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How is this a crime?

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If I had to guess, the note was left by a previous guest knowing eventually a black person would be the next guest.

An African-American millionaire and his Manhattan consultant son were victims of a July 4th hate crime in their hotel room during a Florida vacation.

A racist creep apparently snuck into Frank and Michael Davis’ room at the upscale Art Ovation Hotel in Sarasota and left a 2-by-5 post-it note reading, “You’re a N—-R.”
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African-American family finds racist note in hotel room, businessman says | Fox News
 
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SDET said:
If I had to guess, the note was left by a previous guess knowing eventually a black person would be the next guest.




African-American family finds racist note in hotel room, businessman says | Fox News
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No, that does not sound plausible.
Further reading of the article states.
After returning to their sixth-floor room from breakfast, the Davises found the sickening message placed on a globe-shaped bedside lamp.
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Kind of suggests the note was not there when the man first got the room. But was placed after he left the room for breakfast.

An the crime at the very least would be trespass.
 
SDET said:
If I had to guess, the note was left by a previous guest knowing eventually a black person would be the next guest.
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Not likely, since hotel staff clean rooms between guests. This includes the sink, tub, beds, bedside tables, etc.

If this isn't a fake event, then the most likely suspect would be a member of the hotel cleaning staff, or management during an inspection.

Pretty foolish if so, because hotel staff are assigned rooms each shift, and it would be pretty easy to determine who cleaned the room between this guest and the last.

Meanwhile, as pointed out in a preceding post...

soylentgreen said:
No, that does not sound plausible. Further reading of the article states.

Kind of suggests the note was not there when the man first got the room. But was placed after he left the room for breakfast.

An the crime at the very least would be trespass.
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...it is highly unlikely to be another guest; and if staff it would be easy to identify the staff on duty that day cleaning that particular room.
 
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I have to wonder about this. It's not like people in the US are not used to seeing black guests at hotels, even upscale ones. So, not sure I'm buying this one at face value yet.
 
SDET said:
If I had to guess, the note was left by a previous guest knowing eventually a black person would be the next guest.

African-American family finds racist note in hotel room, businessman says | Fox News
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How is that a crime? Seriously?

From the article:
...snuck into Frank and Michael Davis’ [hotel] room...and left a 2-by-5 post-it note reading, “You’re a N—-R.”
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Why is it relevant to the story to mention that the hotel guest is a millionaire?

Why is it relevant to the story to mention what the man's son does for a living and where the son works?
 
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Xelor said:
How is that a crime? Seriously?

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Why is it relevant to the story to mention that the hotel guest is a millionaire?

Why is it relevant to the story to mention what the man's son does for a living and where the son works?
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Racists can do w/e they want!!!!! Also let's not trust black people. This story is fake news... Doesn't realize it's Foxnews dot freakin com.
 
Barnacle said:
Definitely something fishy about that story ...
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Absolutely, very fishy.

My hypothesis is that hotel maid A had been sleeping with hotel ...what do you call a man who cleans rooms? Man? OK, hotel man A. Hotel maid A dumped hotel man A, and started sleeping with hotel man B. Hotel maid A was assigned to clean the room. Hotel man A used his key to enter the room and leave the note in order to get back at his former lover for rejecting him by getting her in trouble with the management.

No way to prove that, of course, but it makes more sense than that some racist yahoo broke into the room and left the anonymous note.
 
First of all, there seems to be no evidence of any crime beyond a note claimed to have been placed by someone else and assumed to have been directed at the businessman. There have been several racist notes self-placed by someone wanting to become a 'proven' victim of racism (and thus due reparations from 'society'?).

For it to be considered a crime it would be based on solid (forensic?) evidence that it was not planted to gain media attention/public sympathy. In other words, some evidence other than an assumption by the alleged victim (and only witness?) that someone made unauthorized entry to that room or that someone with authorized access to that room (hotel staff or a contractor) is connected to that note.
 
It is an upscale hotel.
It is likely to have hallway cameras as they do here in this image.

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I find it hard to believe that the perp used the proper form of "You're".
 
Dittohead not! said:
Absolutely, very fishy.

My hypothesis is that hotel maid A had been sleeping with hotel ...what do you call a man who cleans rooms? Man? OK, hotel man A. Hotel maid A dumped hotel man A, and started sleeping with hotel man B. Hotel maid A was assigned to clean the room. Hotel man A used his key to enter the room and leave the note in order to get back at his former lover for rejecting him by getting her in trouble with the management.

No way to prove that, of course, but it makes more sense than that some racist yahoo broke into the room and left the anonymous note.
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Red:
Seriously?

One calls him "housekeeping staff" or "housekeeper" or "room attendant" or "room cleaner," just as one would call a female member who cleans hotel rooms. Of course, to have the presence of mind to call him that, one'd have to have mentally moved into the 21st century and disabused oneself of the gender stereotypes associated with various jobs. If, however, one insists on retaining gender specific terms, "footman," "steward," or "man servant" will do just fine. Depending on what one wants the guy to do, one might use the term "valet," although most folks who'd avail themselves of a valet's services would bring their own rather than rely on their host to provide one. If one seeks the man in charge of the housekeeping staff, "housekeeping manager" or "butler" will do.
 
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Red:
Seriously?

One calls him "housekeeping staff" or "housekeeper" or "room attendant" or "room cleaner," just as one would call a female member who cleans hotel rooms. Of course, to have the presence of mind to call him that, one'd have to have mentally moved into the 21st century and disabused oneself of the gender stereotypes associated with various jobs. If, however, one insists on retaining gender specific terms, "footman" or "man servant" will do just fine. Depending on what one wants the guy to do, one might use the term "valet," although most folks who'd avail themselves of a valet's services would bring their own rather than rely on their host to provide one. If one seeks the man in charge of the housekeeping staff, "housekeeping manager" or "butler" will do.
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Well excuuuse me. How un PC of me to use the term "hotel maid."
 
Xelor said:
There's nothing wrong with that term if one specifically means a female. PC hasn't anything to do with it.
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Since my hypothetical lovers weren't gay, what other conclusion could there be? Of course she was a female, and the housekeepers or whatever were male.
 
Are there no security cameras in the hall?

I have two guesses, either the housekeeper, or -- more likely -- the son. Kids do stupid things and that's just a little too suspicious.
 
SDET said:
If I had to guess, the note was left by a previous guest knowing eventually a black person would be the next guest.




African-American family finds racist note in hotel room, businessman says | Fox News
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If the hotel staff did this, it's a federal violation of the Civil Rights Act and maybe other federal laws. If someone not associated with the hotel did this then its probably just trespassing and maybe malicious mischief if the state has such a law, but no federal crime. If the two guys staying in the room staged it, then it's making a false police report at a minimum - and dumb.
 
Beaudreaux said:
If the hotel staff did this, it's a federal violation of the Civil Rights Act and maybe other federal laws. If someone not associated with the hotel did this then its probably just trespassing and maybe malicious mischief if the state has such a law, but no federal crime. If the two guys staying in the room staged it, then it's making a false police report at a minimum - and dumb.
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There is another distinct possibility - the son placed the note (unknown to the father) and the father reported finding it. That would make it not a crime at all.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
There is another distinct possibility - the son placed the note (unknown by the father) and the father reported finding it. That would make it not a crime at all.
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Very true. However, I would have to believe that a DA trying to get re-elected may want to try to find something to charge the guy with, or completely ignore it, depending on the local political demographics. So it could go either way.
 
Beaudreaux said:
Very true. However, I would have to believe that a DA trying to get re-elected may want to try to find something to charge the guy with, or completely ignore it, depending on the local political demographics. So it could go either way.
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Having the matter remain an unsolved mystery (cold case?) let's everyone off the hook. The guests can still successfully claim to be victims of racism even with an unknown perp.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Having the matter remain an unsolved mystery (cold case?) let's everyone off the hook. The guests can still successfully claim to be victims of racism even with an unknown perp.
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Victimhood is a comfortable place for some.
 
Beaudreaux said:
Victimhood is a comfortable place for some.
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Yep and, if given sufficient publicity, it can be quite profitable - beats the hell out of selling bottled water on the sidewalk.
 
Dittohead not! said:
...what do you call a man who cleans rooms? Man? ...

Xelor said:
Red:
Seriously?

One calls him "housekeeping staff" or "housekeeper" or "room attendant" or "room cleaner," just as one would call a female member who cleans hotel rooms. Of course, to have the presence of mind to call him that, one'd have to have mentally moved into the 21st century and disabused oneself of the gender stereotypes associated with various jobs. If, however, one insists on retaining gender specific terms, "footman," "steward," or "man servant" will do just fine. Depending on what one wants the guy to do, one might use the term "valet," although most folks who'd avail themselves of a valet's services would bring their own rather than rely on their host to provide one. If one seeks the man in charge of the housekeeping staff, "housekeeping manager" or "butler" will do.

Xelor said:
There's nothing wrong with that term if one specifically means a female. PC hasn't anything to do with it.

Dittohead not! said:
Since my hypothetical lovers weren't gay, what other conclusion could there be? Of course she was a female, and the housekeepers or whatever were male.
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You asked a question. I answered it. Did you want something other than an answer?

I don't even understand what you're talking about in your most recent comment above...What has your sexuality or anyone else's to do with what one calls a man who cleans rooms?
 
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