Secondly, Zimmerman was no longer following him at that point when Trayvon came out from Zimmerman's rear left, mind you, on Zimmerman return path.
So Trayvon came out from a safe place to attack. That is Trayvon being the aggressor.


ludin said:
while still being pursued by someone he did not know.
maybe he couldn't get home.

there is also the fact that zimmerman disobeyed a direct order by police not to engage and follow the person.
anyone following me is a threat period. more so if they do not identify themselves and who they are.

by them being a threat i have a right to defend myself if needed if they continue to pursue me.
doesn't matter if he lost sight of him or not.

if someone is following me i am going to try and lose them. if i can't lose them then i am going to defend myself.
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1. No matter how many times you say it, trying to keep an eye on a suspect so you can identify them to police, is not called pursuit.
2. Zimmerman did not disobey a direct order. That is a completely foolish claim and just shows you know not of what you speak.
a. The call taker told Zimmerman that they did not need him to do that. That is not an order, but a request.
b. That call taker had no authority to give any order, and even if they had been a police Officer no order could be given as they are not on scene and in control. Not to mention an order can create a liability unlike a suggestion for a persons own safety.​
3. Zimmerman, to his credit, did indeed follow the suggestion and stopped following. He went East when Trayvon had gone South.
4. And again. Zimmerman passed by the area and Trayvon was nowhere to be seen. He only came out after Zimmerman was returning through the area and came from Zimmerman's left rear. Not only is that leaving the safety of your position to confront/attack but suggests that he laid in wait.



vegas giants said:
Did anyone witness the confrontation between Zimmerman and Martin and the actual shooting?
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The whole incident? No.
In parts? Yes. And of what they relayed they saw and/or heard was consistent with what Zimmerman reported.
 
Anyone who fails to realize by now that Martin was just a cheap thug and Zimmerman a good citizen is without hope of understanding......especially after they televised the whole trial and it became so obvious that Martin's friends were not just liars, but feeble-minded liars with no hope of being believed.
 
Vox said:
Anyone who fails to realize by now that Martin was just a cheap thug and Zimmerman a good citizen is without hope of understanding......especially after they televised the whole trial and it became so obvious that Martin's friends were not just liars, but feeble-minded liars with no hope of being believed.
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Basically.

That and the Martin parents can go suck it.....
 
Vox said:
Anyone who fails to realize by now that Martin was just a cheap thug and Zimmerman a good citizen is without hope of understanding......especially after they televised the whole trial and it became so obvious that Martin's friends were not just liars, but feeble-minded liars with no hope of being believed.
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Zimmerman is a complete sleeze who’s fortunate that being an asshole isn’t against the law.
 
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Vox said:
Anyone who fails to realize by now that Martin was just a cheap thug and Zimmerman a good citizen is without hope of understanding......especially after they televised the whole trial and it became so obvious that Martin's friends were not just liars, but feeble-minded liars with no hope of being believed.
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"Good citizens" don't beat up on women, right?
 
americanwoman said:
"Good citizens" don't beat up on women, right?
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No, but they are alert to thugs that have mayhem in mind. That's the topic here......not subsequent behavior.
 
Vox said:
Anyone who fails to realize by now that Martin was just a cheap thug and Zimmerman a good citizen is without hope of understanding......especially after they televised the whole trial and it became so obvious that Martin's friends were not just liars, but feeble-minded liars with no hope of being believed.
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Zimmerman is a POS. Martin was a developing thug. Zimmerman created the environment. Martin attacked Zimmerman. There were no angels there that night.
 
Vox said:
No, but they are alert to thugs that have mayhem in mind. That's the topic here......not subsequent behavior.
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True, it's not like Trayvon got any chance for subsequent behavior while Zimmerman is free to assault multiple other people.
 
americanwoman said:
True, it's not like Trayvon got any chance for subsequent behavior while Zimmerman is free to assault multiple other people.
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Since Martin's school records showed that he was indeed a thug--a thief who had a propensity for violence.......it's a damned good thing he didn't have an opportunity for "subsequent behavior."

Zimmerman may be a flawed man, but what he did that night was a public service.
 
americanwoman said:
"Good citizens" don't beat up on women, right?
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There is all kinds of "good citizens" beating up on women, like Ronda Rousey.

But in regards to what you refer. Allegations do not count, and retracted allegations certainly do not count.

Funny thing here is that women beat up on men all the time and are still considered "good citizens".
 
Excon said:
There is all kinds of "good citizens" beating up on women, like Ronda Rousey.

But in regards to what you refer. Allegations do not count, and retracted allegations certainly do not count.

Funny thing here is that women beat up on men all the time and are still considered "good citizens".
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Maybe in your opinion. In my opinion anyone who beats up on someone outside a professional sport setting isn't a good citizen.
 
Vox said:
Anyone who fails to realize by now that Martin was just a cheap thug and Zimmerman a good citizen is without hope of understanding......especially after they televised the whole trial and it became so obvious that Martin's friends were not just liars, but feeble-minded liars with no hope of being believed.
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Translation: Martin was black
 
Vox said:
No, Martin was a dangerous thug.....proven by his school records of theft, burglary and violence.
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Have you seen Zimmermann's record lately?

Oh, I forgot. He wasn't the black dude. There's no reason for you to bother with thugging him out.
 
calamity said:
Have you seen Zimmermann's record lately?

Oh, I forgot. He wasn't the black dude. There's no reason for you to bother with thugging him out.
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Maybe because........Zimmerman is not a thug, but instead a good citizen who exterminated a thug--doing an important public service?
 
Vox said:
Maybe because........Zimmerman is not a thug, but instead a good citizen who exterminated a thug--doing an important public service?
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LMAO!! Good citizens don't have an arm's length rap sheet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Zimmerman#Other_encounters_with_law_enforcement

In July 2005, when he was 21, Zimmerman was arrested after shoving an undercover alcohol control agent while a friend of Zimmerman's was being arrested for underage drinking. The officer alleged that Zimmerman had said, "I don't care who you are," followed by a profanity, and had refused to leave the area after the officer had shown his badge.[37] The charges were subsequently dropped when Zimmerman entered a pre-trial diversion program that included anger management classes.[3][38]

Also in 2005, Zimmerman's ex-fiancée filed a restraining order against him, alleging domestic violence. Zimmerman requested a reciprocal restraining order. Both orders were granted.[3][39] These incidents were raised by prosecutors at Zimmerman's initial bond hearing. The judge described them as "run of the mill."[40][41]

Zimmerman's wife Shellie pleaded guilty on August 28, 2013, to a reduced misdemeanor perjury charge for lying under oath. She was sentenced to a year's probation and 100 hours of community service. She lied about their assets during a bail hearing following his arrest for shooting Martin. Days before the bond hearing, she moved $74,000, broken into smaller transfers, from his credit union account to hers. $47,000 was transferred from George's account to his sister's in the days before the bond hearing. Amounts of over $10,000 would have been reported to the Internal Revenue Service. Four days after Zimmerman was released on bond, she transferred more than $85,500 from her account into her husband's account. The jail recorded Zimmerman instructing her on a call to "pay off all the bills," including credit cards.[42]
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americanwoman said:
lmao!! Good citizens don't have an arm's length rap sheet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/george_zimmerman#other_encounters_with_law_enforcement
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roflmao!!!

:lamo:lamo:lamo:lamo:lamo

If you read your own link you'd see that Zimmerman has been falsely accused of things......apparently mostly by hysterical women who dropped the charges when cops checked their stories (except for his ex-wife who ended paying for her lies by almost going to prison and plea bargained her way to probation and 100 hours of community service).

Zimmerman has also been assaulted and libeled and not convicted of anything.

Let us not forget that he exterminated a violent thug......thus probably saving lives with his courageous actions.
 
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calamity said:
lol...white guy is always a "good citizen." Amirite.

Good Citizen Zimmermann's police encounters since killing that poor, innocent boy:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...law-trayvon-martin-shooting-article-1.3990414
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Zimmerman has been falsely accused of things......apparently mostly by hysterical women who dropped the charges when cops checked their stories (except for his ex-wife who ended paying for her lies by almost going to prison and plea bargained her way to probation and 100 hours of community service).

Zimmerman has also been assaulted and libeled and not convicted of anything.

Let us not forget that he exterminated a violent thug......thus probably saving lives with his courageous actions.
 
Vox said:
Zimmerman has been falsely accused of things......apparently mostly by hysterical women who dropped the charges when cops checked their stories (except for his ex-wife who ended paying for her lies by almost going to prison and plea bargained her way to probation and 100 hours of community service).

Zimmerman has also been assaulted and libeled and not convicted of anything.

Let us not forget that he exterminated a violent thug......thus probably saving lives with his courageous actions.
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More Good Citizen George:

https://whotv.com/2018/05/24/george-zimmerman-to-court-i-have-no-job-no-assets-and-owe-2-5-million/

A court allowed George Zimmerman to use a public defender in his alleged stalking case after he filed documents saying he’s $2.5 million in debt and has zero income.

Zimmerman is facing stalking accusations in his latest legal woes...
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More like deadbeat George.

:lamo


Yeah, I know. White guy ---> good citizen. :roll:
 
Vox said:
Since Martin's school records showed that he was indeed a thug--a thief who had a propensity for violence.......it's a damned good thing he didn't have an opportunity for "subsequent behavior."

Zimmerman may be a flawed man, but what he did that night was a public service.
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yay... we have reached full minority report were we can seek justice in advance of any crimes.
 
I wish.

Our streets would be safe.
 
Zimmerman was just like this coward in the recent SYG case. A chicken **** that has to hide behind a gun, then go out and start trouble.

Zimmerman instigated this by stalking Trayvon. the cops told him not to go after him, and he wanted to be big tough guy. Guaranteed if he didn't have a gun, he wouldn't have followed him. Trayvon didn't know why this guy was following him, he could have easily feared for his life, which is why he eventually attacked Zimmerman. At least in this case Trayvon was wailing on him.

Zimmerman, just another irresponsible "reponsible" gun owner. A complete coward hiding behind the gun and looking for trouble.

In the recent case, a push and the guy just standing there, backing up feet away is not the same as being in the middle of an altercation.

but regardless, both cowards instigated things
 
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