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How important is it to respect the police?

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How important is it to respect the police, meaning following orders and treating them with decency? I often see videos of people allegedly mistreated by the police and it often starts with the citizen being rude and/or refusing to follow orders. And then I see a huge outcry of people defending them. Should the police just leave the citizen alone if he/she fails to comply?

Btw, I think it's extremely important for the police to respect citizens.
 
How important is it to respect the police, meaning following orders and treating them with decency? I often see videos of people allegedly mistreated by the police and it often starts with the citizen being rude and/or refusing to follow orders. And then I see a huge outcry of people defending them. Should the police just leave the citizen alone if he/she fails to comply?

Btw, I think it's extremely important for the police to respect citizens.

I agree that police should respect citizens. Citizens should also respect police.
You didn't state if you believe citizens should respect the police. Why?


There are avenues to follow if a LEO mistreats a citizen. imo, why escalate a situation. In the short run the citizen will loose.

To answer your last question. No, the LEO should not just "leave the citizen alone if he/she fails to comply".
 
I agree that police should respect citizens. Citizens should also respect police.
You didn't state if you believe citizens should respect the police. Why?


There are avenues to follow if a LEO mistreats a citizen. imo, why escalate a situation. In the short run the citizen will loose.

To answer your last question. No, the LEO should not just "leave the citizen alone if he/she fails to comply".

I believe citizens should definitely respect the police as well. I think disrespect on either side can elevate stress levels dramatically, as there's a risk of physical harm by both sides, risk of discipline/job loss if the cop does the wrong thing, and risk of being detained against your will and financial loss by the citizen. Of all of the human interactions we have throughout our lives, I think respect in these interactions is the most urgent.
 
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How important is it to respect the police, meaning following orders and treating them with decency? I often see videos of people allegedly mistreated by the police and it often starts with the citizen being rude and/or refusing to follow orders. And then I see a huge outcry of people defending them. Should the police just leave the citizen alone if he/she fails to comply?

Btw, I think it's extremely important for the police to respect citizens.

Respect them just like you would a rattlesnake...

Don't do something to get their attention..
give them a wide berth
Don't do anything stupid around them. ( aka Don't piss them off )
If you do piss one off.. Best just freeze and listen carefully

and you'll be OK

djl
 
How important is it to respect the police, meaning following orders and treating them with decency? I often see videos of people allegedly mistreated by the police and it often starts with the citizen being rude and/or refusing to follow orders. And then I see a huge outcry of people defending them. Should the police just leave the citizen alone if he/she fails to comply?

Btw, I think it's extremely important for the police to respect citizens.

And most importantly, when the Po-po says “Stop, or I will shoot you!” Don’t go reaching for your cell phone. You ain’t got time for a “Uber escape!”
 
How important is it to respect the police, meaning following orders and treating them with decency? I often see videos of people allegedly mistreated by the police and it often starts with the citizen being rude and/or refusing to follow orders. And then I see a huge outcry of people defending them. Should the police just leave the citizen alone if he/she fails to comply?

Btw, I think it's extremely important for the police to respect citizens.

I am always respectful and the only reason is because that is what is best for me... not because the cop deserves it.
 
How important is it to respect the police, meaning following orders and treating them with decency? I often see videos of people allegedly mistreated by the police and it often starts with the citizen being rude and/or refusing to follow orders. And then I see a huge outcry of people defending them. Should the police just leave the citizen alone if he/she fails to comply?

Btw, I think it's extremely important for the police to respect citizens.

Some people's attitude and ego trumps common decency.
 
When the government takes your liberty, it's the police that enforce that. Police should be feared, not respected.
 
How important is it to respect the police, meaning following orders and treating them with decency? I often see videos of people allegedly mistreated by the police and it often starts with the citizen being rude and/or refusing to follow orders. And then I see a huge outcry of people defending them. Should the police just leave the citizen alone if he/she fails to comply?

Btw, I think it's extremely important for the police to respect citizens.

As Louis Brandeis observed in the last century, the law will be respected when it is respectable. The same dynamic applies to those who enforce the law.
 
How important is it to respect the police, meaning following orders and treating them with decency? I often see videos of people allegedly mistreated by the police and it often starts with the citizen being rude and/or refusing to follow orders. And then I see a huge outcry of people defending them. Should the police just leave the citizen alone if he/she fails to comply?

Btw, I think it's extremely important for the police to respect citizens.

Meh. Following orders and being polite is obeisance.
That's a a very qualified "respect".

Real respect is earned, not granted freely.
 
How important is it to respect the police, meaning following orders and treating them with decency? I often see videos of people allegedly mistreated by the police and it often starts with the citizen being rude and/or refusing to follow orders. And then I see a huge outcry of people defending them. Should the police just leave the citizen alone if he/she fails to comply?

Btw, I think it's extremely important for the police to respect citizens.

In each and every encounter you have with the police anywhere, just treat the situation like you would if you just had a hooded cobra raise up on you on a jungle trail.

Diffuse
Diffuse
Diffuse

Don't agitate, and don't provoke.

The cobra on the trail has all the power.
 
How important is it to respect the police, meaning following orders and treating them with decency? I often see videos of people allegedly mistreated by the police and it often starts with the citizen being rude and/or refusing to follow orders. And then I see a huge outcry of people defending them. Should the police just leave the citizen alone if he/she fails to comply?

Btw, I think it's extremely important for the police to respect citizens.

So what? People are rude, cops are rude, does not automatically excuse excessive violence. And the most stupid things I ever hear is police officers who are beating someone around the head to stop resisting. Every person who is hit in the head tries to protect his head from the blows. To demand people to do things that are leaving them incredibly vulnerable to attacks is not really a logical order to give from a police officer. Now if someone is having their arms forced behind their back it is mostly proper to tell people to stop resisting, when however they are already under physical attack from the police it is not a logical order.

Also, if three police officers cannot hold a tiny female under control to put on the handcuffs, they are not fit for purpose. Choking or beating someone around the head is not a proper tactic or tool to have people stop resisting. If someone fears for their life they resist. It is almost an automatic reaction of people when assaulted to resist and save their life.

Choking out suspects, beating them with batons to the legs, being beaten with fists to the head, would you not try and protect yourself from further harm?

From what I have seen from a lot of videos, is that some US police officers have terrible conflict resolution skills and often make cases that could have been solved peacefully into a violent altercation.

Training and other ways of fining people, there is no need to always arrest people and book them for stupid offenses like jay walking, speeding, broken taillight. Because sadly that causes too many people to have to sit in jail for hours or days/months if they cannot afford bail. Just fine people, give them a ticket, no need to sign it and let them leave. If they want to contest the ticket that is possible but that makes the officers life a whole lot easier, keeps police officers on the street instead of going to the station and filling out paperwork for a jaywalker/speeding driver.

A good police officer can decompress a situation in which there is no need for violence, bad officers are unable to do that.

And give people proper commands, have one person give orders, not have one officer shout "don't move or I will ****ing shoot you" while the other one shouts "get out of the car or I will shoot you". That is not a situation that is safe for either officer or the suspect.

Most police officers are pretty decent people, sadly a good number of them are not or else they would not have to be paying out hundreds of thousands to the victims of police brutality or to the family of someone killed by the police.
 
This is an interesting video from the You Tube channel DDE.

He gets pulled over in Beverly Hills and the officer doesn't know the law.

The officer then threatens to take his property from him based on that lack of knowledge so he goes directly to the Beverly Hills Police Department to file a complaint against the office.

This is exactly what should happen every time an officer gets out of line. Document it.

 
How do you respect or trust the police if this is how they react to a non-violent suspect who ran from a drugs bust, who dropped himself in the arresting position with this hands above his head and still gets beaten and kicked by idiotic police officers who were claiming they needed to be that violent because the suspect was combative and resisting. Can one be less resisting when laying face down hands above his head in a surrendering position? Clearly it is hard to be less combative but that did not stop these officers from beating the guy mercilessly. Luckily for him it was caught on video because if it were down to the police officers honesty, he would be sitting in jail for resisting arrest and assaulting police officers.

 
I believe common courtesy and civility should be given to everyone....until they have proven unworthy of it.

Respect, however, is earned....title or duty position does not grant anyone instant respect.
 
How important is it to respect the police, meaning following orders and treating them with decency? I often see videos of people allegedly mistreated by the police and it often starts with the citizen being rude and/or refusing to follow orders. And then I see a huge outcry of people defending them. Should the police just leave the citizen alone if he/she fails to comply?

Btw, I think it's extremely important for the police to respect citizens.

It's very important that citizens comply with the orders of police. Even if you don't believe those orders are legal, the streets are not the place to have that fight, the courtroom is. I support police using the minimum necessary force to safely ensure compliance with their orders.

The issue of being rude to police is an entirely different one. While I certainly don't recommend being rude to police, I also don't support the use of force against people who are doing nothing other than being assholes.
 
How do you respect or trust the police if this is how they react to a non-violent suspect who ran from a drugs bust, who dropped himself in the arresting position with this hands above his head and still gets beaten and kicked by idiotic police officers who were claiming they needed to be that violent because the suspect was combative and resisting. Can one be less resisting when laying face down hands above his head in a surrendering position? Clearly it is hard to be less combative but that did not stop these officers from beating the guy mercilessly. Luckily for him it was caught on video because if it were down to the police officers honesty, he would be sitting in jail for resisting arrest and assaulting police officers.



Because assuming that every cop or even most cops are like that is as bad as assuming that every person of a particular race or who looks a certain way is a criminal or every Muslim is a terrorist. It is wrong. Most police officers (in the US at least) are decent people just trying to do a very hard job. Most are not out to get you, and the vast majority are not out to either beat or shoot anyone.
 
Because assuming that every cop or even most cops are like that is as bad as assuming that every person of a particular race or who looks a certain way is a criminal or every Muslim is a terrorist. It is wrong. Most police officers (in the US at least) are decent people just trying to do a very hard job. Most are not out to get you, and the vast majority are not out to either beat or shoot anyone.

you missed my point, because it is not the officers only who beat them, it is the officers who regularly stand by and do nothing when someone commits police brutality, most forces never condemn or denounce the officers actions and the courts almost never convict these officer and they just keep on being police officers.

And if it happens that much, people get worried and angered at the police as a whole. While most individual officers would never commit police brutality, they suffer under the bad reputation their less honest/respectable officers have given their profession.
 
you missed my point, because it is not the officers only who beat them, it is the officers who regularly stand by and do nothing when someone commits police brutality, most forces never condemn or denounce the officers actions and the courts almost never convict these officer and they just keep on being police officers.

And if it happens that much, people get worried and angered at the police as a whole. While most individual officers would never commit police brutality, they suffer under the bad reputation their less honest/respectable officers have given their profession.

Most officers are not doing either. It is important to properly punish those who are using excessive force and truly beating suspects, especially those who are unarmed. But this is not happening nearly as much as it seems because when it does happen that is made public, but when it doesn't happen, it isn't news, but would take up far more of our time, even if only made public during a confrontation between police and suspect or even innocent person.
 


Is this a valid use of tasering? Now I am not saying was the arrest valid, that is up to a court, but the man surrendered, hands above head, knelt, did all the right things but still he was tased for "pulling away" and then some while he was down on the ground, still handcuffed.

But the video shows no evidence of him pulling away that I could see and then, they had 3 officers around him at all times, he was in cuffs and was not going anywhere nor did he attempt to do anything but still he was tased. I am not satisfied this is a fair use of the taser.
 
Again, not talking about the legality of the arrest, I am sure it is fine. But this is 4 officers to one and all officers but one do not see the need to use serious violence (hitting someone in the head repeatedly is IMHO seriously violent). And I have said it here on this website before, how do you expect someone to not resist if you are beating his head in?

 
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