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Another Zimmerman thread.

I will be glad if Zimmerman gets arrested and sent to prison for the rest of his life. With his actions: has made him not to be the NRA golden boy anymore.
You hope the victim suffers harm? That is just dumb.
 
You hope the victim suffers harm? That is just dumb.

He is not the victim, Zimmerman. He went outside with a gun. He confronted the teenager with a gun. He shot him and killed him. And the teenager did not know he was living in a sundown apartment complex.
 
He is not the victim, Zimmerman. He went outside with a gun. He confronted the teenager with a gun. He shot him and killed him. And the teenager did not know he was living in a sundown apartment complex.

Correct
 
You hope the victim suffers harm? That is just dumb.

The white guy is always the “victim,” even when he’s a grown ass man shooting to death an unarmed black kid who is still in his teen years. We know :roll:
 
Thank you for showing you are ignorant of this case and the law.

He is not the victim, Zimmerman.
Wrong. Zimmerman was the victim in this case.


He went outside with a gun.
Irrelevant. He is licensed to carry, which is a Constitutionally protected act, and he was heading to the store when he saw a person suspicious enough to call the police.


He confronted the teenager with a gun.
You clearly know not if what you speak.
When it was suggested that they did not need Zimmerman to follow, he stopped following and headed East when Trayvon had headed South. (in case you are not aware, that is two different directions.)
Zimmerman, upon returning from the direction he had came (West), Trayvon attacked him from his rear left. (that is Trayvon confronting Zimmerman) Even the Prosecution's witness Rachel Jeantel confirmed she heard Trayvon confronted Zimmerman first.


He shot him and killed him.
Yes he did, in self defense, which under the law is a justified killing.


And the teenager did not know he was living in a sundown apartment complex.
Irrelevant nonsense.





Wrong as usual.


The white guy is always the “victim,” even when he’s a grown ass man shooting to death an unarmed black kid who is still in his teen years. We know :roll:

Still can't deal with reality I see. Figures.

I hope you never have to experience what Zimmerman did that night, because racist attacker like Trayvon wouldn't give a **** what you had to say as they slammed your head into the ground, and you would soon find out that you would indeed need to shoot them.
 
Thank you for showing you are ignorant of this case and the law.

Wrong. Zimmerman was the victim in this case.


Irrelevant. He is licensed to carry, which is a Constitutionally protected act, and he was heading to the store when he saw a person suspicious enough to call the police.



You clearly know not if what you speak.
When it was suggested that they did not need Zimmerman to follow, he stopped following and headed East when Trayvon had headed South. (in case you are not aware, that is two different directions.)
Zimmerman, upon returning from the direction he had came (West), Trayvon attacked him from his rear left. (that is Trayvon confronting Zimmerman) Even the Prosecution's witness Rachel Jeantel confirmed she heard Trayvon confronted Zimmerman first.


Yes he did, in self defense, which under the law is a justified killing.


Irrelevant nonsense.






Wrong as usual.




Still can't deal with reality I see. Figures.

I hope you never have to experience what Zimmerman did that night, because racist attacker like Trayvon wouldn't give a **** what you had to say as they slammed your head into the ground, and you would soon find out that you would indeed need to shoot them.

I would never assume an innocent black teenager walking is a thief and hunt him down like an animal, which is exactly what George Zimmerman did.
 
I would never assume an innocent black teenager walking is a thief and hunt him down like an animal, which is exactly what George Zimmerman did.

1.There you go lying again. Your characterization did not happen.

2. I spoke to specific portion of the event that night, which had absolutely nothing to do with seeing a suspicious individual who you called the cops on. And even then I still would hope you would not experience the same thing with a black thug attacking you from behind who was then slamming your head into the ground, because you would soon find out that you would indeed need to shoot them.
 
Anyone who fails to realize by now that Martin was just a cheap thug and Zimmerman a good citizen is without hope of understanding......especially after they televised the whole trial and it became so obvious that Martin's friends were not just liars, but feeble-minded liars with no hope of being believed.

Zimmerman was not a “good citizen.” He was an idiot. He compromised our rights sticking his nose where it didn’t belong. That doesn’t make him a criminal. Just stupid.

It is important to take our rights seriously. Especially when it comes to not making excuses for poor shoots or bad decisions that put someone in a position to kill a kid.
 
I would never assume an innocent black teenager walking is a thief and hunt him down like an animal, which is exactly what George Zimmerman did.

From the testimony he was looking into windows and stuff in an area that had experienced break ins.

I bet you think Michael Brown was innocent too? Lol.
 
Thank you for showing you are ignorant of this case and the law.

Wrong. Zimmerman was the victim in this case.

Let me get this right. Zimmerman was having a fight with his wife, and he could have beaten his wife again but noticed this African American teenage male walking to his apartment. Zimmerman called 911 and was repeated by 911 to walk back to his apartment. He refused the order from 911. He confronted him with his gun and shot him dead. Zimmerman wanted to play god that night. Under your justice, I could walk right behind you during the middle of the night -- and shoot you in the back of your head. Under your justice, I can kill you. Under your logic, you are giving me that right to kill you. It is really bad logic when you are confirming your life is not worth anything.
 
Let me get this right. Zimmerman was having a fight with his wife, and he could have beaten his wife again
iLOL No. Wow. Like I said; Ignorant of this case.


but noticed this African American teenage male walking to his apartment.
iLOL No.
Saw a person walking in the rain taking his time and looking into other's homes. One can interpret that as casing. But to Zimmerman's credit he only said it looked suspicious.


and was repeated by 911 to walk back to his apartment. He refused the order from 911.
He confronted him with his gun and shot him dead. Zimmerman wanted to play god that night.
Like I said; Ignorant.
Nothing you said in the above quote is true.
You really should have read the OP. It would have given you a clue, just as the post you are responding to should have. So it is clear you do not pay attention to information provided in the thread.

No one told Zimmerman to walk back to his apartment, nor could a call taker tell anyone to do that. A call take has no authority. Nor did Zimmerman refuse anything.
Zimmerman was in his truck when he spotted and continued to observe the suspicious person.
Trayvon took off running and went South between the Apartment buildings.
Zimmerman got out of his truck and began to follow him. The call taker asked if he was following and Zimmerman answered in the affirmative. The call taker then told him they did not need him to do that. (That is a suggestion, not an order)
Zimmerman, to his credit, did indeed follow the suggestion and stopped following. He went East when Trayvon had gone South.
Zimmerman passed by the area and Trayvon was nowhere to be seen. He only came out after Zimmerman was returning through the area and came from Zimmerman's left rear. Not only is that leaving the safety of your position to confront/attack but suggests that he laid in wait. That is Trayvon confronting, not Zimmerman.
And as you were also already told; Even the Prosecution's witness Rachel Jeantel confirmed she heard Trayvon confront Zimmerman first. .


Under your justice, I could walk right behind you during the middle of the night -- and shoot you in the back of your head. Under your justice, I can kill you. Under your logic, you are giving me that right to kill you. It is really bad logic when you are confirming your life is not worth anything.
Besides being wrong, tha twas a pretty stupid thing to say.
 
My opinion has not changed.

Although I fully accept the verdict and can see my way to a self defense factor...………

I shed no tears for Zimmerman's hardship. He followed a kid around after dark and acted surprised that someone would take issue with it.
 
iLOL No. Wow. Like I said; Ignorant of this case.


iLOL No.
Saw a person walking in the rain taking his time and looking into other's homes. One can interpret that as casing. But to Zimmerman's credit he only said it looked suspicious.


Like I said; Ignorant.
Nothing you said in the above quote is true.
You really should have read the OP. It would have given you a clue, just as the post you are responding to should have. So it is clear you do not pay attention to information provided in the thread.

No one told Zimmerman to walk back to his apartment, nor could a call taker tell anyone to do that. A call take has no authority. Nor did Zimmerman refuse anything.
Zimmerman was in his truck when he spotted and continued to observe the suspicious person.
Trayvon took off running and went South between the Apartment buildings.
Zimmerman got out of his truck and began to follow him. The call taker asked if he was following and Zimmerman answered in the affirmative. The call taker then told him they did not need him to do that. (That is a suggestion, not an order)
Zimmerman, to his credit, did indeed follow the suggestion and stopped following. He went East when Trayvon had gone South.
Zimmerman passed by the area and Trayvon was nowhere to be seen. He only came out after Zimmerman was returning through the area and came from Zimmerman's left rear. Not only is that leaving the safety of your position to confront/attack but suggests that he laid in wait. That is Trayvon confronting, not Zimmerman.
And as you were also already told; Even the Prosecution's witness Rachel Jeantel confirmed she heard Trayvon confront Zimmerman first. .


Besides being wrong, tha twas a pretty stupid thing to say.

Your straw man argument. The only person that knows what happened, is Zimmerman himself. Only person that can refute Zimmerman is in the grave. Zimmerman has been arrested a number of times. We know Zimmerman has used violence against his ex-wife, his ex-girlfriend. Even the NRA has left him, and other gun rights organizations too. Nobody is going to pay him to be at a gun show. Nobody wants him to give an endorsement for there guns. Nobody wants Zimmerman in ads for stand your ground laws in other states. There are a number of right-wing publishing companies, and nobody wants to publish a book from Zimmerman.
 
Your straw man argument. The only person that knows what happened, is Zimmerman himself. Only person that can refute Zimmerman is in the grave.
That is a stupid reply.

What Zimmerman say happened is consistent with what the other witnesses heard and saw.

Furthermore you should apologize for getting the whole case wrong.


Zimmerman has been arrested a number of times. We know Zimmerman has used violence against his ex-wife, his ex-girlfriend.
iLOL No. You do not know any such thing.
Those claims and arrests? Retracted claims so the arrests mean absolutely nothing.
You sure know a whole lot about nothing.


Even the NRA has left him, and other gun rights organizations too. Nobody is going to pay him to be at a gun show. Nobody wants him to give an endorsement for there guns. Nobody wants Zimmerman in ads for stand your ground laws in other states. There are a number of right-wing publishing companies, and nobody wants to publish a book from Zimmerman.
iLOl Your take on these things has not a damn thing to do with your ignorance of the case at hand. Stop deflecting.
 
More Good Citizen George:

https://whotv.com/2018/05/24/george-zimmerman-to-court-i-have-no-job-no-assets-and-owe-2-5-million/



More like deadbeat George.

:lamo


Yeah, I know. White guy ---> good citizen. :roll:



I thought Zimmerman was Hispanic???

From GZ Wiki:


Zimmerman identifies as Hispanic on voter registration forms



From Psychology today......???? wth???

George Zimmerman has been described as white, a white Hispanic, and mixed race.
 
iLOl Your take on these things has not a damn thing to do with your ignorance of the case at hand. Stop deflecting.

When I see Zimmerman, I just see a little boy acting out as a 13 year old. He is a short man and he was a short boy going to grade school. He needs a gun because any conflict he wants to start -- he has a gun to settle any dispute. Has anyone asked, why go after a teenager then a full grown man -- because the teenager is as short as he is. Look, when I was born I was already two feet tall at birth, and stopped growing when I turn 14 at 6'3". I was the tallest kid in my class, and taller then anyone in the class ahead of me and behind me as well. The second tallest kid in my class was a woman standing at 6'1". I know these Zimmerman kids, they are short and insecure and needs to prove themselves. That is what Zimmerman did when he went after a teenage boy with a gun. A short man needing a gun to prove to himself he was a man by going after a teenager just as tall as himself. If I was walking outside, he would just stayed in his apartment.
 
When I see Zimmerman, I just see a little boy acting out as a 13 year old. He is a short man and he was a short boy going to grade school. He needs a gun because any conflict he wants to start -- he has a gun to settle any dispute. Has anyone asked, why go after a teenager then a full grown man -- because the teenager is as short as he is. Look, when I was born I was already two feet tall at birth, and stopped growing when I turn 14 at 6'3". I was the tallest kid in my class, and taller then anyone in the class ahead of me and behind me as well. The second tallest kid in my class was a woman standing at 6'1". I know these Zimmerman kids, they are short and insecure and needs to prove themselves. That is what Zimmerman did when he went after a teenage boy with a gun. A short man needing a gun to prove to himself he was a man by going after a teenager just as tall as himself. If I was walking outside, he would just stayed in his apartment.
Without the gun, Zim would never have left the safety of his SUV.
 
Without the gun, Zim would never have left the safety of his SUV.

Well then, your agreeing with me. If Zimmerman was a tall as me, he would not feel so insecure as a short male needing a gun.
 
When I see Zimmerman, I just see a little boy acting out as a 13 year old. He is a short man and he was a short boy going to grade school. He needs a gun because any conflict he wants to start -- he has a gun to settle any dispute. Has anyone asked, why go after a teenager then a full grown man -- because the teenager is as short as he is. Look, when I was born I was already two feet tall at birth, and stopped growing when I turn 14 at 6'3". I was the tallest kid in my class, and taller then anyone in the class ahead of me and behind me as well. The second tallest kid in my class was a woman standing at 6'1". I know these Zimmerman kids, they are short and insecure and needs to prove themselves. That is what Zimmerman did when he went after a teenage boy with a gun. A short man needing a gun to prove to himself he was a man by going after a teenager just as tall as himself. If I was walking outside, he would just stayed in his apartment.
Your personal opinion of Zimmerman is irrelevant.
Discuss the actual evidence, not the made up bs you spew.
But way to continually deflect from being wrong about the facts of this case. :thumbs:
 
Your personal opinion of Zimmerman is irrelevant.
Discuss the actual evidence, not the made up bs you spew.
But way to continually deflect from being wrong about the facts of this case. :thumbs:

And so is yours being irrelevant too.

There is evidence and there are powers to be. The best answer is to understand were Zimmerman can go with his life. There are many book publishing companies, and, there are conservative and there are progressive. Nobody has asked Zimmerman to write a tell all book dealing with anything about his life. And no writer can find any publishing companies willing to published a book about Zimmerman. The National Rifle Association does not want him as a spokesman about gun rights. There is no conservative group want to be associated with him. We know from his ex wife he is abusive and his ex girlfriend he was abusive to her.

I am given you a test, find any conservative organization willing to pay him to be a spokesperson for their organization. If you cannot find it, it should be clear to you that the conservative movement does not want to be associated with him. Now, there was a few people that supported him, but after getting arrested and the charges just disappeared because they do not want to be associated with him. The conservative movement today under Trump, just looks at Zimmerman as a Mexican that killed a African American.
 
And so is yours being irrelevant too.

There is evidence and there are powers to be. The best answer is to understand were Zimmerman can go with his life. There are many book publishing companies, and, there are conservative and there are progressive. Nobody has asked Zimmerman to write a tell all book dealing with anything about his life. And no writer can find any publishing companies willing to published a book about Zimmerman. The National Rifle Association does not want him as a spokesman about gun rights. There is no conservative group want to be associated with him. We know from his ex wife he is abusive and his ex girlfriend he was abusive to her.

I am given you a test, find any conservative organization willing to pay him to be a spokesperson for their organization. If you cannot find it, it should be clear to you that the conservative movement does not want to be associated with him. Now, there was a few people that supported him, but after getting arrested and the charges just disappeared because they do not want to be associated with him. The conservative movement today under Trump, just looks at Zimmerman as a Mexican that killed a African American.
Stop deflecting from being wrong.

Again.
Discuss the actual evidence, not the made up bs you spew.
 
Stop deflecting from being wrong.

Again.
Discuss the actual evidence, not the made up bs you spew.

You are the only person on this forum that is a supporter of Zimmerman. Have you ever ask that question.
 
You are the only person on this forum that is a supporter of Zimmerman. Have you ever ask that question.

One can support the truth and not support Zimmerman.
 
You are the only person on this forum that is a supporter of Zimmerman.

Besides from being wrong again, you are still deflecting from previously being wrong.

Again.
Discuss the actual evidence, not the made up bs you spew.
 
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