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Judge orders L.A. Times to alter story about Glendale cop, sparking protest from newspaper

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Judge orders L.A. Times to alter story about Glendale cop, sparking protest from newspaper

A federal judge on Saturday ordered the Los Angeles Times to remove information from an article that described a plea agreement between prosecutors and a Glendale police detective accused of working with the Mexican Mafia, a move the newspaper decried as highly unusual and unconstitutional.
The agreement was supposed to have been filed under seal, but it was mistakenly made available on PACER, a public online database for federal court documents. ...
“Typically, courts take into account if information was already published. Where it is no longer secret, the point of the restraining order is mooted,” Sager said. “To order a publication to claw it back doesn’t even serve the interest that may be intended.”


Judge Walter did not explain in his order the legal justification for demanding that The Times withdraw the article.


The detective, John Saro Balian, pleaded guilty on July 12 to three counts: lying to federal investigators about his links to organized crime, accepting a bribe and obstructing justice by tipping off a top criminal target about an upcoming federal raid ...
in the public domain
and without explanation
ordered by the court to be censored

why is that court order found appropriate?
 
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Judge orders L.A. Times to alter story about Glendale cop, sparking protest from newspaper


in the public domain
and without explanation
ordered by the court to be censored

why is that court order found appropriate?

Obviously the printed editions are out there, and apart from destroying any extra copies lying around there's not much to be done.

Presumably this was more about their online version of the article, which would have a longer shelf life anyhow.

As far as why, it would either be to protect the accused, or witnesses\informants. Something as simple as a date that information was revealed could expose an informant or put lives at risk.

If you're a detective that is using informants, you're not going to get much cooperation if the informants thinks you're likely to expose them.
 
Interesting. I wonder how many times this happens, when we don't hear about it. Talk about over-reach.
This sounds just like the "D" letters issued against the Press in the UK, most recently regarding all things Skripal. Censorship is censorship and the trend is threatening. Gov'ts are controlling MSM in too many ways and witrh too little public oversight./
 
Nope, you better realize that for future reference, just saying.

I'm no expert on the internet, but I am personally aware of maybe a dozen different things once posted on the internet and subsequently no longer able to be seen or read there.

So the earlier post was either a joke, or a false statement based upon some measure of ignorance.
 
I'm no expert on the internet, but I am personally aware of maybe a dozen different things once posted on the internet and subsequently no longer able to be seen or read there.

So the earlier post was either a joke, or a false statement based upon some measure of ignorance.

The vast majority of stuff posted is saved, copied and duplicated, meaning it still exists somewhere, just as everything that goes on to you phone or computer is still there, even after being deleted, it just becomes available for use but until it is used it us still there. Trust me, never post anything you do not want to be available to others.
 
The vast majority of stuff posted is saved, copied and duplicated, meaning it still exists somewhere, just as everything that goes on to you phone or computer is still there, even after being deleted, it just becomes available for use but until it is used it us still there. Trust me, never post anything you do not want to be available to others.

You may be correct. I am no expert on the internet at all, though I do spend time on it, often lurking.

The interesting part is that of the stories I have experience with, that I can no longer find going back maybe 10 years, the missing stories were ones that contradicted one mainstream narrative or another. In short, the truth and certain facts are no longer able to be viewed, at least for a non-expert like myself.
 
This sounds just like the "D" letters issued against the Press in the UK, most recently regarding all things Skripal. Censorship is censorship and the trend is threatening. Gov'ts are controlling MSM in too many ways and witrh too little public oversight./

Show us one.
 
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