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Wife Shoots Husband, but Gets His Retirement

SDET

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This is another example of female privilege. We all know women are the delicate sex and should never be charged with domestic violence.

Thanks to "no fault" divorce SHE gets to cash out their marriage.

 
SDET said:
This is another example of female privilege. We all know women are the delicate sex and should never be charged with domestic violence.

Thanks to "no fault" divorce SHE gets to cash out their marriage.

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Women are charged with domestic violence... my ex was... about 40% of all DV is caused by women.
 
I'm guessing the context would change everything.

(And no, after a few attempts, I no longer watch posted videos other than in the "what am I listening to?" entertainment thread...)
 
It would only be a case of female privilege if no-fault divorce differentiated between men and women.
 
SDET said:
How would you divorce had gone if you slapped her around instead of vice-versa?
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The system is pretty ****ing sexist...here they actually have a separate criminal offence for male violence against women. Women against women and women against men are lesser offences than men against women even if the outcome is worse.

My ex attacked me with her judo and I called the cops and those ****ers wrote it up saying her literally driving to my house and attacking me because my battery was dead was something I set up...
 
Bodhisattva said:
Women are charged with domestic violence... my ex was... about 40% of all DV is caused by women.
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Questions....why were charges not filed?

From his account, it seems pretty cut and dried.

Are there any links to the actually story - verifiable names, places, etc?

Not that I disbelieve the story...but when I googled the situation....MGTOW and Debate politics were the only hits that came up.

If she really shot her husband...she should be in jail with criminal charges...court case with more elaborate details.

This was brought up on MGTOW 3 years ago....has there been no further activity? Updates would be nice.

https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/wife-shoots-husband-and-gets-half-his-retirement/
 
FWIW.....when I googled I initially saw a 2015 date somewhere.....but apparently not on MGTOW.

I would love a link to a verifiable story...shooting someone and not getting charged sounds off
 
SDET said:
This is another example of female privilege. We all know women are the delicate sex and should never be charged with domestic violence.

Thanks to "no fault" divorce SHE gets to cash out their marriage.

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Care to back up this story? I mean if she shot her husband....there should be some charges. Police tend to treat gunshots pretty damned seriously. What is the hold up? Any doctor that treated him would be obliged to report the GSW.

All we have is a declarative statement that he was shot and she is getting his retirement.

No proof. What was that, a call in show?

I would think by now, if this information were true, there would certainly be more in the news.

You have no issue with me, if it is true with no extenuating circumstances....the situation is beyond screwed up.
 
Is this Al Bundy women hating thread ?

No cite, so I will pull the BS card until a reputable cite in provided.
 
year2late said:
Questions....why were charges not filed?

From his account, it seems pretty cut and dried.

Are there any links to the actually story - verifiable names, places, etc?

Not that I disbelieve the story...but when I googled the situation....MGTOW and Debate politics were the only hits that came up.

If she really shot her husband...she should be in jail with criminal charges...court case with more elaborate details.

This was brought up on MGTOW 3 years ago....has there been no further activity? Updates would be nice.

https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/wife-shoots-husband-and-gets-half-his-retirement/
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I dont know anything about this case... i simply stated some facts about my situation and dom violence in general.
 
Well if she's really 7'8" tall,., she may want to look into the NBA,, Probably more money there..

djl
 
SDET said:
This is another example of female privilege. We all know women are the delicate sex and should never be charged with domestic violence.

Thanks to "no fault" divorce SHE gets to cash out their marriage.

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Did you find any other evidence that this is a true story?

The funny thing - where divorce and child support is concerned....I strongly advocate for a fair system.....but when crap like this gets posted....unverified over the top crap - it STRONGLY diminishes your message. If a NYC officer was shot by his wife...and then got his retirement check to boot...this would be news. But unverified? Seems like more He Man Woman Haters Club crap.
 
SDET said:
This is another example of female privilege. We all know women are the delicate sex and should never be charged with domestic violence.

Thanks to "no fault" divorce SHE gets to cash out their marriage.
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This is a load. I read this thread and watched the video last night. Did some searching on the net, couldn't find verification or negation. This morning I called a cousin's daughter who is an LAPD detective. She knew nothing of the case, never heard of it or anything like it, but told me she would check around, and she would view the video. LA is a large city with a very large police department. It is not unusual for officers to not be aware of all other officer, working or retired, activities.

She called me back about 10 minutes ago. After making some queries among other officers, two from her precinct responded that they knew the caller, recognized his voice from the video. He had been forced into retirement after excessive drinking binges, verified domestic abuse detainments, and some other minor crimes, including attacking a parking meter while drunk, claiming it shot first. Apparently he was arrested for pulling his personal gun on his ex-wife, in her home after breaking in, and she wrestled the gun away from him, then called for police. She had divorced him because of his drinking, abuse, erratic behavior, after 18 years of marriage. He contested the divorce and was represented by PBA attorneys. Same with other detainments. Her pension rights in his pension were vested after 12 years of marriage pursuant to the PBA contract with the city of Los Angeles. The divorce had been finalized more than 6 months before this purported incident. She already had an order of protection against him, renewed less than a month previous. He had been threatening her since the divorce. He faced charges after the event, but was released in his own recognizance, and later given a conditional discharge, provided he did't violate the order of protection for the next year.

He has since had other police problems while drinking, and is currently in a PBA run rehabilitation program for retired police officers with substance abuse problems. They said he's a good guy with a quality record on the force, except when drinking during his latter years, and a bit out of touch with reality during and after drinking binges.

No she didn't cash out their marriage. California marital law demands equal distribution of assets when any marriage dissolves, unless distribution is modified by prior mutual agreement with separate representation by attorneys before signing or the divorce decree. Also excluded are inherited assets attained prior to the marriage, unless otherwise agreed upon or a primary residence for the two and their issue (children). Then the wife, if the husband inherited the residence, may remain in possession until the children reach age 18. He maintains responsibility for maintenance.

Apparently the real scenario doesn't fit the talk show host's agenda, nor yours. And I will take the word of the two officers who identified his voice. You have no other substantiation, and don't even bother claiming the two officers are mistaken.

Yes, women are perpetrators of domestic violence. I won't bicker about percentages or reasons why. This was not one of those incidents as claimed.

Buh bye.
 
OldFatGuy said:
This is a load. I read this thread and watched the video last night. Did some searching on the net, couldn't find verification or negation. This morning I called a cousin's daughter who is an LAPD detective. She knew nothing of the case, never heard of it or anything like it, but told me she would check around, and she would view the video. LA is a large city with a very large police department. It is not unusual for officers to not be aware of all other officer, working or retired, activities.

She called me back about 10 minutes ago. After making some queries among other officers, two from her precinct responded that they knew the caller, recognized his voice from the video. He had been forced into retirement after excessive drinking binges, verified domestic abuse detainments, and some other minor crimes, including attacking a parking meter while drunk, claiming it shot first. Apparently he was arrested for pulling his personal gun on his ex-wife, in her home after breaking in, and she wrestled the gun away from him, then called for police. She had divorced him because of his drinking, abuse, erratic behavior, after 18 years of marriage. He contested the divorce and was represented by PBA attorneys. Same with other detainments. Her pension rights in his pension were vested after 12 years of marriage pursuant to the PBA contract with the city of Los Angeles. The divorce had been finalized more than 6 months before this purported incident. She already had an order of protection against him, renewed less than a month previous. He had been threatening her since the divorce. He faced charges after the event, but was released in his own recognizance, and later given a conditional discharge, provided he did't violate the order of protection for the next year.

He has since had other police problems while drinking, and is currently in a PBA run rehabilitation program for retired police officers with substance abuse problems. They said he's a good guy with a quality record on the force, except when drinking during his latter years, and a bit out of touch with reality during and after drinking binges.

No she didn't cash out their marriage. California marital law demands equal distribution of assets when any marriage dissolves, unless distribution is modified by prior mutual agreement with separate representation by attorneys before signing or the divorce decree. Also excluded are inherited assets attained prior to the marriage, unless otherwise agreed upon or a primary residence for the two and their issue (children). Then the wife, if the husband inherited the residence, may remain in possession until the children reach age 18. He maintains responsibility for maintenance.

Apparently the real scenario doesn't fit the talk show host's agenda, nor yours. And I will take the word of the two officers who identified his voice. You have no other substantiation, and don't even bother claiming the two officers are mistaken.

Yes, women are perpetrators of domestic violence. I won't bicker about percentages or reasons why. This was not one of those incidents as claimed.

Buh bye.
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Even this is not verified, but the scenario seems a hell of a lot more plausible.

I think the folks in the He Man Woman Hater's Club (MGTOW) marginalize themselves by not calling this guy out on his crap.


I have tried to get direct responses from the OP and really just get dance arounds.


When folks get married and an agreement is made for one spouse not to work -homemaker to raising children - the person staying behind loses opportunity for further education and career advancement. In a lengthy marriage, probably would never catch up - or even come close. I have asked about division of property and no direct response. It should be an easy one. Very telling.


I do agree where spousal support is concerned, there should be consideration for change in employment status - and it should not be a difficult process.


I am curious if the OP acknowledges the likely fallacy of the video he posted.
 
year2late said:
Even this is not verified, but the scenario seems a hell of a lot more plausible.

I think the folks in the He Man Woman Hater's Club (MGTOW) marginalize themselves by not calling this guy out on his crap.


I have tried to get direct responses from the OP and really just get dance arounds.


When folks get married and an agreement is made for one spouse not to work -homemaker to raising children - the person staying behind loses opportunity for further education and career advancement. In a lengthy marriage, probably would never catch up - or even come close. I have asked about division of property and no direct response. It should be an easy one. Very telling.


I do agree where spousal support is concerned, there should be consideration for change in employment status - and it should not be a difficult process.


I am curious if the OP acknowledges the likely fallacy of the video he posted.
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I didn't know it was a club. :)

He's not an adept dancer.

In today's world, I don't believe that agreement is what you make it out to be. The need for two salary households has altered that space. I do know my wife was more formally educated than myself, and I hold a couple of post graduate degrees. It required more deliberate time management and help from extended family, with which we were fortunate. I wouldn't have surrendered my child rearing participation in even the most menial aspects. I do agree that asset fairness in distribution should a marriage dissolve for any reason should be equally equitable, and today, with many women earning more than men, that can go both ways.

I am not claiming the version my cousin's daughter gave me is verifiable which is why I stated "I will take the word of the two officers who identified his voice." If they had painted a more deleterious image of the guy, I might not have been so easily convinced.

Don't count on anything but more rationalization from the OP. His views of women are based on his own disappointments and personal limitations. I went into my first marriage with all intentions to rule. Two days later, I accepted reality. :) We remained married until she passed, relatively happy, whatever that means, but definitely satisfied with each other and more loving than the first day. The mutual ability to compromise was more valuable then head butting encounters. Tho we had our moments.

"You will not buy that farm!"
"I will buy that farm!"
"Not!"
"Yes!"
Repeat and rinse, repeat again for weeks. Leading to:

"Okay, but I'm in charge of decorating and the gardens." The kids and grandkids still love it there when on vacations and weekends, it was where we had our greatest pleasures as a family. Each of my children had their weddings at the farm. She wasn't in charge of decorating and the gardens, she was in charge of everything. I was only the hired hand. One win wasn't so bad. And she never argued my taste in beer, wine and other alcoholic beverages, but she made better cocktails and sangrias. One of the commonalities with my new wife. They never looked alike, but they both carried and carry themselves with the same self respect.
 
OldFatGuy said:
I didn't know it was a club. :)

He's not an adept dancer.

In today's world, I don't believe that agreement is what you make it out to be. The need for two salary households has altered that space. I do know my wife was more formally educated than myself, and I hold a couple of post graduate degrees. It required more deliberate time management and help from extended family, with which we were fortunate. I wouldn't have surrendered my child rearing participation in even the most menial aspects. I do agree that asset fairness in distribution should a marriage dissolve for any reason should be equally equitable, and today, with many women earning more than men, that can go both ways.

I am not claiming the version my cousin's daughter gave me is verifiable which is why I stated "I will take the word of the two officers who identified his voice." If they had painted a more deleterious image of the guy, I might not have been so easily convinced.

Don't count on anything but more rationalization from the OP. His views of women are based on his own disappointments and personal limitations. I went into my first marriage with all intentions to rule. Two days later, I accepted reality. :) We remained married until she passed, relatively happy, whatever that means, but definitely satisfied with each other and more loving than the first day. The mutual ability to compromise was more valuable then head butting encounters. Tho we had our moments.

"You will not buy that farm!"
"I will buy that farm!"
"Not!"
"Yes!"
Repeat and rinse, repeat again for weeks. Leading to:

"Okay, but I'm in charge of decorating and the gardens." The kids and grandkids still love it there when on vacations and weekends, it was where we had our greatest pleasures as a family. Each of my children had their weddings at the farm. She wasn't in charge of decorating and the gardens, she was in charge of everything. I was only the hired hand. One win wasn't so bad. And she never argued my taste in beer, wine and other alcoholic beverages, but she made better cocktails and sangrias. One of the commonalities with my new wife. They never looked alike, but they both carried and carry themselves with the same self respect.
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Unfortunately, there are men out there who think not totally ruling the house means they are *****whipped. That is sad.

Total control as a single person is tough for many to give up. Men and women who cannot realize the art of compromise early in a relationship are bound to make either themselves or others miserable.:lamo

I find a website like MGTOW does itself a disservice by allowing these outrageous stories to stand on their merits. I am sure our OP is not the only one reposting it as true.

It frankly diminished the REAL cases of spousal abuse by men and women.
 
year2late said:
Unfortunately, there are men out there who think not totally ruling the house means they are *****whipped. That is sad.

Total control as a single person is tough for many to give up. Men and women who cannot realize the art of compromise early in a relationship are bound to make either themselves or others miserable.:lamo

I find a website like MGTOW does itself a disservice by allowing these outrageous stories to stand on their merits. I am sure our OP is not the only one reposting it as true.

It frankly diminished the REAL cases of spousal abuse by men and women.
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They fail to understand, a bit of being *****whipped can be fun. It isn't a threat to masculinity except for those who are insecure beforehand. When either of my wives mentioned "jewelry" with a raised eyebrow, I always bought the best I could afford. The return on investment was delicious. When my first wife, in exasperation said, "get the kids out of the house before I kill them," we had great fun. And often enough I took them without a word from her. I learned don't buy new tools in anticipation of find a use for them, hint at wanted gifts. Then they'd arrive with smiles.

There will always be guys who need sites like MGTOW, you already know why.
 
OldFatGuy said:
This is a load. I read this thread and watched the video last night. Did some searching on the net, couldn't find verification or negation. This morning I called a cousin's daughter who is an LAPD detective. She knew nothing of the case, never heard of it or anything like it, but told me she would check around, and she would view the video. LA is a large city with a very large police department. It is not unusual for officers to not be aware of all other officer, working or retired, activities.

She called me back about 10 minutes ago. After making some queries among other officers, two from her precinct responded that they knew the caller, recognized his voice from the video. He had been forced into retirement after excessive drinking binges, verified domestic abuse detainments, and some other minor crimes, including attacking a parking meter while drunk, claiming it shot first. Apparently he was arrested for pulling his personal gun on his ex-wife, in her home after breaking in, and she wrestled the gun away from him, then called for police. She had divorced him because of his drinking, abuse, erratic behavior, after 18 years of marriage. He contested the divorce and was represented by PBA attorneys. Same with other detainments. Her pension rights in his pension were vested after 12 years of marriage pursuant to the PBA contract with the city of Los Angeles. The divorce had been finalized more than 6 months before this purported incident. She already had an order of protection against him, renewed less than a month previous. He had been threatening her since the divorce. He faced charges after the event, but was released in his own recognizance, and later given a conditional discharge, provided he did't violate the order of protection for the next year.

He has since had other police problems while drinking, and is currently in a PBA run rehabilitation program for retired police officers with substance abuse problems. They said he's a good guy with a quality record on the force, except when drinking during his latter years, and a bit out of touch with reality during and after drinking binges.

No she didn't cash out their marriage. California marital law demands equal distribution of assets when any marriage dissolves, unless distribution is modified by prior mutual agreement with separate representation by attorneys before signing or the divorce decree. Also excluded are inherited assets attained prior to the marriage, unless otherwise agreed upon or a primary residence for the two and their issue (children). Then the wife, if the husband inherited the residence, may remain in possession until the children reach age 18. He maintains responsibility for maintenance.

Apparently the real scenario doesn't fit the talk show host's agenda, nor yours. And I will take the word of the two officers who identified his voice. You have no other substantiation, and don't even bother claiming the two officers are mistaken.

Yes, women are perpetrators of domestic violence. I won't bicker about percentages or reasons why. This was not one of those incidents as claimed.

Buh bye.
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I see you put a lot of effort in your post. I'm glad I posted it and got another perspective.
 
year2late said:
Even this is not verified, but the scenario seems a hell of a lot more plausible.

I think the folks in the He Man Woman Hater's Club (MGTOW) marginalize themselves by not calling this guy out on his crap.


I have tried to get direct responses from the OP and really just get dance arounds.


When folks get married and an agreement is made for one spouse not to work -homemaker to raising children - the person staying behind loses opportunity for further education and career advancement. In a lengthy marriage, probably would never catch up - or even come close. I have asked about division of property and no direct response. It should be an easy one. Very telling.


I do agree where spousal support is concerned, there should be consideration for change in employment status - and it should not be a difficult process.


I am curious if the OP acknowledges the likely fallacy of the video he posted.
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It appears erroneous. Had I not posted it here, I wouldn't have known.
 
If you persist in reading threads posted by incels, you're going to keep getting loads of nonsense like this day in and day out.
Incel rage is a real actual thing.
I actually wonder if my even replying to an incel thread might be a form of enabling on my part.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
If you persist in reading threads posted by incels, you're going to keep getting loads of nonsense like this day in and day out.
Incel rage is a real actual thing.
I actually wonder if my even replying to an incel thread might be a form of enabling on my part.
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Your posts might be of higher quality if you thought before posting. MGTOW is men that got ripped off. Incels are a different and much rarer animal. I don't fault men for being careful to hold on to their cash.
 
SDET said:
It appears erroneous. Had I not posted it here, I wouldn't have known.
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The question is why not?
There where obvious tells and obvious clues that it was BS!
 
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